Hagoromo Ootstuski at his death bed > Prime Hiruzen

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Hello guys, I would like to prove and point that even counting Hype around Prime Hiruzen is not enough to come even close to SOSP.

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HE WAS THE STRONGEST AMONG THEM,

Bold, just take a look at mountains behind him and you will know pff... Kishi meant among HOKAGES FOOL !

Here is also Reason why Prime Hiruzen was thought by people to be the strongest in his Prime age:

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^^ Kabuto explains that well: "The people that heard about Hashirama's Strength consider him as Fairy Tale just like The Rikudou Sennin".

Hiruzen can use every technique in JUST KONOHA:

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funny, Sage can do ANY technique:

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^^ Mangaphux ;)

Prime Hiruzen was God of Shinobi:

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... pff Sage was as well:

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Who did fight against Juubi and save the world ?

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^^ of course you are not blind and can see Lol

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^^ Sage could turns his thoughts into reality by breathing life in form created from nothing.

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"Don't judge me by your usual standards" - Obito's quote lel

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^^"Hokages just look pathetic compared to what I am now"

OWNED hahaha, I can't stop laugh when I imagine your facial expression now ;)

PRIME HIRUZEN FEAT: NOTHING

RIKUDOU SENNIN's FEAT ON HIS DEATHBED:
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Creation of the MOON > anything PRIME HIRUZEN HAS TO OFFER

^^THESE ARE ALL MANGA FACTS

Thanks for reading !

Maybe now it will stops some fanboys to not claim bullshit or their wet dreams.
 
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with things you've explained sir !

Rikudu at his death bed >>> Naruto
you mad man !?

ok, whatever..
 

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Was this even up for debate???

Lol according to some members yes... but from logical point of view as well as most people's view I am just stating obvious ;)

Let's say I wanted to restabilish The facts ;)

with things you've explained sir !

Rikudu at his death bed >>> Naruto
you mad man !?

ok, whatever..

Glad you read and came to this conclusion ;)

Of course you are right :p
 

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SO6P was born lucky, his mom eating the fruit and was born with this godlike strength,

Hiruzen did all what SO6P did by himself
 

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SO6P was born lucky, his mom eating the fruit and was born with this godlike strength,

Hiruzen did all what SO6P did by himself

excuses, excuses everywhere lel

SOSP was not lucky... as he just got chakra same as Hiruzen had it since the birth.

SOSP just lucky ? pff SOSP WAS FIRST to discovered all secrets behind chakra and found out Ninjutsu himself

Hiruzen ? was taught Ninjutsu by Tobirama and Hashirama when Ninjutsu was already estabilished

SOSP was not born with Rinnegan but had to awaken it... besides SOSP had not luxury of long training as Juubi was searching for him, while Hiruzen was growing up and developing safely in village.

Now, do you get my point ? Sorry but you are wrong sir ;/

hiruzen isnt even worth to be compared to rikudo

Well most likely even at his best as Prime Hiruzen as he at the most at #10th place in top 10. Of course not yet... but with more feats this is the best place he can get.

lol current sakura > prime hiruzen.

Lol No... even with one last feat Hiruzen is above her and that is Old Hiruzen.
 

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I agree...also Hiruzen and Hashirama were called God of Shinobi. In that scan Obito says he was "worshipped" as if he was a REAL God. Imo The Rikudou at his greatest>NV.
 

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Oh god, you took that's guy's post so serious when he was only joking. Grow up.
 

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Itachi > SO6P, Prove me wrong!
I give you 5 minutes.
 

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I agree...also Hiruzen and Hashirama were called God of Shinobi. In that scan Obito says he was "worshipped" as if he was a REAL God. Imo The Rikudou at his greatest>NV.

^^ Exactly ;), Glad to see more logical people who are not living in denial ;)

I would rep you if I could but I can NOT for now ;/
 

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Lol No... even with one last feat Hiruzen is above her and that is Old Hiruzen.

was pure sarcasm mate honestly tho you didn't need to make a thread about this its obvious
 

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^^ Exactly ;), Glad to see more logical people who are not living in denial ;)

I would rep you if I could but I can NOT for now ;/

Hagoromo destroys Prime Hiruzen even after death, as a ghost.

Exactly ;), glad you reply here

Oh god, you took that's guy's post so serious when he was only joking. Grow up.

Whatever, I am just stating facts ;)

Itachi > SO6P, Prove me wrong!
I give you 5 minutes.

Sorry but this is not how you are doing in debate. The burden of proof is on your side to proog that Itachi is above SOSP lel

I already posted manga facts why SOSP is above everyone

was pure sarcasm mate honestly tho you didn't need to make a thread about this its obvious

Fine then, But at least it would be something stopping fanboys from mindlessly posting new threads with wet dreams about characters.
 

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excuses, excuses everywhere lel

SOSP was not lucky... as he just got chakra same as Hiruzen had it since the birth.

SOSP just lucky ? pff SOSP WAS FIRST to discovered all secrets behind chakra and found out Ninjutsu himself

Hiruzen ? was taught Ninjutsu by Tobirama and Hashirama when Ninjutsu was already estabilished

SOSP was not born with Rinnegan but had to awaken it... besides SOSP had not luxury of long training as Juubi was searching for him, while Hiruzen was growing up and developing safely in village.

Now, do you get my point ? Sorry but you are wrong sir ;/



Well most likely even at his best as Prime Hiruzen as he at the most at #10th place in top 10. Of course not yet... but with more feats this is the best place he can get.



Lol No... even with one last feat Hiruzen is above her and that is Old Hiruzen.

True he was the one who unlocked the secrets ect i get that, but that doesn't change the fact that he was born with the HOLY POWER and so did his mom
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Now if we compare Hashirama and Tobirama, they are brothers and both from Senju clan, yet Hashirama was the legendary one, meanwhile nobody gives a rat about Tobirama, why? because Hashirama was born lucky to begin with. get it?

meanwhile Hiruzen mastered the "Five Elements" by himsself, and he posses rinnegan feat, despite him not having it
 

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True he was the one who unlocked the secrets ect i get that, but that doesn't change the fact that he was born with the HOLY POWER and so did his mom
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Now if we compare Hashirama and Tobirama, they are brothers and both from Senju clan, yet Hashirama was the legendary one, meanwhile nobody gives a rat about Tobirama, why? because Hashirama was born lucky to begin with. get it?

meanwhile Hiruzen mastered the "Five Elements" by himsself, and he posses rinnegan feat, despite him not having it

Of course don't need to be mad ;). I respect and acknowledge Hiruzen's feat of using five elements AS REALLY GREAT.

I am actually looking forward to see more from him as well... but without "special powers", hidden techniques among clan - yes I am fine with him using them.

You have point, although I would like to see more from Tobirama as well. However you made one mistake: It was Sage's mother who gained HOLY POWER, nothing is stated about SOSP having it... except that he was born with chakra already in him.

EDIT: Do you know why Hiruzen got God of shinobi tittle ?, because he mastered every basic skill and is able to use it at GODLY Level, while utilising these basic skills without SPECIAL POWER at Godly levels with shadow clones HE IS ABLE TO PULL MANY DEADLY AND VERY POWERFULL COMBINATIONS OF ATTACKS which can win against hax attack. There is many possibilities of combination attacks as Hiruzen knows and can perfrom so many techniques according to manga.
 
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