[VS] Haku and Zabuza(Fastrthnwind) vs Jiraiya(Shikamaru101)

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Location: Grassy Plain w/small lake
Knowledge: Manga Knowledge
Intent: Capture
Distance: 40 meters

Restrictions: none

Shall we begin? :D (You wanna start first or you want me to start?)
 

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No restrictions eh ? O_O This should be interesting to see...
 

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Lmao, fastrthnwind you are a good debater so I'm curious how can you win this xd
 

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LOL Jiraiya stomps. A guy who beat 3 paths of pain, the same paths that were wrecking Konoha should be able to defeat a duo that failed to beat early part 1 Team 7, a small fraction of Konoha's power.

SM Jiraiya stomps low difficulty and base Jiraiya wins low-mid difficulty at most.
 

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Jiraiya wins, this should be interesting
 

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No possible way to counter Jiraiya with this combo, sorry.
 

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Alright then. Haku and Zabuza will be able to capture Jiraiya using a combination of silent killing techniques, powerful water jutsus and near flawless teamwork.


Silent Killing:

Being their primary form of assassination, both Haku and Zabuza are highly skilled in the art of silent killing, which involves locating their opponent through the use of hearing alone and taking them down while they are unable to see themselves. Using this in combination with their Hidden Mist technique makes them some of the most formidable assassins ever mentioned.

Kenjutsu:

As the leader of the previous Seven Swordsman of the Mist, Zabuza's proficiency with blades -most notably the Kubikiribōchō- is also one of the best in the series. His blade, Kubikiribōchō, has the ability to repair itslef with the blood of his fallen enemies so that it will never dull. Jiraiya will need to be cautious when engaging a swordsmaster of Zabuza's degree.



Hidden Mist technique:

One of their trademark jutsus that these two use to capture their opponents is using the famous Hidden Mist technique, which is created to allow them to have an advantage over their foes with their silent killing technique. This jutsu is able to cover a large area with a very thick mist that only allows vision directly in front of the user at an extremely close range. This jutsu will keep Jiraiya on the defensive.

Demonic Ice Mirrors

This jutsu is a very useful teleportation technique that Haku can use to attack Jiraiya either physically at great speed or with senbon to attack his vitals using his vast knowledge of the human anatomy and skill at senbonjutsu. This justu can be used to teleport with one one single mirror, or to create a large dome of mirrors that Haku can teleport between at imperceptible speeds, rendering him physically untouchable while in the dome. This jutsu can be used to keep Jiraiya from using summoning jutsus, effectively negating Jiraiya being able to use SM due to the speed in which it can be created and activated. Using this jutsu in collaboration with the hidden mist jutsu will assure that Jiraiya will not be able respond to any of their attacks on him nor will he be able to use any attacks himself.

Its not everything, but think this is decent enough of an opening. :D

EDIT: I would appreciate it if only me and Shikamaru101 would post on this thread. Also, please note that this is not a stomp thread because the intent of the opponents are to CAPTURE. NOT TO KILL like eveyone thinks in every VS thread.
 
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Also, please note that this is not a stomp thread because the intent of the opponents are to CAPTURE. NOT TO KILL like eveyone thinks in every VS thread.
Jiraiya still stomps due to frog song, toad mouth trap and various other ways for him to capture.
 

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Jiraiya still stomps due to frog song, toad mouth trap and various other ways for him to capture.

Again, please refrain from posting in this thread. This is a debate between me and Shikamaru101, so any opinions or comments about the match will not be appreciated.
 

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IMO J-man has this, but haku and zabuza are being underrated.

@Icelerate

ABC logic is a bad way to debate unless it's to compare a single aspect of a battle. Using it to determine the overall Battle doesn't work

My b for posting, but I just had to point that out. If you want me to delete my post I will do so
 
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Jiraiya should be easily able to capture Zabuza and Haku, which i will now demonstrate by countering all of your techniques.

Countering Silent Killing and Hidden Mist
Jiraiya is very proficient with barrier based techniques, so the Hidden Mist Jutsu will not be of much use or effect against him. Jiraiya would be able to use the Barrier: Canopy Method Formation, which allows him to detect all movements within a wide radius and block attacks from the enemy. With this, Jiraiya would be able to detect Zabuza and Haku if they do try to attack him in the mist, thus proving it useless.

Countering Kenjutsu
Jiraiya would be able to counter Kenjutsu through the fact that Jiraiya is more faster than Zabuza. Jiraiya boasting a speed of 4.5 in the databooks while Zabuza has a speed of 4 does show that Jiraiya should be able to dodge any sword slashes that come his way, and is also reinforced if Jiraiya has Barrier Canopy in effect. Also, Zabuza's blade has not shown any strength feats as Kakashi's kunai was enough to block it so again Jiraiya should have no trouble with that.

Countering Demonic Ice Mirrors
Jiraiya could simply use Needle Jizo to block Haku's senbon which would be more than effective in terms of defence due to the rigid nature that his hair takes upon effect of this jutsu. Again Barrier Canopy jutsu eliminates the risk of a surprise attack.

Offensive Moves
Jiraiya has a number of offensive moves with which he could potentially win the battle with. Firstly, Jiraiya could use he Toad Bind technique to trap one or both enemies in the oesophegus of a toad, which would also restrict movement of the enemy. With this in effect he could potentially finish one enemy and then resume battling the other, where it qould be a simple one on one. Or it could be used on both enemies at the same time.

Jiraiya also has the powerful sage mode, in which if he achieves in the battle, he will most definitely win. One way to acquire the sage mode in the middle of a battle would be to to use the means of infiltration to assist him in this process. Jiraiya could potentially summon a toad that he can hide in, acquire sage mode and then return to the opponents, and then finish them off with Frog Song or countless other jutsu. However, Jiraiya was shown able to fend off Animal Pain and still achieve Sage Mode, so fighting against Zabuza and Haku would not be too much of a stretch to do the same thing if not easier.

There are countless other jutsu that Jiraiya could do to win, but i will now hand it back over to you. (I have to go now, so will reply tomorrow.)
 

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This whole Zabuza hype is getting strongly ridiculous.

Jiraiya would solo them low diff

Hell, even Gamabunta would solo them.
 
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