Hagoromo and his brother & Yin and Yang

[Ashura San]

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Make sure you've read the thread posted above before you read this.
I'm piggybacking off that thread.

It states that Hagoromo is the Yin (Moon) and his brother is the Yang (Sun), instead of Indra being Moon and Ashura being Sun.
I'll tell you why I believe the theory in that thread is true.
If you didn't read, it basically says the reason Indra was born stronger than Ashura b/c he got the Yin which Hagoromo was predominant in. Ashura got the Yang from him, which Hagoromo significantly lacked more than his brother.
Go read it, you'll understand.

Now to get to my point, this might be true b/c the most logical descendants of Hagoromo's brother are the Uzumaki and Hyuuga Clans.
The Uzumaki are already born with large massive reserves and a strong body (Yang)
The Hyuuga are born with relatively strong eyes (Yin) but they pale in comparison to Indra's descendants, the Uchiha. They have to work/train to make their eyes better. i.e. increasing distance of Byagugan sight through training, mastery of chakra/chakra points to use gentle fist and rotation (this is directly related to their eyes as they are able to see all chakra points with the byagugan and b/cof their knowledge of where each chakra point, this allows the use of gentle fist and rotation, just incase you thought otherwise). Hagoromo's brother is Yang which is why his descendants who receive this Yang are born stronger than the ones born with Yin.

Hagoromo = Yin
Indra (Yin) > Ashura (Yang)

Hagoromo's brother= Yang
Hyuuga Ancestor (Yin) < Uzumaki Ancestor (Yang)

^ Comparisons are as they are born. Meaning w/o training to equal each others power.

From this we could also conclude
Uchiha = Uzumaki and Senju = Hyuuga once again this is as they are born. And let's be honest, the Senju lucked out with Hashi b/c he is the only reason they were keeping up with the Uchiha.


Both bother's have Yin and Yang, according to the theory I'm going off of. Just one significantly more than the other.

Comment and tell me what you guys think. This is my first time doing this so go easy on me.

 

[Yuse]

nice observation you seem to have very good analyzing skills

 

[dark legion]

yep .. kaguya had byakugan and Rinnegan too which means she separated her power in two ::

Hyuga+ Uzumaki -hagoromo's brother

Sharingan +Senju-Hashirama..


in the end I have a question !!!

Why ashura's reincarnation is an Uzumaki instead a Senju ?

 

[narutobasegod]

yes but his brother had to have had a dojutsu that's my belief what did it skip a generation he didn't get the byakugun but his kid did and the other got his body I think its the same as when the senju and uchiha equal sage which is his rinnegan the uzumaki and hyuga equal his brother but what type of dojutsu did he have was it a stronger form of the byakugan are was it just the byakugan are did he hve the 9tome like his mom are the 6tome like sasuke I want to find out this gold week shit in japan pissed me off aint nobody got time for a week off lol I want to see two manga's a week two episodes a week kishi is pissing me off lol

 

[Ashura San]

nice observation you seem to have very good analyzing skills

Thanks. Appreciate it.

 

[Ashura San]

yep .. kaguya had byakugan and Rinnegan too which means she separated her power in two ::

Hyuga+ Uzumaki -hagoromo's brother

Sharingan +Senju-Hashirama..


in the end I have a question !!!

Why ashura's reincarnation is an Uzumaki instead a Senju ?

I've been trying to figure out the same thing.
It could be b/c there are no more existing Senju and he wanted to keep the transmigration in the family.
If it's not that it completely solos my theory and the one I was going off of and presents the theory that Uzumaki is a descendant of Senju. Which seems less likely but still. :erm:

 

[NukaCola]

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[Colonel Armstrong]

yep .. kaguya had byakugan and Rinnegan too which means she separated her power in two ::

Hyuga+ Uzumaki -hagoromo's brother

Sharingan +Senju-Hashirama..


in the end I have a question !!!

Why ashura's reincarnation is an Uzumaki instead a Senju ?

i think it has something about who truly believe in the will of fire and the curse of hatred that get incarnations...

 

[Ashura San]

i think it has something about who truly believe in the will of fire and the curse of hatred that get incarnations...

I don't know why I didn't think of that. That's most likely it.

 

[NukaCola]

yep .. kaguya had byakugan and Rinnegan too which means she separated her power in two ::

Hyuga+ Uzumaki -hagoromo's brother

Sharingan +Senju-Hashirama..


in the end I have a question !!!

Why ashura's reincarnation is an Uzumaki instead a Senju ?

Name one male Senju alive

 

[Six Paths of Logic]

yep .. kaguya had byakugan and Rinnegan too which means she separated her power in two ::

Hyuga+ Uzumaki -hagoromo's brother

Sharingan +Senju-Hashirama..


in the end I have a question !!!

Why ashura's reincarnation is an Uzumaki instead a Senju ?

The post above state some answers but i think that Minato has some senju blood in him.

Name one male Senju alive

Tsunade is a senju, not to mention there might be some left in the village or other villages, and the senju clan's whereabouts haven't been mention in the manga or anime.

 

[Element Master]

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Not this again
Viz Confirmed it to be Nagato is a blood relative/kin of the senju

yep .. kaguya had byakugan and Rinnegan too which means she separated her power in two ::

Hyuga+ Uzumaki -hagoromo's brother

Sharingan +Senju-Hashirama..


in the end I have a question !!!

Why ashura's reincarnation is an Uzumaki instead a Senju ?

