Hagoromoo's Yin power?

[Ansatsuken]

I dont think Hagoromo can used Genjutsu but anything that falls under Yin release he can possibly used it except "Genjutsu"

 

[VongolaX]

Ah. That's why you brought it up.

Madara had years to awaken the rinnegan, I guess, as well as the gedo. I thought of Tayuya but her flute goes under genjutsu too which would've been useless vs Kaguya.

Hago wasn't in any condition to be fighting and using the yin senpou lightning or w/e anyway, I suppose. Even Hago seems to be mainly body based while his bro must be dojutsu based despite having the inferior dojutsu imo. It's weird, alright.

I can't remember and this will sound stupid but was ghost Hago intangible? Is that not considered yin release then? *shrugs* losing Naruto details every day

I don't know why Hagoromoo wasn't able to intervene, he did summon the kages though.
The ghost Hagoromoo falls under the same technique as Tobirama. He was able to give chakra away and bring the dead to aid him like Tobirama's edo tensei.

He has Naruto AND Hashirama's massive life energy. BTW, it's the opposite actually.

@bold He could or could not have Mokuton. We have no proof for this. Being a Juubi Jin doesn't guarantee Mokuton's usage. Though being the founder of shinobi, we can assume he had it.

@underlined No, nothing like that.

What about Yin? Well, his Rinnegan (and it's lower forms like Sharingan and MS contained within) is Yin. Wasn't that already manifest?

Hashirama doesn't have nearly as much massive life energy like Naruto and Ashura. Their energy is so great to the point that energy flames emit from their bodies. Hashirama's is trasmitted through mokuton. All juubi jinchuuriki's that was seen so far has all shown mokuton capabilities.

Tobirama's soul technique:

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Is exactly what Hagoromoo was doing. It's the same

Rinnegan is not Yin, otherwise Madara wouldn't need ashura's chakra to awaken one.

He showcased them both equally. His Yang was massive life force and physical energy which Senjus had. And his Yin was powerful chakra and spiritual energy which Uchihas had.

His Yang power was RSM (lower or related forms include SM, BM etc which Senjus had). His Yin power was Rinnegan (lower forms include Sharingan and MS which Uchihas had).

Hagoromoo wouldn't have MS. Indra picked up the sharingan because of generics. Hagoromoo and Haruma were both born with RSM and powerful ocular chakra, but they both gained different eyes from their mother. Indra was gifted with his fathers strong chakra (meaning he already had hagoromoo's chakra without mixing anything) but genetically he obtained a different doujustu all together.

I dont think Hagoromo can used Genjutsu but anything that falls under Yin release he can possibly used it except "Genjutsu"

How come?

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

@Vongola cuz I cba quoting and cutting sections on my phone. I guess Hago was limited due to travelling time or w/e he did. Plus he seemed to give Naruto & Sasuke the majority of his power for some reason. Yin is creating things using your mind. Yang is giving life to them. I can't think of anything that Hago could've made to help Naruto & Sasuke other than a neat lil summon or something that acts like Katsuyu with the walkie talkie function.

I must've missed the soul bits or forgotten them. Tobirama seems even more Godly than before. I suppose weakened spirit Hago can't solo Kaguya & that explains it all. If he kept all his power and somehow managed to team up with Naruto & Sasuke without the power ups, they'd end up gettimg totally blitzed/dimension trapped/falling into lava. More Yin jutsu were needed in general tbh.

 

[VongolaX]

@Vongola cuz I cba quoting and cutting sections on my phone. I guess Hago was limited due to travelling time or w/e he did. Plus he seemed to give Naruto & Sasuke the majority of his power for some reason. Yin is creating things using your mind. Yang is giving life to them. I can't think of anything that Hago could've made to help Naruto & Sasuke other than a neat lil summon or something that acts like Katsuyu with the walkie talkie function.

I must've missed the soul bits or forgotten them. Tobirama seems even more Godly than before. I suppose weakened spirit Hago can't solo Kaguya & that explains it all. If he kept all his power and somehow managed to team up with Naruto & Sasuke without the power ups, they'd end up gettimg totally blitzed/dimension trapped/falling into lava. More Yin jutsu were needed in general tbh.

