Well this is just something on my mind, but can you use busoshoku haki and you df powers together?
I mean can Sabo or Ace cover their flames with Color of armament and turn it to Black flames?
Or can Kizaru turn into Light and cover it with armament at the same time?
Can Smoker use armament on his somke and turn it black entirely?
I think Haki of armament cannot be used with the df ability but that's just me, and I know of a few manga examples that contradict this thought.
if aokiji`s look from film z is canon then i geuss yes cause he had magma burns on his body that means akainu used haki with his magma considering aokiji is a logia too so he should not be affected but it can also be due to magma (heat ) being aokiji`s DF natural enemy so iam not sure
Exactly! Smoker has shown Haki use on his hands which were not smoke at that moment. And as we know devil fruit powers can be activated in a way, otherwise people like Sabo or smoker would not be able to stand. Even Luffy has only been coating Haki to those areas of his body that are not stretched most of the times, but his Elephant gun falls under a gray area, but many paramecia users have show Haki use.
But Marco turned half his body into human form when he hit Kizaru (Logia).
And can someone give me a panel with Doflamingo and his strings having haki?
Exactly! Smoker has shown Haki use on his hands which were not smoke at that moment. And as we know devil fruit powers can be activated in a way, otherwise people like Sabo or smoker would not be able to stand. Even Luffy has only been coating Haki to those areas of his body that are not stretched most of the times, but his Elephant gun falls under a gray area, but many paramecia users have show Haki use.
But Marco turned half his body into human form when he hit Kizaru (Logia).
And can someone give me a panel with Doflamingo and his strings having haki?
But Luffys body is his devil fruit power and he can use Haki. This simple logic means he's using both at once. Especially considering he's used G3 Haki attacks...
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Smokers arm was still made of smoke when he used Haki... see the smoke being expelled from his elbow?
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And I'd be surprised if Borsalino's light sword withstood Rayleighs Haki without the implementation of his own
P.S How would Logias battle if neither could hit eachother? Just because; at the time, Haki had no visual representation in the Manga, it does not mean that they simply didn't use Haki.
No doubt you'll come back and argue against the manga facts everyone knows
But Luffys body is his devil fruit power and he can use Haki. This simple logic means he's using both at once. Especially considering he's used G3 Haki attacks...
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Smokers arm was still made of smoke when he used Haki... see the smoke being expelled from his elbow?
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And I'd be surprised if Borsalino's light sword withstood Rayleighs Haki without the implementation of his own
P.S How would Logias battle if neither could hit eachother? Just because; at the time, Haki had no visual representation in the Manga, it does not mean that they simply didn't use Haki.
No doubt you'll come back and argue against the manga facts everyone knows
Haki has been yet to be shown extend off a devil fruit user.
Example: When Akoji shots Ice sabers, it doesn't get covered in Haki.
It's just an ordinary Ice sculpture.
•Vergo can't extend his Haki on to his bamboo stick without hold it.
•Pica can't cover assimilated stones that he's not touching in Haki
•Akoji's Pheasant is independent from the caster cannot be covered in Haki.
Besides those, Haki has yet to be shown covering smoker's smoke and Sabo's fire.
The only person so far is luffy, which is understandable because his devil fruit doesn't take a different form.
All it does it extend/stretch his already existing body.
But one thing I did notice is that luffy has never expanded/stretch his body after applying Haki.
He always stretch/expand first before applying Koka Haki, and there could be a possibility that this spiritual armor restricts it.
Doflamingo uses skypath (strings to attach to clouds) in the air, and we know for sure that he is not using Haki everytime he glides from one cloud to the next.
Since Smoker carries the same properties of a cloud, his strings wil get smoker without Haki seeing how sky path works.
Smoker was just an bad match up against smoker, and clouds are Doffy's strength.
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im going on anime stuff cause i think oda uses it to cover more than the manga on some stuff.
we see weapons like zoros sword in the anime being covered by haki.
little bit about hawk eye telling zoro a knick in the sword is a scare on a swordmans pride. use haki and no one will break or knick your sword.
so sabo will be able to use haki on hid pole prob with a flame are like smoker.
but i think a df haki user can use both as shown countless times but haki fire no, haki music notes no,haki magma no, but haki pre made ice staff yes, haki dino teeth yes, haki sword leg/arm yes, haki wing yes.
if its pre made i think it can be turn harder with haki and if it is part of your body like arm, wing, sword.
heres a question
do you think there can be a haki slash that leaves the weapon or user like channelled will?
i think only physical attacks and tangible things can be enhanced by haki. we've yet to see intangible things such as flames & gas be enhanced by haki. a flame punch, sure. because the fist is tangible. but not a flame shot or fireball perse, so i doubt those could be.
i think only physical attacks and tangible things can be enhanced by haki. we've yet to see intangible things such as flames & gas be enhanced by haki. a flame punch, sure. because the fist is tangible. but not a flame shot or fireball perse, so i doubt those could be.
Haki has been yet to be shown extend off a devil fruit user.
Example: When Akoji shots Ice sabers, it doesn't get covered in Haki.
It's just an ordinary Ice sculpture.
•Vergo can't extend his Haki on to his bamboo stick without hold it.
•Pica can't cover assimilated stones that he's not touching in Haki
•Akoji's Pheasant is independent from the caster cannot be covered in Haki.
Besides those, Haki has yet to be shown covering smoker's smoke and Sabo's fire.
The only person so far is luffy, which is understandable because his devil fruit doesn't take a different form.
All it does it extend/stretch his already existing body.
But one thing I did notice is that luffy has never expanded/stretch his body after applying Haki.
He always stretch/expand first before applying Koka Haki, and there could be a possibility that this spiritual armor restricts it.
Doflamingo uses skypath (strings to attach to clouds) in the air, and we know for sure that he is not using Haki everytime he glides from one cloud to the next.
Since Smoker carries the same properties of a cloud, his strings wil get smoker without Haki seeing how sky path works.
Smoker was just an bad match up against smoker, and clouds are Doffy's strength.
Smoke and clouds are very different. Smokers smoke definitely arent clouds either... how is that relevant anyway?
How would Doffy survive a Diable Jambe without Haki (considering Sanji probably used Haki... Nami's life was at stake)?
Fact is you saw Luffy using Haki... His rubber body is his power and the fact he can use koka at all proves my point
Projectiles can have Haki though? Arrows of the Kuja pirates for example, or Ben Beckmanns gun. Simple fact is that if you touch it you can inbue your Haki and it will stay there. Same can be said for Logia users, Kuzans Ice probably did have Haki for that simple, we just couldn't see it yet. It's also difficult to draw Haki on fire or smoke etc. But we've seen Smoker use both Haki and smoke at the same time in the panel above.
The fact that you didn't read my post proves my point.
Luffy's rubber arm is his organic tissue, where as ice, fire, magma, light, quake, and stones etc are not which further proves my point.
Projectiles can have Haki though? Arrows of the Kuja pirates for example, or Ben Beckmanns gun. Simple fact is that if you touch it you can inbue your Haki and it will stay there. Same can be said for Logia users, Kuzans Ice probably did have Haki for that simple, we just couldn't see it yet. It's also difficult to draw Haki on fire or smoke etc. But we've seen Smoker use both Haki and smoke at the same time in the panel above.
I don't see why not. Zoro has embedded his immaterial flying slashes with Haki, so it's fully possible for people who create elements or other substances from their body to do the same. Doflamingo and Luffy have used their powers with Haki alongside them, so it's not like using Haki nullifies your DF powers.
