Hagoromo was Yang and Hamura was Yin.

[davidou]

-That parallel between Hagoromo+Hamura and Naruto+Sasuke:

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-That symbol on Hago's right hand when he was "young":

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Is that supposed to mean that Naruto=Hagoromo=Yang ; and Sasuke=Hamura=Yin?



Yin=left ; Yang=right.
Everytime that we see Yin/Yang items on a draw , the Yang part is drawn at the left side of the draw (represents right) and the Yin part is drawn at the right side of the draw (represents left).

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Are the 2 last draws representing Hagoromo (drawn at the left= Yang) and Hamura (drawn at the right= Yin)?
Before that chapter , I thought that Hamura was Yang and that Hago was Yin and became Yin/Yang after.

The parallel shown in the last chapter (and the Yang symbol on the young Hago's hand in chapter 680) seems to bring the contrary.
What do you think about it?

 

[Ashura San]

They both most likely possessed both. Didn't Hago use COAT? You need both Yin and Yang for that.

 

[Tobi98]

Indra- Yin
Ashura- Yang
Hagoromo- Yin Yang
Hamura- Who knows

 

[Zantos]

They both most likely possessed both. Didn't Hago use COAT? You need both Yin and Yang for that.

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[dark legion]

hagoromo shared to Sasuke Yin ,,, and u're saying he doesn't have yin power ?!!

they had both of them Yin-Yang

 

[Forbidden Tale]

It's possible, but how could Hagaromo gave Sasuke's yin power, if he don't have one? Or did he learn them later on. He also used Creation of All thing (Yin + Yang).

 

[davidou]

They both most likely possessed both. Didn't Hago use COAT? You need both Yin and Yang for that.

Yep I thought about that too , but in this case why make a parallel between Hago+Hamura and Naruto+Sasuke?

It's possible that Hago became Yin/Yang during his life.
He could have been only Yin or only Yang before becoming Yin/Yang and able to use COAT.

 

[Urda]

That that was obvious. Parallel of Yin and Yang of Naruto and Sasuke to the Sage of Six Paths and his Brother. Although, Kaguya recognized Ashura and Indra Chakra.

 

[Seventh Sama]

I guess, hamura did transfer his yin power to hagoromo... I agree

 

[davidou]

Indra- Yin
Ashura- Yang
Hagoromo- Yin Yang
Hamura- Who knows

It's possible that Hago became Yin/Yang during his life.
He could have been only Yin or only Yang before becoming Yin/Yang and able to use COAT.

this !!
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It's possible that Hago became Yin/Yang during his life.
He could have been only Yin or only Yang before becoming Yin/Yang and able to use COAT.

hagoromo shared to Sasuke Yin ,,, and u're saying he doesn't have yin power ?!!

they had both of them Yin-Yang

It's possible that Hago became Yin/Yang during his life.
He could have been only Yin or only Yang before becoming Yin/Yang and able to use COAT.

It's possible, but how could Hagaromo gave Sasuke's yin power, if he don't have one? Or did he learn them later on. He also used Creation of All thing (Yin + Yang).

It's possible that Hago became Yin/Yang during his life.
He could have been only Yin or only Yang before becoming Yin/Yang and able to use COAT.

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

That or hamura had yin+yang also or he was wuji the absence of both yin and yang

 

[davidou]

That that was obvious. Parallel of Yin and Yang of Naruto and Sasuke to the Sage of Six Paths and his Brother. Although, Kaguya recognized Ashura and Indra Chakra.

If you look at the answers of the members , you'll understand that it isn't that obvious for everybody.
I'm glad to see that there are good readers here.

I guess, hamura did transfer his yin power to hagoromo... I agree

That's the most probable hypothesis that I can think of now.
I agree too.

 

[davidou]

That or hamura had yin+yang also or he was wuji the absence of both yin and yang

Interesting.
How could Naruto be representing tai ji (Yin/Yang or Grand ultimate) , and how could Sasuke be representing wuji (the void)?
Naruto would represent creation and Sasuke destruction.

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

The absence of yin and yang is actually kind of complicated to understand as how can one be devoid of both spiritual and physical presence to do that you'd have to ascend to a level that is neither physical nor spiritual which btw is nigh not humanly possible.

Naruto is yang and sasuke is yin it doesn't make sense if hagoromo gave Naruto his yang and if he got him from hamura then that goes to sasuke. Hagoromo+hamura=kaguya yet Naruto and sasuke have displayed no feats as to then equalling kaguya. So no hagoromo had yin and yang which he gave to sasuke and Naruto he got nothing from his brother otherwise sasuke and Naruto realistically should be stronger than kaguya if not equal.

hagoromo's brother is difficult to explain then again simplistic. When kaguua looked at Naruto and sasuke people make the assumption that it was hagoromo and hamura but READ AGAIN she made that assumption because she didn't concentrate at first notice how she flickered and clarified it wasn't them. My statement is reinforced by the recent chapter BOTH Naruto and sasuke remind her of her sons which is what she saw when she first looked at the two she had to flicker to clarify it wasn't them.