True very true. There's noway he's fighting Kaguya in that condition too.

And yes, Tobirama is very godly in my opinion as well. He's basically what a Senju is without mokuton.
He uses techniques that drain physical energy (shadow clones) and techniques that requires some kind of life energy/souls like edo tensei or that one technique he wanted to use on Sasuke.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Hashirama doesn't have nearly as much massive life energy like Naruto and Ashura. Their energy is so great to the point that energy flames emit from their bodies. Hashirama's is trasmitted through mokuton. All juubi jinchuuriki's that was seen so far has all shown mokuton capabilities.

The flame emission phenomenon in Naruto's case is due to Kurama. And it's not due to life energy because even Yin Kurama can do that.

And your logic implies that Naruto's life energy is greater than a JJ because he emits flames. Fallacious obviously.

Tobirama's soul technique:

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Is exactly what Hagoromoo was doing. It's the same

Well, maybe.

Rinnegan is not Yin, otherwise Madara wouldn't need ashura's chakra to awaken one.

Madara only needed Ashura's chakra to awaken Hagoromo's chakra, not because his Rinnegan needed that Yang. He got the Yang and Mokuton as byproduct.

If Hashirama took Madara's chakra, he'd have awakened RSM (due to Rikodou's chakra + SM). Does that mean RSM is not Yang?

Hagoromoo wouldn't have MS. Indra picked up the sharingan because of generics. Hagoromoo and Haruma were both born with RSM and powerful ocular chakra, but they both gained different eyes from their mother. Indra was gifted with his fathers strong chakra (meaning he already had hagoromoo's chakra without mixing anything) but genetically he obtained a different doujustu all together.

Rinnegan is a progression of Sharingan. You add Rikodou's chakra to Sharingan and it becomes a Rinnegan. Just like how you add Rikodou's chakra to SM and it becomes RSM. And since Rinnegan is the highest form of Sharingan, it possesses all Sharingan powers. There is no way Indra could have Sharingan if Hagoromo didn't have anything related to it.

 

[VongolaX]

The flame emission phenomenon in Naruto's case is due to Kurama. And it's not due to life energy because even Yin Kurama can do that.

And your logic implies that Naruto's life energy is greater than a JJ because he emits flames. Fallacious obviously.

This Yang kurama or Yin kurama, naruto's life energy was something that blossomed because he is an Ashura incarnate. Naruto needed to release the hate and control the bijuus chakra to blossom such life energy. Hashirama is not like Ashura or Naruto in this aspect. JJ's have life energy flames on their body too:

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So that's not a good comparison.

Madara only needed Ashura's chakra to awaken Hagoromo's chakra, not because his Rinnegan needed that Yang. He got the Yang and Mokuton as byproduct.

Yes, to awaken the rinnegan you need ashura's chakra. There's no such thing as a byproduct. Without having ashura's chakra, the rinnegan is non existent. Having only Yin=/=Rinnegan. Hagoromoo's chakra consist of indra and ashura, Hagoromoo was already born with the vital energy and spiritual energy to obtain the rinnegan.

If Hashirama took Madara's chakra, he'd have awakened RSM (due to Rikodou's chakra + SM). Does that mean RSM is not Yang?

Even if naruto took Sasuke's chakra, he's not awakening rsm. Rsm is not just yang.
Rsm is a another type of senjustu. That main source of senjustu came from the juubi/kaguya

Haruma/Hagoromoo= Born with rikudou senjustu from their mother (the juubi)

Ashur= inherited from father

Madara/Obito= Senjustu from the juubi

Side note: Madara had hashirama's tissues, hashi's senjustiu, and rikudou chakra as blind/rinnegan madara. Did he get rsm then? No, he didn't. So hashirama with madara's chakra will not get rsm.

Naruto= summoned hagoromoo with the chakra of all nine bijuus (part of the juubi) to receive rsm from hagoromoo.

So So indra+ashura with hashirama's senjustu/naruto's frog senjustu does not give you rsm.

