Hagoromo could have stopped Madara on his own

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And that power gap is 50% Kurama... lol.

Key word is Madara WAS a reincarnation of his elder son.. However, he transcended that.

And also, you do realize unlike Rikudou and his sons. Madara was born in battlefield ..... he was raised in battlefield... He lived at when the Clan wars were at their prime.

His mastery over various ninjutsu in battle surpasses Rikudou..



He has the juubi's chakra.. o_O

He seperated the body and the chakra...

Rikudo stated in the manga that Madara is getting closer to his power, not that he has surpassed him. Rikudo is by far the most knowledgeable character in the manga.
 

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Guys this juubi weak sage sealed it n shared his chakra with everyone to make peace ... Full juubi is most shinobi chakra n bijuus chakra ...
Only the sage his bro n mom had chakra that time no one else ...
 

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Rikudo stated in the manga that Madara is getting closer to his power, not that he has surpassed him. Rikudo is by far the most knowledgeable character in the manga.
Thats why he said his younger son, is talentless? Even though he was leading people? yeaaaa.. ok

Rikudou compared Madara to himself when he was a jinchuriki.. why are you not understanding that?

We aren't even talking about that state.. we are talking about when Rikudou wasn't a jinchuriki.....
 

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Thats why he said his younger son, is talentless? Even though he was leading people? yeaaaa.. ok

Rikudou compared Madara to himself when he was a jinchuriki.. why are you not understanding that?

We aren't even talking about that state.. we are talking about when Rikudou wasn't a jinchuriki.....

You failed to understand me again. I was talking about hagoromo post juubi and without the ten tails who Naruto met in his subsconscious. This hagoromo could have ended the war if he was alive since he gave both Naruto and Sasuke powerups that could defeat Madara. Handing powerups of that tier speak for itself of his power. Pre Jin hagoromo doesn't compare of course.
 

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yeah he could
but it would have ruined the story if Hagoromo just came in and soloed Madara
 

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Hagoromo was too scared to fight Madara on his own, because he knows he will be beaten.
 

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We dont know the full extend of Madara's power, nor the Sages. We dont even know how much Naruto and Sasuke have grown.
There is nothing else to say.
 

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Since hagoromo is only a soul, i don;t think he could fight madara
 

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False. Hagomoro who is the "living" chakra has the juubi's chakra in him also.. hence why you see the horns, and etc.

And also, he went in Naruto/Sasuke's mind when they were nearly close to death... So there is no proof of him even being able to confront someone face to face.

Furthermore, Naruto and Sasuke not only have their abilities.. but have the things given to them by Obito and Kabuto.... and then they have rikudou's abilities/powers.

So big difference here.

This. Hagorama is dead...his chakra is still flowing in NV though, that's how powerful he is.

I don't know how you can say naruto & sasuke's power ups are enough to deal with madara...when we haven't seen their new powers, nor have we seen Madara's new powers as juubi host...
 

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but he was too busy sucking madaras c0ck to do anything
 

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Hagormo is no longer the Juubi Jin. We don't know how powerful he was without it. It still took both him and Hamura to defeat Kaguya/Juubi.
 

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How is current Madara above the sage? When Madara can fight the juubi alone -> defeat and split it into 9 bijuu then he will be bettter. Everything he has Sage had.

The sage didnt fight the jyubi alone. And madara reveresed everythin rokudo did so he was equal then he went above by making it his bi*ch and sealing it in bisself effortlessly. Not to mention fighting superior numbers of shinobi simultaneously including kages. Rokudo pales in comparrison to madara. He is probably equal to kaguya or just below her.
 
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