Hagoromo is beyond everyone in NV.

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He's featless by design, if Kishimoto showed us too much of Hagoromo's omnipotence it would take away focus from the main characters, Naruto and Sasuke. The show is about Naruto and his journey, not Hagoromo's journey.

If we simply use our imagination a litte bit we see how limitless Hagoromo's powers really where. The mere fact that he created the tailed beasts from his own imagination and cast a chibaku tensei the size of the moon is staggering. He created Ninhuu/Ninjutsu, shaped the world with his teaching and the Sword of Nunoboko.

Sasuke at his prime created a pretty nice chibaku tensei, but Hagoromo created something 100000 times bigger while in his deathbed.... The moon is 1,737.5 million kilometers in radius and weighs about 7.35 x 10 Factor OF 22 kg.
Thats just stupendously large. Something likle that would require the user to have unimaginable strength. And Hagoromo had just that.

We know little or nothing about the powers of COAT, also he is the only one to be a completely master the Rinnegan. Who knows what unknown secrets lie inside the Rinnegan.
COAT is in theory infinitely more potent than IT. IT is restricted by physical paramaters. COAT is up to the users abstract imagination and has no limits. You can compare it to making every and any dream/though become a reality with the mare flick of your finger.

The entire premise of the manga exists only beacause Hagoromo created the tailed beasts from him imagination. He created life.

One part of me is glad that we never saw Hagoromo's powers, it leaves alot up to our imagination. It was the right move by Kishi.


He transcended time, life and space, and by doing so save the very world he once created.

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Hagoromo needed Hamura to create the moon and he didn't do it on his death bed. Nice try though.

He didn't create Ninjutsu, and Ninshuu failed. Should i go on?

He admitted inferiority to Kaguya.
 
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Hence him being called The Sage of the Six Paths.

....duh
 

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Uh, Kaguya and JJ 3 Rinnegan eyed Madara? Do they ring a bell? Plus, Kurama said with the bijuu power, Sasuke is on his level.
 

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Prime Hagoromo (as in Juubi Jin) negs anyone in NV save Kaguya.
 

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Prime Hagoromo (as in Juubi Jin) negs anyone in NV save Kaguya.

Yes, correct. When it comes to Kaguya, she's just a powerhouse, head to head with brute power anyone looses to her, but she's just a powerhouse, nothing more. She bearly has half a brain. Hagoromo would take her out with great ease using COAT and other Rinnegan techs.
 

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Yes, correct. When it comes to Kaguya, she's just a powerhouse, head to head with brute power anyone looses to her, but she's just a powerhouse, nothing more. She bearly has half a brain. Hagoromo would take her out with great ease using COAT and other Rinnegan techs.

You can dislike my comment all you want, but it's the truth.
 

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Sasuke negs him
 

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Yep, Hagoromo > every1. I still can't comprehend why people believe that Kaguya could take on Hagoromo ?
I mean she has Byakugan and no brain, Hagoromo has Rinnegan with a lot of brain XD
 

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Yes, correct. When it comes to Kaguya, she's just a powerhouse, head to head with brute power anyone looses to her, but she's just a powerhouse, nothing more. She bearly has half a brain. Hagoromo would take her out with great ease using COAT and other Rinnegan techs.

True, but Hagoromo still can't defeat her alone as far as we know (by defeating I mean either killing her (which ain't possible) or sealing her). That's why I said what I said :)
 

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Hagoromo needed Hamura to create the moon and he didn't do it on his death bed. Nice try though.

He didn't create Ninjutsu, and Ninshuu failed. Should i go on?

He admitted inferiority to Kaguya.

^This! Hagoromo was so underwhelming.. Should have remained a legend
 

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Kaguya is above Hagaromo by feats and portrayal, so no.
 

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Well his potential seems bottomless, but so was Kaguya.

The difference is Hagoromo's wisdom and intelligence > Kaguya's wisdom and intelligence.

However by portrayal of manga and feats Kaguya is above Hagoromo.

Although by Hype JJ Hagoromo is only second to Prime Kaguya(which had Tenseigan also according to the new info from the last the movie.)

Prime Kaguya(Double Tenseigan + RinneSharingan) >> JJ Hagoromo ~ Kaguya
 

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Madara can equally fight, and potentially defeat him with superior intellect and warfare experience.
 

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Madara can equally fight, and potentially defeat him with superior intellect and warfare experience.

Amount of skills: JJ Madara > JJ Hagoromo
Power of skills: most likely JJ Hagoromo above
Amount of chakra: JJ Hagoromo > JJ Madara
Battle experience: JJ Madara > JJ Hagoromo
Generally: It depends from these points:

1) How SM dual Rinnegan RT Madara compares to Pre-Jinchurki Hagoromo ?
2) How much Yin Kurama makes of Complete Ten tails ?
3) Can Madara use any abilities with his Third eye
4) Would JJ Hagoromo learn fast to use KKG, KKT elemental techniques as Madara did (I think he could)
5) Would Madara's battle experience makes up for the gap of chakra/power advantage of Hagoromo ?

Depending from answers on these questions we can decide. I guess JJ Hagoromo >=JJ Third eye Madara

In my mind answers are: 1) Pre Jinchurki Hagoromo >= SM dual rinnegan Madara, 2) Well around 15% to 20%
3) No, he can not, 4) Probably xD, 5) Well most likely
 

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Well his potential seems bottomless, but so was Kaguya.

The difference is Hagoromo's wisdom and intelligence > Kaguya's wisdom and intelligence.

However by portrayal of manga and feats Kaguya is above Hagoromo.

Although by Hype JJ Hagoromo is only second to Prime Kaguya(which had Tenseigan also according to the new info from the last the movie.)

Prime Kaguya(Double Tenseigan + RinneSharingan) >> JJ Hagoromo ~ Kaguya

Proof?

@bold: Stop wanking. We've been over this and you've failed to bring proof of the bold, each and every time.
 
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