Rinnegan is a progression of Sharingan. You add Rikodou's chakra to Sharingan and it becomes a Rinnegan. Just like how you add Rikodou's chakra to SM and it becomes RSM. And since Rinnegan is the highest form of Sharingan, it possesses all Sharingan powers. There is no way Indra could have Sharingan if Hagoromo didn't have anything related to it.

Some points you made were wrong.

Bold:
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Indra and Kakashi both had rikudou chakra, yet they didn't awaken the rinnegan

2. Rikoudou chakra to any sagemode does not give you rsm.
Rsm consist from the juubi. Just like frog senjustu is to Dsm, it is a completely different type of senjustu.

 

[Ansatsuken]

This Yang kurama or Yin kurama, naruto's life energy was something that blossomed because he is an Ashura incarnate. Naruto needed to release the hate and control the bijuus chakra to blossom such life energy. Hashirama is not like Ashura or Naruto in this aspect. JJ's have life energy flames on their body too:

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So that's not a good comparison.



Yes, to awaken the rinnegan you need ashura's chakra. There's no such thing as a byproduct. Without having ashura's chakra, the rinnegan is non existent. Having only Yin=/=Rinnegan. Hagoromoo's chakra consist of indra and ashura, Hagoromoo was already born with the vital energy and spiritual energy to obtain the rinnegan.



Even if naruto took Sasuke's chakra, he's not awakening rsm. Rsm is not just yang.
Rsm is a another type of senjustu. That main source of senjustu came from the juubi/kaguya

Haruma/Hagoromoo= Born with rikudou senjustu from their mother (the juubi)

Ashur= inherited from father

Madara/Obito= Senjustu from the juubi

Side note: Madara had hashirama's tissues, hashi's senjustiu, and rikudou chakra as blind/rinnegan madara. Did he get rsm then? No, he didn't. So hashirama with madara's chakra will not get rsm.

Naruto= summoned hagoromoo with the chakra of all nine bijuus (part of the juubi) to receive rsm from hagoromoo.

So So indra+ashura with hashirama's senjustu/naruto's frog senjustu does not give you rsm.



Some points you made were wrong.

Bold:
1.

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Indra and Kakashi both had rikudou chakra, yet they didn't awaken the rinnegan

2. Rikoudou chakra to any sagemode does not give you rsm.
Rsm consist from the juubi. Just like frog senjustu is to Dsm, it is a completely different type of senjustu.

Kakashi didnt have Hagoromo's type of Rikudou chakra but Juubi's Rikudou chakra. And no, Indra never had Rikudou chakra but Powerful new type of chakra that will be known later as Uchiha's chakra.

Only Hagoromo's Rikudou chakra that you obtained by combining both halves of Rikudou's child chakra can gave you Hagoromo's Rinnegan.

And other point. Hagoromo's chakra will not gave Yang user RSM chakra. His chakra(from Ashura and Indra chakra combination) already been set toward Rinnegan and not RSM. Manga and DB support this. The only way to obtain RSM was by directly received Power-up from Hagoromo and not by acquiring Indra and Ashura chakra.

Think harder and you will see/get the answer without need to create any thread.

 

[VongolaX]

Kakashi didnt have Hagoromo's type of Rikudou chakra but Juubi's Rikudou chakra. And no, Indra never had Rikudou chakra but Powerful new type of chakra that will be known later as Uchiha's chakra.

Rikudou chakra originally came from the juubi itself, his mother. Kakashi had rikudou chakra period.

Indra did have rikudou chakra, it is clearly stated in the scan I posted. He inherited his fathers strong chakra (hagoromoo's) and spiritual energy.

Only Hagoromo's Rikudou chakra that you obtained by combining both halves of Rikudou's child chakra can gave you Hagoromo's Rinnegan.

No, you either combined both Indra and Ashura, get it from the juubi, or receive it from Hagormoo's complete chakra itself.
That's how it works.

And other point. Hagoromo's chakra will not gave Yang user RSM chakra. His chakra(from Ashura and Indra chakra combination) already been set toward Rinnegan and not RSM. Manga and DB support this. The only way to obtain RSM was by directly received Power-up from Hagoromo and not by acquiring Indra and Ashura chakra.

Bold:It's give not gave.

