[Discussion] Haki vs BoA/VoA

[Tomato God]

Haki namly CoO Varies from the Breathe of all things and Voice of all things simply because of the limitations of increased observation.

Haki is extremely strong but it only shows attacks from people, there auras

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their thoughts

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But it becomes limited!

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Once luffy's brain shuts off Enel's ability to read thoughts become useless.
And even more so ussops awakened ability to see auras gave him no help finding the window he had to ask Violet to help him with.

BUT The breathe of all things and the Voice of all things have no indication of helping you in a brawl against humans it has only been displayed to show the ability to understand
Objects

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And in the voice of all thing's case its animals and historical text

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Gol D Roger could hear the voice of the tablet as well as the voices of sea kings

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I know alot of you would bring up how well know this is but in recent chapters more haki in the straw hats was awakened. And as more haki is needed for the crew I bring this back up to illustrate that not all the crew could use haki effectively.

Nami with CoO wouldn't help her predict the weather since CoO only deals with people not objects or weather instead it would be better for members of the crew like her to use BoA or VoA.
And in the event that long range battles ever happen to the two crewmembers who lack range Sanji and Chopper.
Assuming the assailant is outside of the range of Senese (Haki Vs Smell) They would both be sitting ducks as projectile and objects cannot be sensed by haki only by normal senses so to have Breath of all things and Voice of all things you would be able to feel/hear the object coming.
And thats why its important it bring up in haki disscussions



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Before sanji ever gets a long range attack he will get his own version of BoA/VOA that helps his prediction go to the next level and I predict it will be based off of taste/smell cooking related (flavor of all things) then a long range fire version of rankyaku

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Voice of all Things is not CoO, its a separate ability that can only be awakened by a select few Ds.

 

[Tomato God]

Voice of all Things is not CoO, its a separate ability that can only be awakened by a select few Ds.

Thats why I made this thread to illustrate the differences.
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Breath of all things IMO is different too.

 

[Fireplay]

Breath of all things is CoO. It would make no sense for it to be a separate thing because everything BoA has shown doing is the same as the things CoO does.

Zoro just used the term "breath" because back then we/he didn't know about Haki yet and he was at the verge of death.

People call it all types of things.

Zoro: "breath"
Coby: "voice"
Usopp: "presence"

"i knew they wouldn't land on me" Its a sign of enhanced observation.
Swords and stones do not breath Lol

And VoA is useless in combat. That is what CoO exists for.

 

[Tomato God]

Breath of all things is CoO. It would make no sense for it to be a separate thing because everything BoA has shown doing is the same as the things CoO does.

Zoro just used the term "breath" because back then we/he didn't know about Haki yet and he was at the verge of death.

People call it all types of things.

Zoro: "breath"
Coby: "voice"
Usopp: "presence"

"i knew they wouldn't land on me" Its a sign of enhanced observation.
Swords and stones do not breath Lol

And VoA is useless in combat. That is what CoO exists for.

As good as that theory sounds Breath of all things senses (so far shown) is objects and how they "breathe". And Haki Only is people related. And that allowed zoro to cut steel not a feat that CoO would allow.
And it also allowed him to not cut a palm tree.

Not cut and to cut what I please is what Breathe of all things does by sensing objects. None of those things are haki related.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I'm pretty sure Breath of All Things and Voice of All Things are the same as CoO. Zoro hears a distinct "breath", Luffy and Roger hear a distinct "voice", Usopp sees auras, Coby and Aisa hear heartbeats. I'm certain it's all the same Haki, but with variations.

 

[Fireplay]

As good as that theory sounds Breath of all things senses (so far shown) is objects and how they "breathe". And Haki Only is people related. And that allowed zoro to cut steel not a feat that CoO would allow.
And it also allowed him to not cut a palm tree.

Not cut and to cut what I please is what Breathe of all things does by sensing objects. None of those things are haki related.

Its actually just Haki. Zoro's little BoA would make no sense because palm trees, swords and stones don't breathe. He used "breath" as a way to describe what was going on.

If that was BoA then it would mean that Zoro's fodder teacher also has it. What Zoro did can be done by Shanks, Rayleigh, Mihawk and pretty much any high-tier swordsman. That was either him awakening as a swordsman (which everyone else have already done) or him awakening his CoO. This BoA is just a variation of CoO but back then we didn't know what Haki was. If BoA is shown again it'll simply be re-introduced as a variation of CoO.

Coby said that he could hear "voices disappear" Garp confirmed this to be a variation of CoO. Ever since Zoro's fight we haven't seen this BoA at all. It was just Zoro awakening, not a new power.

I mean look at Sanji. He can sense when a woman is in danger. He was doing this before Haki existed. Also, he can hear a womans tears dropping. Does Sanji have the "Voice of all women" or the "teardrops of all women" or even spider sense? The answer is no.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

BoA and VoA will be reserved for top tiers imo. And when I say top tiers I mean the top tier.

 

[Tomato God]

Its actually just Haki. Zoro's little BoA would make no sense because palm trees, swords and stones don't breathe. He used "breath" as a way to describe what was going on.

If that was BoA then it would mean that Zoro's fodder teacher also has it. What Zoro did can be done by Shanks, Rayleigh, Mihawk and pretty much any high-tier swordsman. That was either him awakening as a swordsman (which everyone else have already done) or him awakening his CoO. This BoA is just a variation of CoO but back then we didn't know what Haki was. If BoA is shown again it'll simply be re-introduced as a variation of CoO.

Coby said that he could hear "voices disappear" Garp confirmed this to be a variation of CoO. Ever since Zoro's fight we haven't seen this BoA at all. It was just Zoro awakening, not a new power.

I mean look at Sanji. He can sense when a woman is in danger. He was doing this before Haki existed. Also, he can hear a womans tears dropping. Does Sanji have the "Voice of all women" or the "teardrops of all women" or even spider sense? The answer is no.

Either way its just fan speculation. And Sanji's sense of danger was boss as ****