Hagoromo Gave Sasuke Power Even Though He's Evil

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This is a thread about Hagoromo giving sasuke power knowing he's evil, Naruto and sasuke's power differential, and naruto and sasuke have ninshuu.

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Informing Naruto that his son Asura's will was reincarnated into him, Hagoromo also notes that Sasuke had inherited INDRA'S WILL as well.
This theory also left me to believe a couple more things.
1. He gave Naruto more power than sasuke when they both met the sage.
.Hagoromo stated he believes in Ashura/Naruto's way of living. He also knows Indras will is in sasuke which means that the battle between them is inevitable just like the previous generations.(Indras will includes never agreeing with Ashura/Naruto's way of living)
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He's been watching naruto so he knows that he can't defeat sasuke, as naruto stated.(Also note that naruto had kurama at this time, him mastering kurama's power was bound to happen. Hagoromo knew he needed more than Kurama just like Ashura needed help with indra)(Also in the fist image)
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2.He had to give Sasuke power only cause he is the only one left able to counter I.T.(Hashi cells mixed uchiha=Rinnegan)
.That's why he gave sasuke only one rinnegan/shinju eye instead of two. That would have put him way past naruto in power.It would have been too much power for just him.

3.Naruto and Sasuke both have ninshuu. That's what naruto has been using when he healed guy and kakashi. Even sasuke can do the same thing or the opposite. Kagya also helped me confirm this in the image at the bottom. They will used ninshuu to weaken Kaguya/Madara and then seal her.
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4.The reason Naruto has more power is the fact he currently has all nine bijuu right now. He is just power housing every obstacle happening lately
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But Hagoromo gave Sasuke the ability to change the Tamoe within his rinnegan.
I believe he did this so that Sasuke can master the techniques of each level of the eye. rinnegan, 3 Tamoe, 6 Tomoe ect.
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To eventually equal Naruto he has to master his PS, Rinnegan eye and EMS. Remember Sasuke's EMS is what about two days old his Rinn is like 20 min old.He also has to master his ninshuu. Naruto already knows how to control tailed beast and they are working with him, he also displayed using ninshuu on gai and kakashi
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Well that's it thanks for reading
 

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Sasuke isn't "evil"
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1. Use freaking spoilers!

2.He ain't evil.
 

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Sasuke is not evil. But yeah he has to master Ems and rinnegan, he has so much potential i'm sure naruto will lost the bijuu's chakra and will only have the powers of the sun.
 
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Can you make a summary and a conclusion?
 

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theres one thing even worse then that

Hagoromo Gave Sasuke Power Even Though He's Retarded

you dont give retarded ppl power, thats just askin for trouble
 

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Hagoromo wouldn't give him a power up if he was. He wants peace. He had a clear anwser only Hagoromo knows.
 

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Sasuke isn't evil fool....if he knew he was evil then why would he still give him the power even though the same thing would happen?

Sasuke and Naruto will fight, but that doesn't mean to the death...
 

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Uhm there are few things that you have misinterperated in this thread:

1) Ninshuu is not nijutsu. It's a philosephy a "nindo" if you will. The Bijuu are not a form of ninshuu. Ninshuu is like Hidan and his way of following the laws of Jashin but Hagoromo would be Jashin in this case.

2.) Sasuke has done some dark things, but he is not inherently Evil. Neither was Indra. Indra grew jealous of his younger brother because their father didn't choose him over Ashura. Indra walked the path of solitude while Ashura walked the path of helping others and being helped in return. Their differences and their inability to accept each others way led to their fued. They were both at fault.

3.) Ashura didn't need help fighting Indra. He needed help from others to reach Indra's level.

4.) Hagoromo gave Sasuke equal parts power to Naruto to keep this imbalance and birth of animosity from springing up in the current and future incarnates of his sons. Their fight with Madara/Kaguya shows that they are working together instead of against each other this time. Will this last? Don't think so, but the chains of history have begun to rust with what Naruto and Sasuke are doing now.
 
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Naruto is Neutral Good and Sasuke is Chaotic Good. While it's obvious that Naruto has pure morals without adhering too much towards the rules or being too antagonistic towards what society has built, Sasuke is fully driven to reform what it is that the ninja world has created, by any means necessary. He intentions are good, as he feels this is what he must do, and the consensus around him agrees that he isn't using his power for evil means.
 

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Uhm there are few things that you have misinterperated in this thread:

1) Ninshuu is not nijutsu. It's a philosephy a "nindo" if you will. The Bijuu are not a form of ninshuu. Ninshuu is like Hidan and his way of following the laws of Jashin but Hagoromo would be Jashin in this case.

2.) Sasuke has done some dark things, but he is not inherently Evil. Neither was Indra. Indra grew jealous of his younger brother because their father didn't choose him over Ashura. Indra walked the path of solitude while Ashura walked the path of helping others and being helped in return. Their differences and their inability to accept each others way led to their fued. They were both at fault.

3.) Ashura didn't need help fighting Indra. He needed help from others to reach Indra's level.

4.) Hagoromo gave Sasuke equal parts power to Naruto to keep this imbalance and birth of animosity from springing up in the current and future incarnates of his sons. Their fight with Madara/Kaguya shows that they are working together instead of against each other this time. Will this last? Don't think so, but the chains of history have begun to rust with what Naruto and Sasuke are doing now.

