[Theory] Hagoromo's Eyes !!

[Vkdude]

I just had the most Amazing thought which is either a genius one or the dumbest ! So, up till now we have now idea about what happened to Hagoromo's BROTHER ! So , what if like hagoromo's son , kaguya's two sons were gifted with different powers ? What if :

1. Hagoromo was born with a strong body and stamina like Ashura.
2. Hagoromo's brother was born with kaguya's visual powers ( Rinnegan ).

Now, I think that wile trying to seal the ten tails ... hagoromo's brother sacrificed himself and gave his eyes to his brother to seal the ten tails ! As he was born with a stronger body and stamina, he was the perfect candidate to be the juubi's jinchuuriki ! Obviously, hagoromo's brother couldn't obtain hagoromo's body but hagoromo could obtain his eyes ! With his visual powers and strong body he can defeat it and seal it ! But since hagoromo's visual powers weren't natural , his son Indra was born with a sharingan and not rinnegan .

I think it makes sense , its almost how izuna sacrificed himself to help madara protect the uchiha clan !

What do u guys think ??

 

[Klezmi]

If Hagoromo didn't naturaly obtain his eyes,then there were no genes that could be passed on to his kids so they could inherit strong eyes

 

[UCE]

Good, Good U_U

 

[002]

It is an entertaining insight on the situation. Kishi did leave a huge void for many things to be interpreted so I don't believe that this is impossible.

 

[Vkdude]

If Hagoromo didn't naturaly obtain his eyes,there were no genes that could be passed on to his kid so they could inherit the eyes

But there is a possibility that since hagoromo has kaguya's blood ( u know vat I mean ! )... he somehow obtained it ! Kaguya did had a sharinnegan !

 

[ugh]

well i know Kaguya had a Byakugan and Sharingun

did she also have a Renningun

 

[Klezmi]

I understand what you want to say,who knows,but anyway a cool theory!

 

[Vkdude]

I understand what you want to say,who knows,but anyway a cool theory!

Thanks !

 

[LUMOS ULTIMATUM]

No! Combining ashura and indra's chakras bring out Hagoromo's chakra which cause the rinnegan to awaken. Why else would Madara have awakened it?

 

[Vkdude]

No! Combining ashura and indra's chakras bring out Hagoromo's chakra which cause the rinnegan to awaken. Why else would Madara have awakened it?

im not saying about awakening it ! im talking about transplanting ! Didn't madara transplant it in nagato !?

 

[LUMOS ULTIMATUM]

im not saying about awakening it ! im talking about transplanting ! Didn't madara transplant it in nagato !?

If Hagoromo's eyes were transplanted, I doubt that anyone acquiring his chakra would awaken the rinnegan.

 

[Klezmi]

If Hagoromo's eyes were transplanted, I doubt that anyone acquiring his chakra would awaken the rinnegan.

Point proved

 

[esenn1]

1. Hagoromo was born with a strong body and stamina like Ashura.
2. Hagoromo's brother was born with kaguya's visual powers ( Rinnegan ).

No, Hagoromo had both. This is the most obvious manga fact

 

[Jack Spicer]

Stupid levels are so high here. Can't even look...

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[HouKage]

I just had the most Amazing thought which is either a genius one or the dumbest ! So, up till now we have now idea about what happened to Hagoromo's BROTHER ! So , what if like hagoromo's son , kaguya's two sons were gifted with different powers ? What if :

1. Hagoromo was born with a strong body and stamina like Ashura.
2. Hagoromo's brother was born with kaguya's visual powers ( Rinnegan ).

Now, I think that wile trying to seal the ten tails ... hagoromo's brother sacrificed himself and gave his eyes to his brother to seal the ten tails ! As he was born with a stronger body and stamina, he was the perfect candidate to be the juubi's jinchuuriki ! Obviously, hagoromo's brother couldn't obtain hagoromo's body but hagoromo could obtain his eyes ! With his visual powers and strong body he can defeat it and seal it ! But since hagoromo's visual powers weren't natural , his son Indra was born with a sharingan and not rinnegan .

I think it makes sense , its almost how izuna sacrificed himself to help madara protect the uchiha clan !

What do u guys think ??

Actually. . . . I tend to think maybe Hagoromo just took them. He himself said he changed after seeing his son's life
not before. . . . .So . .. before he might have been a bit more Brutal and trying to do it all himself.

My Theory is similar . . . .well . . here it is:

Orochimaru is . . . . . Hagoroomo's brother [Reincarnated? Transmigrant?].
First - What exactly do we know about Orochimaru? He is an orphan. From where? What is up with his eyes?
I wonder if: Maybe he is Hagoroomo's brother's will going through the generations like Hagoroomo's sons are. From person to person until it became Orochimaru. [Like Naruto and Susake are the reincarnations of the sons - Ashura and Indra]
What spark me to think in this direction is how Kaguya is trying to take over Madara. Seems eerily similar to how Orochimaru over takes people's bodies. [Like mother Like son?]
Hagoroomo got one skill set from this mother. . . Orochimaru got the other.
[not unlike Hagoroomo's sons having different skills.]
Hagoroomo got the body . . . . orochimaru got something else. the eternal spirit to move body to body?? [Guessing]

Lastly - Just because Orochimaru and Hagoroomo fought their mother . . .does not mean they did it for the same reasons. They both knew they could not win on their own. Once their mother was defeated perhap Hagoroomo defeated Orochimaru sending him on this generational quest to find that 'perfect body' to fight his brother or reclaim his 'birthright'. REMEMBER Hagoroomo was not about sharing until AFTER he witness Ashura's life.