Naruto Shared Ashura's Ideals and he still had the body of the Sage

 

[Ashura San]

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I find it hard to believe that Uzumaki came from Senju. Usually descendants are weaker than their predecessors.The Uzumaki clan have strong bodies, larger chakra reserves, and longevity.

 

[Element Master]

I find it hard to believe that Uzumaki came from Senju. Usually descendants are weaker than their predecessors.The Uzumaki clan have strong bodies, larger chakra reserves, and longevity.

*cough**cough*

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Not this again
Viz Confirmed it to be Nagato is a blood relative/kin of the senju

yep .. kaguya had byakugan and Rinnegan too which means she separated her power in two ::

Hyuga+ Uzumaki -hagoromo's brother

Sharingan +Senju-Hashirama..


in the end I have a question !!!

Why ashura's reincarnation is an Uzumaki instead a Senju ?

Naruto Shared Ashura's Ideals and he still had the body of the Sage

 

[NukaCola]

I find it hard to believe that Uzumaki came from Senju. Usually descendants are weaker than their predecessors.The Uzumaki clan have strong bodies, larger chakra reserves, and longevity.

A fact is a fact

 

[davidou]

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Make sure you've read the thread posted above before you read this.
I'm piggybacking off that thread.

It states that Hagoromo is the Yin (Moon) and his brother is the Yang (Sun), instead of Indra being Moon and Ashura being Sun.
I'll tell you why I believe the theory in that thread is true.
If you didn't read, it basically says the reason Indra was born stronger than Ashura b/c he got the Yin which Hagoromo was predominant in. Ashura got the Yang from him, which Hagoromo significantly lacked more than his brother.
Go read it, you'll understand.

Now to get to my point, this might be true b/c the most logical descendants of Hagoromo's brother are the Uzumaki and Hyuuga Clans.
The Uzumaki are already born with large massive reserves and a strong body (Yang)
The Hyuuga are born with relatively strong eyes (Yin) but they pale in comparison to Indra's descendants, the Uchiha. They have to work/train to make their eyes better. i.e. increasing distance of Byagugan sight through training, mastery of chakra/chakra points to use gentle fist and rotation (this is directly related to their eyes as they are able to see all chakra points with the byagugan and b/cof their knowledge of where each chakra point, this allows the use of gentle fist and rotation, just incase you thought otherwise). Hagoromo's brother is Yang which is why his descendants who receive this Yang are born stronger than the ones born with Yin.

Hagoromo = Yin
Indra (Yin) > Ashura (Yang)

Hagoromo's brother= Yang
Hyuuga Ancestor (Yin) < Uzumaki Ancestor (Yang)

^ Comparisons are as they are born. Meaning w/o training to equal each others power.

From this we could also conclude
Uchiha = Uzumaki and Senju = Hyuuga once again this is as they are born. And let's be honest, the Senju lucked out with Hashi b/c he is the only reason they were keeping up with the Uchiha.


Both bother's have Yin and Yang, according to the theory I'm going off of. Just one significantly more than the other.

Comment and tell me what you guys think. This is my first time doing this so go easy on me.

What I think is in that thread , it is 4 weeks old:

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[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

yep .. kaguya had byakugan and Rinnegan too which means she separated her power in two ::

Hyuga+ Uzumaki -hagoromo's brother

Sharingan +Senju-Hashirama..


in the end I have a question !!!

Why ashura's reincarnation is an Uzumaki instead a Senju ?

There weren't any male Senjus left (And I don't think Ashura would transmigrate to a woman like Tsunade) so he chose the closest possible vessel (from the Sage's brother's bloodline aka cousin)

A fact is a fact

No, it was clearly stated in the Manga that Ashura's descendants were the Senjus only, not Senjus and Uzumakis:

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Same thing applies to the Hyuugas, they didn't descend from Indra or the Uchihas.

 

[NukaCola]

There weren't any male Senjus left (And I don't think Ashura would transmigrate to a woman like Tsunade) so he chose the closest possible vessel (from the Sage's brother's bloodline aka cousin)



No, it was clearly stated in the Manga that Ashura's descendants were the Senjus only, not Senjus and Uzumakis:

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Same thing applies to the Hyuugas, they didn't descend from Indra or the Uchihas.

The Uzumaki's are distant blood relatives of the Senjus, the manga don't mention links with any other clan

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

The Uzumaki's are distant blood relatives of the Senjus, the manga don't mention links with any other clan

Exactly, if they are distant blood relatives to the Senjus then it means they do not share the same Apical Ancestor (Ashura) for if they did they would be close blood relatives, ergo, the Uzumakis did not descend from the Younger Son

 

[davidou]

in the end I have a question !!!

Why ashura's reincarnation is an Uzumaki instead a Senju ?

Why is Naruto called Uzumaki?He should be called Naruto Namikaze.

Imagine the same thing for Minato.He is called Namikaze but his father could be a Senju , there is a thread talking about the similarities between Minato and Tobirama:

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There were 10 Tobirama/Minato threads in 2 years!

Ashura>....>Hashirama>Nawaki>Minato>Naruto.
Indra>......>Madara>Sasuke.
Do you see something coming?


-Naruto birth=Minato's death

-It would fit the timeline if
Minato's birth=Nawaki's death

-It would fit the timeline if
Nawaki's birth=Hashirama's death


-It would fit the timeline if
Sasuke's birth=Madara's 1st death...

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