1. I never compared ninshuu to ninjutsu

2. Your right evil was a bit much, I never stated indra was evil. Hagoromo stated indra didn't except ashura being the successor of ninshuu not because they couldn't get along.

3. I never said ashura needed help from other people while fighting indra. I said naruto/ashura needed to help from the bijuu, the manga proves that.

4. The cycle is never ending the manga also proves that. In no way right now are they equal naruto would crush sasuke right now. Sasuke has to master his eye's first, there's no other way. Sasuke and Naruto are working together to protect two different things. Sasuke is protecting what ever his goal is and naruto the shinobi world. Sasuke understands that he needs naruto right now, after the war is a whole other story. Why would they fight if everything is going to be a happy ending ?? Apparently kishi has other plans for sasuke.
 

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Sasuke isn't evil. His and naruto's views differ that's it.Sasuke has done some wrong things. But so did many others. Naruto has failed to provide any solution to the current problems that the ninja world is facing. He just keeps hoping people will understand each other.

It appears that both of them will eventually repeat the same indra, ashura cycle.
 

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So, you made a thread saying that Hagoromo gave Sasuke power even though he is evel, that made me think that you were gonna elaborate in the thread why you believe that, but instead, you made a crappy explanation on why Naruto > Sasuke.
 

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So, you made a thread saying that Hagoromo gave Sasuke power even though he is evel, that made me think that you were gonna elaborate in the thread why you believe that, but instead, you made a crappy explanation on why Naruto > Sasuke.
It's obvious you didn't read clearly l stated why he gave sasuke the power even though he's not good in the beginning of the thread.
I also said naruto=sasuke
I also said what my thread was about in the opening statement
 

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He's not evil. He wants to change the system in his own way which obv differs from naruto but their goal is essntially the same just their methods conflicting. And naruto will not crush sasuke if they fight now so get that wank out of there.
 

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1. I never compared ninshuu to ninjutsu

2. Your right evil was a bit much, I never stated indra was evil. Hagoromo stated indra didn't except ashura being the successor of ninshuu not because they couldn't get along.

3. I never said ashura needed help from other people while fighting indra. I said naruto/ashura needed to help from the bijuu, the manga proves that.

4. The cycle is never ending the manga also proves that. In no way right now are they equal naruto would crush sasuke right now. Sasuke has to master his eye's first, there's no other way. Sasuke and Naruto are working together to protect two different things. Sasuke is protecting what ever his goal is and naruto the shinobi world. Sasuke understands that he needs naruto right now, after the war is a whole other story. Why would they fight if everything is going to be a happy ending ?? Apparently kishi has other plans for sasuke.

1.)
3.Naruto and Sasuke both have ninshuu. That's what naruto has been using when he healed guy and kakashi. Even sasuke can do the same thing or the opposite. Kagya also helped me confirm this in the image at the bottom. They will used ninshuu to weaken Kaguya/Madara and then seal her.
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These are your words not mine. Maybe you made a mistake but you stated Naruto and Sasuke possess Ninshu and they they are going to use ninshu to defeat Kaguya.

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He's been watching naruto so he knows that he can't defeat sasuke, as naruto stated.(Also note that naruto had kurama at this time, him mastering kurama's power was bound to happen. Hagoromo knew he needed more than Kurama just like Ashura needed help with indra)

Your words again not mine. This makes it sound like what you typed "just like Ashura needed help with Indra.

As for your last point. Just because Sasuke doesn't have bijuu doesn't mean they are not equal. Sasuke's eyes control bijuu. He also has a far stronger form of Rinnegan then even Madars had up to a point. Like Sasuke Naruto still has to master the other bijuu abilities as well. He is not a master of all 9 of them. This isn't as one sided as you think.
 

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Sasuke is neither good or evil
Though his actions can tell another story
 

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3.Naruto and Sasuke both have ninshuu. That's what naruto has been using when he healed guy and kakashi. Even sasuke can do the same thing or the opposite. Kagya also helped me confirm this in the image at the bottom. They will used ninshuu to weaken Kaguya/Madara and then seal her.
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These are your words not mine. Maybe you made a mistake but you stated Naruto and Sasuke possess Ninshu and they they are going to use ninshu to defeat Kaguya.

3)
He's been watching naruto so he knows that he can't defeat sasuke, as naruto stated.(Also note that naruto had kurama at this time, him mastering kurama's power was bound to happen. Hagoromo knew he needed more than Kurama just like Ashura needed help with indra)

Your words again not mine. This makes it sound like what you typed "just like Ashura needed help with Indra.

As for your last point. Just because Sasuke doesn't have bijuu doesn't mean they are not equal. Sasuke's eyes control bijuu. He also has a far stronger form of Rinnegan then even Madars had up to a point. Like Sasuke Naruto still has to master the other bijuu abilities as well. He is not a master of all 9 of them. This isn't as one sided as you think.
1. Like I said I never compared ninshuu to jutsu. Where do you see me comparing them in my words ?
2. Like I said ashura needed help (the bijuu) as I also stated just like naruto.
3. Naruto already knows how to use the bijuu there no different from kurama. And naruto does have all nine beast there shown being givin to him in the image I posted.
 

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Thread maker if that's what u believe then u forgot about the sages words here is the link
 
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