Orochimaru always seemed to know more than anyone else.
He also lies alot.

That is my Wacky Theory
Would be awesome too . . cause I like Orochimaru
Which is why I truly expect him to slip out of the cocoon

But hey . . its just a theory.

 

[NaruSasuRival]

I just had the most Amazing thought which is either a genius one or the dumbest ! So, up till now we have now idea about what happened to Hagoromo's BROTHER ! So , what if like hagoromo's son , kaguya's two sons were gifted with different powers ? What if :

1. Hagoromo was born with a strong body and stamina like Ashura.
2. Hagoromo's brother was born with kaguya's visual powers ( Rinnegan ).

Now, I think that wile trying to seal the ten tails ... hagoromo's brother sacrificed himself and gave his eyes to his brother to seal the ten tails ! As he was born with a stronger body and stamina, he was the perfect candidate to be the juubi's jinchuuriki ! Obviously, hagoromo's brother couldn't obtain hagoromo's body but hagoromo could obtain his eyes ! With his visual powers and strong body he can defeat it and seal it ! But since hagoromo's visual powers weren't natural , his son Indra was born with a sharingan and not rinnegan .

I think it makes sense , its almost how izuna sacrificed himself to help madara protect the uchiha clan !

What do u guys think ??

As you said, it is either a genius idea, or a dumb one. My take is that it is certainly not a genius one. I won't say it is either dumb. Rather, I would like to draw your attention on what's going on.

See, many fanboys who couldn't understand the manga have always been saying that Naruto is the body and Sasuke is the eyes, making a parallel with Rikudo's children. At the same time, they always thought that they were correct because they based their story solely on Rikudo's children.

Now, for those of us who had a broad idea, they never considered Naruto as a body of Rikudo, but as someone with the full power of Rikudo himself. While we are bashed left and right, our argument does not suffer any fluctuation no matter what the change in the story is. On the other hand, the proponent of body-eyes duality have been shaken recently with the introduction of Rikudo's brother in the fight against Juubi, and now the introduction of Kaguya herself.

Your present post is an evidence of the confusion that is taking your understanding over. Clearly, you are being alert that the body-eye concept does not apply to Naruto and Sasuke anymore. Thus, you are trying to convince yourself that Rikudo did not awaken Rinnegan, but was given one by his brother. Clearly this is not true given that we already know that in the mechanism of awakening Rinnegan, neither of the two (Ashura and Indra) can awaken it alone. This itself prove that the origin of the Rinnegan is neither the Sharingan, nor the body. There is something that is born when the two are mixed. This thing is what Rikudo called his chakra power!

I bet Rikudo's Rinnegan - I mean the way he unlocked it - is one of the thing that Kishi will show. It is not only from being Kaguya's son. Rather, it goes beyond genetics. To see the flaw in your argument, try to find whom of Rikudo and his brother had Byakugan.

 

[InvaderRaz]

If Hagoromo's eyes were transplanted, I doubt that anyone acquiring his chakra would awaken the rinnegan.

not necessarily true... Hago and his brother were children of the same person, their chakra would have been similar (if not the exact same) so in theory it could be said that by combining the chakra of indra and ashura that you were simply creating the chakra of the generation before ie hago and his brother. Maybe Hago and his brother were both born with EMS and the act of transplanting one set into the other is what awoken the rinnegan

 

[ILoveTheMoon]

Actually. . . . I tend to think maybe Hagoromo just took them. He himself said he changed after seeing his son's life
not before. . . . .So . .. before he might have been a bit more Brutal and trying to do it all himself.

My Theory is similar . . . .well . . here it is:

Orochimaru is . . . . . Hagoroomo's brother [Reincarnated? Transmigrant?].
First - What exactly do we know about Orochimaru? He is an orphan. From where? What is up with his eyes?
I wonder if: Maybe he is Hagoroomo's brother's will going through the generations like Hagoroomo's sons are. From person to person until it became Orochimaru. [Like Naruto and Susake are the reincarnations of the sons - Ashura and Indra]
What spark me to think in this direction is how Kaguya is trying to take over Madara. Seems eerily similar to how Orochimaru over takes people's bodies. [Like mother Like son?]
Hagoroomo got one skill set from this mother. . . Orochimaru got the other.
[not unlike Hagoroomo's sons having different skills.]
Hagoroomo got the body . . . . orochimaru got something else. the eternal spirit to move body to body?? [Guessing]

Lastly - Just because Orochimaru and Hagoroomo fought their mother . . .does not mean they did it for the same reasons. They both knew they could not win on their own. Once their mother was defeated perhap Hagoroomo defeated Orochimaru sending him on this generational quest to find that 'perfect body' to fight his brother or reclaim his 'birthright'. REMEMBER Hagoroomo was not about sharing until AFTER he witness Ashura's life.

Orochimaru always seemed to know more than anyone else.
He also lies alot.

That is my Wacky Theory
Would be awesome too . . cause I like Orochimaru
Which is why I truly expect him to slip out of the cocoon

But hey . . its just a theory.

Seriously I wouldn't say I agree that Orochimaru is Hagoromo's brother, but I really like your view of the So6P. A lot of people believe that he's just some nice guy with good intentions, but it doesn't mean it always has been that way. In fact, I remember when I first saw him, I had a really bad feeling, like he's not telling everything. Even Naruto didn't seem to trust him completely, check the last panel: ''I don't think he's my ennemy... But...''

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I don't know maybe he really doesn't have bad intentions, but i don't really believe he has good ones either. >< It's hard to explain but I just hope we'll get to see Kaguya's point of view even though she looks crazy.

 

[abdullahi09]

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