Hagoromo and Hamura were evil

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Hagoromo and Hamura both sinned against their own mother, sealing her away. You should never disrespect your parents no matter what. I'm not sure of Hamura knew Kaguya was the Juubi, but I'm pretty sure Hagoromo knew. And Black Zetsu is the good son. He spent his entire life trying to revive his mother. He is truly dedicated to his parent.
 

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Hagoromo didn't know. Mangafax
 

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Hagoromo didn't know. Mangafax

doesnt make up for the attempting to destroy the world with the yin-yang seals, releasing 9 giant monsters and permanantly increasing the destructive power of the average person immensely.
 

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doesnt make up for the attempting to destroy the world with the yin-yang seals, releasing 9 giant monsters and permanantly increasing the destructive power of the average person immensely.

I think he already did what you're saying here in the past not just in current time. Think about it.

Human that survived IT but not survived Moon level CT when Hago and Hamura want to sealed Juubi.
 

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And now he knows. But not tried to reason with his mother.

How would he reason with her? He's dead. Kaguya was only after the chakra he had.

doesnt make up for the attempting to destroy the world with the yin-yang seals, releasing 9 giant monsters and permanantly increasing the destructive power of the average person immensely.

I don't think he was attempting to destroy the world. He also wasn't planning on people using chakra and later the Bijuu as weapons
 

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Hagoromo and Hamura both sinned against their own mother, sealing her away. You should never disrespect your parents no matter what. I'm not sure of Hamura knew Kaguya was the Juubi, but I'm pretty sure Hagoromo knew. And Black Zetsu is the good son. He spent his entire life trying to revive his mother. He is truly dedicated to his parent.

This coming from you is not a surprise at all.

You are forcing human moral standards that have been passed through the Bible in our way of life, to an ancient alien who got powerful because of the Tree of Life after his mother ate the Fruit.
 

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Hagoromo and Hamura both sinned against their own mother, sealing her away. You should never disrespect your parents no matter what. I'm not sure of Hamura knew Kaguya was the Juubi, but I'm pretty sure Hagoromo knew. And Black Zetsu is the good son. He spent his entire life trying to revive his mother. He is truly dedicated to his parent.

as son he may be bad/evil
but he has to protract others
 

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How would he reason with her? He's dead. Kaguya was only after the chakra he had.



I don't think he was attempting to destroy the world. He also wasn't planning on people using chakra and later the Bijuu as weapons

whether hagoromo was attempting to bust the world or not, the important thing is that it would have been destroyed. and the Bijuu when not used as weapons are about as safe as godzilla.
 

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whether hagoromo was attempting to bust the world or not, the important thing is that it would have been destroyed. and the Bijuu when not used as weapons are about as safe as godzilla.

I don't recall them actively causing trouble on their own.

Isobu was chilling in a lake until people showed up looking for him.
 

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How would he reason with her? He's dead. Kaguya was only after the chakra he had.



I don't think he was attempting to destroy the world. He also wasn't planning on people using chakra and later the Bijuu as weapons

He can appear beside Naruto and Sasuke. They just need a touch for summoning Hagoromo like what Hashi did to Madara's lower half unintentionally. Look how many times Sasuke and Naruto touched each other in other dimension?
 

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He can appear beside Naruto and Sasuke. They just need a touch for summoning Hagoromo like what Hashi did to Madara's lower half unintentionally. Look how many times Sasuke and Naruto touched each other in other dimension?

I can't imagine reasoning with her though. She would just try to slurp up his chakra smoothie.
 

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I can't imagine reasoning with her though. She would just try to slurp up his chakra smoothie.

At least Hago can asked her what actually her true motives bcus he knows Kaguya very well compare to Naruto and Sasuke and think about a way to solve Kagya dilemma. Kaguya's dilemma was Momoshiki threats. But Hago just let his chance went away.
 

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Hagoromo and Hamura both sinned against their own mother, sealing her away. You should never disrespect your parents no matter what. I'm not sure of Hamura knew Kaguya was the Juubi, but I'm pretty sure Hagoromo knew. And Black Zetsu is the good son. He spent his entire life trying to revive his mother. He is truly dedicated to his parent.

Maybe it's because my Catholic-raised now Athiest parents raised me without religion but...

F*ck that.

Shouldn't disrespect them, no matter what?

The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing

... where they supposed to do nothing whilst their mother enslaved humanity? Your priorities are utterly bizarre. Reeks of hypocrital ass-backward religion.

Yes Zetsu was a "good" son... if mass genocide and war mongering is high up on your list for desirable traits to have in your offspring.
 

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Maybe it's because my Catholic-raised now Athiest parents raised me without religion but...

F*ck that.

Shouldn't disrespect them, no matter what?



... where they supposed to do nothing whilst their mother enslaved humanity? Your priorities are utterly bizarre. Reeks of hypocrital ass-backward religion.

Yes Zetsu was a "good" son... if mass genocide and war mongering is high up on your list for desirable traits to have in your offspring.
If you love your parent you'd do anything to bring them back
 

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If you love your parent you'd do anything to bring them back

No. Love doesn't dictate selfishness.

Bringing them back, for my own benefit would be selfish.

Bringing them back, for their own (nefarious) benefit would be foolish.

Love isn't measured by how many people you're willing to kill in their name, that isn't love - it's stupidity. Sounds a bit like the Holy Crusade here, in His name I will slaughter your people...

How many have died - on either side - because it (war/genocide/murder) was done in the name of "love". Love for God, love for their King or Queen, love for their Country... love for oil?
Bleh.

It doesn't make it right. It's basically throwing away your ability to judge the situation for yourself, clinging on to an ideal that a this "love" somehow makes it okay, or absolves you of your own actions.

Which is bullshit, of course. It doesn't justify it at all.

Ex: Tsunade loved Dan and her brother, but she was not willing to do anything (like restore Orochimaru) to bring them back.
 
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That's a tradition in the clan: the children eat the parents to gain their chakra.

Maybe Kaguya came to escape that cycle, or after having children, defied the ways of her clan and tried to get the chakra back from her kids.

They weren't evil. If anything they disrupted the clan tradition, even though it meant sealing their mother.

They didn't take her chakra into themselves, they sealed it, and dispersed their own chakra through their children.
 
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