1. Read properly. I did not say yang gives rsm, I said rikudou senjustu gives users rsm. Which can only be obtained by the juubi or all nine bijuu chakra

2. I never said that Indra's chakra has to do with rsm. Again, learn to read properly.

Think harder and you will see/get the answer without need to create any thread.

Learn to read harder before posting anything else. Understanding comes first before putting down assumptions.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Rikudou chakra originally came from the juubi itself, his mother. Kakashi had rikudou chakra period.

Indra did have rikudou chakra, it is clearly stated in the scan I posted. He inherited his fathers strong chakra (hagoromoo's) and spiritual energy.




No, you either combined both Indra and Ashura, get it from the juubi, or receive it from Hagormoo's complete chakra itself.
That's how it works.



Bold:It's give not gave.

1. Read properly. I did not say yang gives rsm, I said rikudou senjustu gives users rsm. Which can only be obtained by the juubi or all nine bijuu chakra

2. I never said that Indra's chakra has to do with rsm. Again, learn to read properly.



Learn to read harder before posting anything else. Understanding comes first before putting down assumptions.

-First part of your post;

Your post here completely against manga. Hagoromo never said Juubi chakra will gives/help awaken Rinnegan eyes. He said his own power/chakra or chakra that origin from his body and not Juubi.

Your statement can be valid if Hagoromo said Juubi chakra can gave someone Rinnegan also. Kaguya have Rikudou chakra but she never had/awoken Rinnegan, JJ Obito never awaken his own Rinnegan.

The difference here, inside Juubi chakra it just happen to have primordial traits/components. What I mean by primordial traits is anything Kaguya obtained after consuming chakra fruit(e.g:Rinn Sharingan and her other Six Path abilities excluding Rinnegan).

And Rinnegan not yet/never be a part of Kaguya but Hagoromo's Six path chakra traits/components.

But all above is logic/assumption.

I cant do anything for a people that tried to against manga and I tried to not using logic/assumption here but you force me. This thing can be solve easily but people chose to go with his/her ego, logic etc.

-Second part of your post;

My post about RSM is actually dedicated to The Demon Hawk. Not you.

 

[VongolaX]

-First part of your post;

Your post here completely against manga. Hagoromo never said Juubi chakra will gives/help awaken Rinnegan eyes. He said his own power/chakra or chakra that origin from his body and not Juubi.

I said juubi chakra gives rsm senjustu. Juubi used rikudou senjustu not the rinnegan.
The juubi is what gives you Hagormoo's chakra:

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You can still have hagormoo's chakra and not awaken the rinnegan

Your statement can be valid if Hagoromo said Juubi chakra can gave someone Rinnegan also. Kaguya have Rikudou chakra but she never had/awoken Rinnegan, JJ Obito never awaken his own Rinnegan.

Hagormoo never said that juubi chakra can give you the rinnegan.

Rinnegan is genetics and rare among those with Indra+Ashura chakra. Not everyone will get a rinnegan.
Indra had his fathers chakra, yet he never awakened the rinnegan. His brother and his mother both share the same type of chakra, yet each of them awakened their own type of doujustu.

So automatic hagormoo chakra doesn't immediately give you the rinnegan. And only two incarnates with rikudou chakra was able to awaken them. (according to black zetsu)

The difference here, inside Juubi chakra it just happen to have primordial traits/components. What I mean by primordial traits is anything Kaguya obtained after consuming chakra fruit(e.g:Rinn Sharingan and her other Six Path abilities excluding Rinnegan).

primordial trait is the beginning/first of all traits. The juubi did not have a byukgan or a rinnegan. So I'm questioning where you are going with this. The mother and the two sons both each have different doujustus.

And Rinnegan not yet/never be a part of Kaguya but Hagoromo's Six path chakra traits/components.

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Nope, you need to ask yourself where Hagormoo obtain that power.
But all above is logic/assumption.

I cant do anything for a people that tried to against manga and I tried to not using logic/assumption here but you force me. This thing can be solve easily but people chose to go with his/her ego, logic etc.

I didn't see anything from the manga posted here from you. I just see your speculations.