you guys can't just make the assumption hagoromo is yang just because you saw his right arm...thats not good analysis that's like saying I see naruto's left arm and nothing us there so he doesn't have the sun mark whereas the sun mark is on his RIGHT arm so you'd have to see the left arm too. Plus she had that flashback WHILE looking at Naruto so of course that'd happen.

in any event hagoromo had both yin and yang and hamura most likely had wuji it the same as hagoromo both yin/yang. Js though I further reinstate my point that when the sage's sons descriptions were given and when the sage had sons they gained moves from their father I doubt hamura gave him anything. If anything hamura gave hagoromo the tools and the sword of nunboku I think the sages weapons may originate to hamura no manga proof for that just guessing.

and yes that would mean Naruto represents creation as he wants to preserve life as he did to kakash's eyes. And sasuke destruction naturally they are just opposites nice analogy though.

 

[davidou]

Naruto is yang and sasuke is yin it doesn't make sense if hagoromo gave Naruto his yang and if he got him from hamura then that goes to sasuke. Hagoromo+hamura=kaguya yet Naruto and sasuke have displayed no feats as to then equalling kaguya. So no hagoromo had yin and yang which he gave to sasuke and Naruto he got nothing from his brother otherwise sasuke and Naruto realistically should be stronger than kaguya if not equal.

hagoromo's brother is difficult to explain then again simplistic. When kaguua looked at Naruto and sasuke people make the assumption that it was hagoromo and hamura but READ AGAIN she made that assumption because she didn't concentrate at first notice how she flickered to clarify it wasn't them. My statement is reinforced by the recent chapter BOTH Naruto and sasuke remind her of her sons which is what she saw when she first looked at the two she had to flicker to clarify it wasn't them.

you guys can't just make the assumption hagoromo is yang just because you saw his right arm...thats not good analysis that's like saying I see narito's left arm and nothing us there so he doesn't have the sun mark whereas the sun mark is on his left arm so you'd have to see the left arm too. Plus she had that flashback WHILE looking at Naruto so of course that'd happen.

in any event hagoromo had both yin and yang and hamura most likely had wuji it the same as hagoromo both yin/yang. Js though I further reinstate my point that when the sage's sons descriptions were given and when the sage had sons they gained moves from their father I doubt hamura gave him anything. If anything hamura gave hagoromo the tools and the sword of nunboku I think the sages weapons may originate to hamura no manga proof for that just guessing.

I understand your point , that is one of the themes of the manga , divided powers cooperating>one guy with all those powers.

Hagoromo+Hamura didn't win against Kaguya , they just sealed her , it's probable that Kaguya>Hago+Hamura.
Naruto alone is rivalizing with Kaguya , Sasuke knows about a jutsu able to seal Kaguya , Sasuke and Naruto are not used to these new powers.
Naruto+Sasuke (and maybe team 7) have the potential to be stronger than Kaguya.
When you say :"sasuke and Naruto realistically should be stronger than kaguya if not equal." , they are almost equal for now , and they probably have the potential to become stronger.



You misread , I never said that Hago's Yang symbol is a proof that he was only Yang.
I just bring that draw here to correlate with the parallel Kishimoto made in the last chapter:
The fact that we don't see his left hand makes possible the fact that he had no symbol on this hand at that moment.



Your hypothesis could be right like I said in my first answer about your first post , your hypothesis is interesting.
The fact that you could be right doesn't mean that I'm wrong.
You didn't counter my hypothesis.

 

[Cassus]

Maybe during or after the sealing Hamura died and passed his yin power/tatoo onto Hagoromo. So we'd have to assume Hamura had a litter of byakugan kids before said sealing. Hagoromo would have to have Ashur and Indra after that then?

 

[davidou]

Maybe during or after the sealing Hamura died and passed his yin power/tatoo onto Hagoromo. So we'd have to assume Hamura had a litter of byakugan kids before said sealing. Hagoromo would have to have Ashur and Indra after that then?

That's the most probable hypôthesis for me now.


I thought that Hamura was Yang because of all the Yang type clans that seems to be related to the sage without being his descendance.

If Hamura was Yang , that would explain why Tsuchikages are Yang , Kin/gin are Yang , Uzumakis are Yang , Juugo clan is Yang , Kaguya clan is Yang...
They were Hamura's descendance ans were dispatched around the world.

If Hamura was Yin , like it seems to be shown in chap 681 , I wonder what is the story of all those Yang type clans.

 

[Hidari]

Maybe Hagoromo was a wielder of Yin + Yang and Hamura was a ...

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Taijutsu user

XD

 

[davidou]

Maybe Hagoromo was a wielder of Yin + Yang and Hamura was a ...

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Taijutsu user

XD

Great , his Byakugans made him able to make taijutsu a great weapon.

The problem is that the parallel that Kishimoto made would have no meaning (maybe the meaning is: hagoromo thinks like Naruto and Hamura thinks like Sasuke).

 

[Tehral]

What if hagoromo only had one and got the other from his brother as he died against the 10 tailed?