Had BSM Naruto surpassed base Hashi?

[take it easy]

Nope, I agree Hashirama is a complete fodder. Tenten > Hashirama.

here my new sig.

 

[shelke]

^ What do you mean? If one power is able to suppress the other, which one is more powerful? Clearly Hashirama's Mokuton single or twin dragons take Naruto out. SM is not even needed. It seems to suppress all forms of Chakra. There is just no getting around it.

 

[Huzaifa]

^ What do you mean? If one power is able to suppress the other, which one is more powerful? Clearly Hashirama's Mokuton single or twin dragons take Naruto out. SM is not even needed. It seems to suppress all forms of Chakra. There is just no getting around it.

Meaning is he better at taijutsu , speed , destructive ability , ninjutsu blah blah. I am not asking who is the better biju slayer.

 

[shelke]

Okay, no he hasn't.

 

[LeSauce]

Hashirama still has this, he's able to literally create anything he wants with mukoton and he has better sensing than Naruto if we count what Madara did.

Hashirama also has more powerful techniques overall and better healing. He is able to fight on par with Madara in taijutsu, while Naruto got blitzed. He also has much better clones and a lot more chakra than Naruto without Kurama.

 

[take it easy]

Hashirama still has this, he's able to literally create anything he wants with mukoton and he has better sensing than Naruto if we count what Madara did.

Hashirama also has more powerful techniques overall and better healing. He is able to fight on par with Madara in taijutsu, while Naruto got blitzed. He also has much better clones and a lot more chakra than Naruto without Kurama.

1. how this help hashi against naruto?
2. sensor feats not count because we talking about base hashi plus naruto has better range than hashi
3. only buddha more powerfull than narutos jutsu... not sure about others jutsu
4. proof that hashi had better healing than naruto
5. by feats narutos bunshins=>hashirama

 

[shelke]

^ Drop it, Spacy. Hashirama is a sensor at Base-Mode as well, which is why his sensing was compared to Tobirama.

 

[Huzaifa]

^ Drop it, Spacy. Hashirama is a sensor at Base-Mode as well, which is why his sensing was compared to Tobirama.

Sensing wise naruto >>>>>>>> everyone. Reason why negative emotion powers.

 

[shelke]

Yet no ability built-up sensing. Okay.

 

[take it easy]

^ Drop it, Spacy. Hashirama is a sensor at Base-Mode as well, which is why his sensing was compared to Tobirama.

ok. show me base hashirama sensor feats which better sage mode/BSM naruto sensor feats and i can agreed with you.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Oh yeah. BSM Naruto is definitely stronger than base Hashirama. Don't know why that's even a shock to some people. However, SM Hashirama is probably stronger, although Naruto would put up a heck of a fight.


Edit: I'm sick of the "Hashi owned Naruto with wood dragon" argument. Do you really think that'll work on Naruto with sage enhanced reflexes? Also, almost all wood style constructions(except for defensive ones) can be destroyed by a TBB.

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Notice how a TBBs kinetic impact and not even an explosion destroyed a wood dragon. In the next to panels, the explosion destroyed the wood god jutsu. If Naruto were to say, aim at Hashirama's feet or fire it as a beam and not a solid orb, there would be no way for him to catch it.

 

[Osagyefo]

BSM Naruto > Base Hashirama
BSM Naruto > SM Hashirama

'nuff said. U_U

 

[shelke]

Yet the second wood-dragon grabbed the tbb and was intact even after the explosion. As Hashirama hid in its mouth.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Yet the second wood-dragon grabbed the tbb and was intact even after the explosion. As Hashirama hid in its mouth.

No. The second one is part of the wood god jutsu. When it exploded, it was destroyed. However, Hashirama managed to create another wood construct. It clearly wasn't a dragon head.

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The dragon head has a long and curved nose.

 

[shelke]

Doesn't look that way to me, but okay. Still doesn't mean that it didn't grab the damn tbb.

 

[Prince Charles]

I would say bsm is stronger but hashirama is simply a perfect counter to naruto.

 

[LeSauce]

Oh yeah. BSM Naruto is definitely stronger than base Hashirama. Don't know why that's even a shock to some people. However, SM Hashirama is probably stronger, although Naruto would put up a heck of a fight.


Edit: I'm sick of the "Hashi owned Naruto with wood dragon" argument. Do you really think that'll work on Naruto with sage enhanced reflexes? Also, almost all wood style constructions(except for defensive ones) can be destroyed by a TBB.

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Notice how a TBBs kinetic impact and not even an explosion destroyed a wood dragon. In the next to panels, the explosion destroyed the wood god jutsu. If Naruto were to say, aim at Hashirama's feet or fire it as a beam and not a solid orb, there would be no way for him to catch it.

Wood Dragon forced Naruto out of BM, that's a fact. It did it while holding Bee as well. Nothing BSM has shown would change that.

There are no better reflexes that he has shown.

100% Kurama did that, Naruto can't considering he only has half the chakra and is considerably smaller.
The explosion didn't destroy anything, that was PS sword. Nothing Naruto has would be a problem Base Hashirama couldn't handle.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Flower three world.
Mokuton absorption and biju binding.
Bigger chakra reserve and BSM burns nardo's chakra darn fast.
Tori gates.

I think base hashi still has very good chances against BSM naruto, Giant FRSs is nardo's only hope.

 

[shelke]

Never mind, they are not the same. Just remembered. The other points still hold though.

 

[take it easy]

Flower three world.
Mokuton absorption and biju binding.
Bigger chakra reserve and BSM burns nardo's chakra darn fast.
Tori gates.

I think base hashi still has very good chances against BSM naruto, Giant FRSs is nardo's only hope.

already beat with rasengan barrage
only wood dragon can absorb chakra
nope.
wherez? its naruto jutsu

Wood Dragon forced Naruto out of BM, that's a fact. It did it while holding Bee as well. Nothing BSM has shown would change that.

There are no better reflexes that he has shown.

100% Kurama did that, Naruto can't considering he only has half the chakra and is considerably smaller.
The explosion didn't destroy anything, that was PS sword. Nothing Naruto has would be a problem Base Hashirama couldn't handle.

sage mode increased all jutsu, speed and reflexes
100% kurama with sage mode which increased all jutsu, speed and reflexes>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>base hashi