-Second part of your post;

My post about RSM is actually dedicated to The Demon Hawk. Not you.

Then why did you quote me?

 

[Ansatsuken]

I said juubi chakra gives rsm senjustu. Juubi used rikudou senjustu not the rinnegan.
The juubi is what gives you Hagormoo's chakra:

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You can still have hagormoo's chakra and not awaken the rinnegan



Hagormoo never said that juubi chakra can give you the rinnegan.

Rinnegan is genetics and rare among those with Indra+Ashura chakra. Not everyone will get a rinnegan.
Indra had his fathers chakra, yet he never awakened the rinnegan. His brother and his mother both share the same type of chakra, yet each of them awakened their own type of doujustu.

So automatic hagormoo chakra doesn't immediately give you the rinnegan. And only two incarnates with rikudou chakra was able to awaken them. (according to black zetsu)




primordial trait is the beginning/first of all traits. The juubi did not have a byukgan or a rinnegan. So I'm questioning where you are going with this. The mother and the two sons both each have different doujustus.

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Nope, you need to ask yourself where Hagormoo obtain that power.
But all above is logic/assumption.



I didn't see anything from the manga posted here from you. I just see your speculations.


Then why did you quote me?

The questioning part actually never need to exist.

If Kaguya have Rinnegan power, why she never shows any Jutsu that remotely close to Hagoromo's Rinnegan abilities?

Thats why I said Rinnegan is not part of Kaguya but Hagoromo. It bcus of "chakra evolution" happen to Hagoromo. He was one of his kind in NV. Thats what separate apart Kaguya's own Six Path chakra and Hagoromo's own Six Path chakra.

Hamura still follow majority of Kaguya's physical traits(Doujutsu).

Kakashi even called rinnegan as "a mutation". People assume it came from a combination of Byakugan+Rinn Sharingan.

And if Indra have his father's chakra, why Rinnegan still need both of Indra+Ashura chakra to awaken it? Couldnt you see the problem here? If Someone(Madara as example) already had Indra's chakra inside them where you said it equal to Hagoromo's Six Path chakra, why he need the other "Hagoromo's Six Path chakra" for Rinnegan?

Thats mean Indra never inherit Hago Six Path chakra but he inherit A chakra that very powerful(potent)and massive.
The chakra every Uchiha have now.

 

[VongolaX]

The questioning part actually never need to exist.

If Kaguya have Rinnegan power, why she never shows any Jutsu that remotely close to Hagoromo's Rinnegan abilities?

Nobody has shown Hagormoo's ability. The only thing he shown was yin yang chibakui tensei, summoning justu, and a soul appearance technique (something Dan and Tobirama can do).

And nagato's ability (which I assume you call Hagormoo) has been shown by no other rinnegan user but nagato. So asking why kaguya hasn't shown those abilities of nagato is like asking why hasn't Sasuke, Madara, or Obito who had rinnegans display this kind of abilities. (And don't use that Chibakui tensei=All of six path ability assumption, it's all fanfic that was never mentioned in the manga).

Thats why I said Rinnegan is not part of Kaguya but Hagoromo. It bcus of "chakra evolution" happen to Hagoromo. He was one of his kind in NV. Thats what separate apart Kaguya's own Six Path chakra and Hagoromo's own Six Path chakra.

Kaguya is the evolution of chakra. Just look at momoniski, he's of ootsuki clan with a rinnegan. Everyone has their own unique chakra, even the ones that have the rinnegan. So just as kaguya, Rinnegan Madara himself has his own six path chakra unique to him as well. And as the manga stated multiple times:

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Hagormoo was born with his mom's chakra in him. Without her chakra being born within his body, he would not have the rinnegan.

Hamura still follow majority of Kaguya's physical traits(Doujutsu).

Haruma does not have a sharingan on his forehead, so no. And each child gets 50/50 from the parents.

Kakashi even called rinnegan as "a mutation". People assume it came from a combination of Byakugan+Rinn Sharingan.

