Guy's Speed didn't force Madara back

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People are now saying Guy is faster than Minato and Ay V2 due to what he did to Madara.

The thing is.. Guy speed is not what caused MAdara to jump back. It was the pressure and power produced from his punches and kicks that forced Madara back. Taijutsu can severly harm Madara so to be safe Madara simply aimed to avoid devestating kicks and punches from 7th gate guy rather than trying to take them and causing severe damage to himself. If Minato had the 7th gate power behind his attacks then Madara would have been forced back as well.

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why doesnt madara just use rinnegan push to blow him away
 

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why doesnt madara just use rinnegan push to blow him away

Probably because it takes time to prepare the attack, even if it is pretty fast. By the time Madara prepared Shinra Tensei or whatever, Gai could've hit him.
 

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Madara practically needed SM sensing + Rinnegan to avoid it; that's why people say that.
 

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Probably because it takes time to prepare the attack, even if it is pretty fast. By the time Madara prepared Shinra Tensei or whatever, Gai could've hit him.

I think he's talking about the deva path, which Nagato could use every 4 seconds or so I think.
 

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How would speed push him bk anyway he is the ten tails jinchuriki who dodged tobiramas ftg tech and minato's so of course it was the punches
 

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I think he's talking about the deva path, which Nagato could use every 4 seconds or so I think.

I know. Shinra Tensei is what Deva Path uses, right? He can use it on intervals of 5 seconds, but I'm talking about prep time. In the time it could take to use it, Gai would already be hitting. Madara can't get hit, because Taijutsu is his weakness currently, so it's best to just avoid all contact, then counterattack.
 

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Well, it's still Gai's techniques which forced Madara back, right?
 

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....guy is not faster then minato or v2 Ay or tobirama .... That is all
 

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....guy is not faster then minato or v2 Ay or tobirama .... That is all

Madara had to jump back to avoid Gai's attack and then he attacked him. On the other hand, when Minato approached, Madara slammed him right there. And about Tobirama, Madara dodged his kunai before becoming Juubi Jinchuuriki.
Minato Tobirama are called to be faster because of their teleportation/transportation techniques, Physically they aren't even close to Gai's speed. U_U
 

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Heh, another gai speed thread
ot: speed can't push anybody back, only an attack with speed can
 
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Ha...no, no, they said Ay only...no one is that retarded...Minato is still physically the fastest until proven other wise by Kishi himself.

Minato along with Madara were keeping up with Gai...Minato could even tell what jutsu he was doing and Madara was too.

Also Kishi said fastest...teleportation isn't speed...so unless Kishi doesn't know the difference (which I believe he does 99.9%) then everything we know about Naruto is wrong.

Minato the fastest
Madara the best reaction time
Gai physically the strongest (sage mode we don't know)
Hashirama the most durable (and tsunade)
Itachi the smartest (Minato also goes into this)
Naruto the dumbest
Sasuke the most skillful
etc.

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They're speed isn't instant....well I wouldn't even call Minato's speed instant because it isn't, it appears...because if it was then FTG would be...nothing??
 
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Least he forced Madara back. He didn't even flinch against Minato and disrespected him
 
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