And that's why it is an assumption and not a manga fact. So let's keep it that way.
It's clearly not a Byakugan+Rinn Sharingan considering that

1. Kaguya's sharingan is stronger than both her son's doujustus

2. Rinnegan has absolutely 0% uses of hyuuga taijustu techniques as well as the sharingan.

And if Indra have his father's chakra, why Rinnegan still need both of Indra+Ashura chakra to awaken it? Couldnt you see the problem here? If Someone(Madara as example) already had Indra's chakra inside them where you said it equal to Hagoromo's Six Path chakra, why he need the other "Hagoromo's Six Path chakra" for Rinnegan?

Before I go on, you said that Kagauya cannot have Hagormoo's direct chakra. You do realize that the same thing is for Madara right? he's a long descendant on one side of the Uchiha.

Not to answer that question is simple too.

Indra inherited his father's strong chakra AND spiritual energy.
While Ashura was born with sage's physical energy AND stamina(longevity).

Important: Now here's the best part the nobody thought about. Indra is Indra, not an incarnate. Indra obtaining his brother's dna is useless because they both share the same blood just like they do with their father.

Ashura obtained rsm, but he didn't have ten gudodama's floating behind him with his father's staff, did he?
The answer is no.
Hagoromoo and Haruma obtaining their mother's chakra didn't give them rinne-sharingan/sharingan, did it?
The answer is no.

So him having his father's chakra doesn't immediately give him the rinnegan. Madara wasn't the only incarnate to mix ashura+indra's. Black zetsu said he approached every other incarnate to do it, and they all falled to awaken the rinnegan:

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Madara was the only Indra incarnate with six path chakra to awaken the rinnegan.
So awakening the rinnegan is very rare.

Thats mean Indra never inherit Hago Six Path chakra but he inherit A chakra that very powerful(potent)and massive.
The chakra every Uchiha have now.

Read above

 

[Ansatsuken]

Nobody has shown Hagormoo's ability. The only thing he shown was yin yang chibakui tensei, summoning justu, and a soul appearance technique (something Dan and Tobirama can do).

And nagato's ability (which I assume you call Hagormoo) has been shown by no other rinnegan user but nagato. So asking why kaguya hasn't shown those abilities of nagato is like asking why hasn't Sasuke, Madara, or Obito who had rinnegans display this kind of abilities. (And don't use that Chibakui tensei=All of six path ability assumption, it's all fanfic that was never mentioned in the manga).



Kaguya is the evolution of chakra. Just look at momoniski, he's of ootsuki clan with a rinnegan. Everyone has their own unique chakra, even the ones that have the rinnegan. So just as kaguya, Rinnegan Madara himself has his own six path chakra unique to him as well. And as the manga stated multiple times:

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Hagormoo was born with his mom's chakra in him. Without her chakra being born within his body, he would not have the rinnegan.



Haruma does not have a sharingan on his forehead, so no. And each child gets 50/50 from the parents.



And that's why it is an assumption and not a manga fact. So let's keep it that way.
It's clearly not a Byakugan+Rinn Sharingan considering that

1. Kaguya's sharingan is stronger than both her son's doujustus

2. Rinnegan has absolutely 0% uses of hyuuga taijustu techniques as well as the sharingan.


Before I go on, you said that Kagauya cannot have Hagormoo's direct chakra. You do realize that the same thing is for Madara right? he's a long descendant on one side of the Uchiha.

Not to answer that question is simple too.

Indra inherited his father's strong chakra AND spiritual energy.
While Ashura was born with sage's physical energy AND stamina(longevity).

Important: Now here's the best part the nobody thought about. Indra is Indra, not an incarnate. Indra obtaining his brother's dna is useless because they both share the same blood just like they do with their father.

Ashura obtained rsm, but he didn't have ten gudodama's floating behind him with his father's staff, did he?
The answer is no.
Hagoromoo and Haruma obtaining their mother's chakra didn't give them rinne-sharingan/sharingan, did it?
The answer is no.

So him having his father's chakra doesn't immediately give him the rinnegan. Madara wasn't the only incarnate to mix ashura+indra's. Black zetsu said he approached every other incarnate to do it, and they all falled to awaken the rinnegan:

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Madara was the only Indra incarnate with six path chakra to awaken the rinnegan.
So awakening the rinnegan is very rare.


Read above

You think too hard here and anything you post here is only "what you think right" or more precisly your own "logic". Nothing can be used here to counter someone that used his own "logic" and think its true and all people should accept it.

You think by posting some scans can help support your case here?. Sometimes scan not always can help, when the scan can be too vague and intrepreted in numbers of ways bcus author never locked any statements said by his characters in detail and leave a room for assumption(like you did here).

Thats why here for the first time I said to you, "I Dont like to use any assumption/logic". But you here using more assumption than me and not a facts.

I already gave you an example that you can understand and applied little logic in it. The fact is only Hagoromo's chakra that you obtained from Indra+Ashura chakra or from Hagoromo himself can give you Rinnegan eyes.

You also said every Six Path users is unique. Hagoromo is one of it. And rinnegan chakra is unique to Hagoromo only and not Hamura or Kaguya. You even agree with my idea that Hagoromo have his own Six Path chakra traits and different from other Six Path chakra users.

Anything other than that(Juubi chakra) is not true VariaXboss. You can used your logic to twist manga facts but in the end you only see a failure on your side.

I will not reply your next comment bcus you're to far reaching.

 

[VongolaX]

You think too hard here and anything you post here is only "what you think right" or more precisly your own "logic". Nothing can be used here to counter someone that used his own "logic" and think its true and all people should accept it.

1. precisely

2. Your stubbornness is why you cannot make light of is in plain sight here. You need to learn how to read the manga instead of pushing baseless assumptions around as facts. That's what you call logic

You think by posting some scans can help support your case here?. Sometimes scan not always can help, when the scan can be too vague and intrepreted in numbers of ways bcus author never locked any statements said by his characters in detail and leave a room for assumption(like you did here).

1. interpreted and because

2. There is no misinterpretation when it comes to the manga. It written there in bold letters. Not once could you provide any kind of solid evidence. The manga stated word for word that Indra inherited his fathers strong chakra, plan and simple as that. And now you're spouting nonsense about interpretation? I hope you are not serious.

Thats why here for the first time I said to you, "I Dont like to use any assumption/logic". But you here using more assumption than me and not a facts.

It's not an assumption when you see a manga scan right in front of your face. Especially when I quote it word for word.
So there's no one assuming here but you. Not only do you lack the resources/manga scan to back your argument. You use people's assumption as a retort.

Kakashi even called rinnegan as "a mutation". People assume it came from a combination of Byakugan+Rinn Sharingan.

^^ A direct quote from you. So your little lying game isn't going to get you far when evidence is right n front of your face.
You are the one assuming here.

I already gave you an example that you can understand and applied little logic in it. The fact is only Hagoromo's chakra that you obtained from Indra+Ashura chakra or from Hagoromo himself can give you Rinnegan eyes.

There is no logic in it. Especially when many other people inherited or was bestowed Hagormoo's chakra and awakened no rinnegan. Even momoniski which a repeated so many times, did not mix Indra+ashura's chakra. Hagormoo never gave anybody a rinnegan either. So this little fiction he have mapped out in your head should stay there.

You also said every Six Path users is unique. Hagoromo is one of it. And rinnegan chakra is unique to Hagoromo only and not Hamura or Kaguya. You even agree with my idea that Hagoromo have his own Six Path chakra traits and different from other Six Path chakra users.

Every person has unique chakra even the ones that awakened their own rinnegan. So there's no point in bringing this up.

Anything other than that(Juubi chakra) is not true VariaXboss. You can used your logic to twist manga facts but in the end you only see a failure on your side.

That is not my username kid. So whatever you 2014 kids talk about behind my back, make sure it stays within those petty private messages. Got it?

And shouldn't be repeating myself if you are failing to read the fine print on kishi's work.
If hagormoo said his son inherited his father's chakra, then clearly he has it <---- You're say is nile.
If the manga says Kakashi was strengthened by Rikudou's chakra, then guess what? It's still his chakra period.

I will not reply your next comment bcus you're to far reaching.

You're clearly incapable of basic reading skills. You're done here.
Just because I don't buy into your baseless speculations, doesn't mean you rant off and post shit like this here.