Guys I have finally figured it out !!! Juubi, Sage, Sons.

[Sampson]

That's why I never fully believed this theory at first but naruto beat the Kuubi with out the kuubi's chakra just with sage mode. Yes he had help but he still done it. And if the sage was God of shinobi, if naruto can beat nine tails he can beat ten tails !

The sage of six paths created jutsu all together, he did this with the rinnegan. It's not possible to defeat or seal the 10 tails without jutsu.

 

[Maunten]

The sage of six paths created jutsu all together, he did this with the rinnegan. It's not possible to defeat or seal the 10 tails without jutsu.

Where in the story does it state that the sage used the rinnegan to defeat the jubi?

The sage understood chakra before he even fought the jubi, his chakra control was probably absolute giving them the ability to use all the element releases without hand signs, like hohenheim.

With is powerful massive chakra reserves and wisdom he subdued the jubi and sealed it within himself.

 

[Pravin5]

Indirectly. . . . You just Explained how naruto is going to get rinnegan. After Juubi is completly revived in full form. Naruto will be its jinchuuriki and he will remove that hate from juubi & be the Naruto of the Six paths may be Naruto of Nine Paths. Anyways he is going to be beast anyways.

 

[Sampson]

Where in the story does it state that the sage used the rinnegan to defeat the jubi?

The sage understood chakra before he even fought the jubi, his chakra control was probably absolute giving them the ability to use all the element releases without hand signs, like hohenheim.

With is powerful massive chakra reserves and wisdom he subdued the jubi and sealed it within himself.

None of these things were said in the story either! god damn son!

I believe that with the rinnegan he obtained the knowledge to understand chakra and then eventually produce jutsu. As with the rinnegan you can see chakra, it's much more believable that some one could obtain knowledge of chakra if they could actually see it in the first place.

But here's also something to support your opinion,

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It doesn't say that he used the rinnegan to obtain that knowledge so either one of us could be correct here.

But I still think it's more believable that he had the rinnegan at birth and then founded jutsu later on in life as he realised his ab-normal powers.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Great Theory and it sounds very believable

Extracting the Hatred also made a lot of sense

Now that you mention it the 6 tomoe on the Sage's neck removed most of the hatred from the Juubi

and the remaining 3 are the Tomoe on the Sharingan

:sy::sy::sy: How did I not think of that, I didn't even notice that until you just said it which makes this theory a tiny bit more plausible +rep to you

The sage of six paths created jutsu all together, he did this with the rinnegan. It's not possible to defeat or seal the 10 tails without jutsu.

The sage did not create ninjutsu he was first to use ninjutsu and taught other clans about chakra and they created their own secret techs. You do not need rinnegan to use ninjutsu. I believe the sage had all 3 sage modes, ninjutsu and sealing techs. Before he obtained the rinnegan

Indirectly. . . . You just Explained how naruto is going to get rinnegan. After Juubi is completly revived in full form. Naruto will be its jinchuuriki and he will remove that hate from juubi & be the Naruto of the Six paths may be Naruto of Nine Paths. Anyways he is going to be beast anyways.

Hmm I wouldn't say is going to but it is not impossible

 

[Sampson]

The sage did not create ninjutsu he was first to use ninjutsu and taught other clans about chakra and they created their own secret techs. You do not need rinnegan to use ninjutsu. I believe the sage had all 3 sage modes, ninjutsu and sealing techs. Before he obtained the rinnegan

here it says he did.

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[The Hidden Shinobi]

here it says he did.

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Basically everybody has chakra inside them with the sage's knowlegde and skills he was the first to use chakra for ninjutsu. So basically he gave birth to ninjutsu he was the first to use knowledge of chakra for ninjutsu.

But this could simply be done by anyone, why? because the sage went around teaching others how to use chakra to use ninjutsu that means they were always capable of doing so. But they just wasn't as wise as the sage to figure out how to use chakra in such a way.

 

[ChidoriChimp]

Ive actually been thinking that for a while, but was too lazy to post it.

 

[Sampson]

Basically everybody has chakra inside them with the sage's knowlegde and skills he was the first to use chakra for ninjutsu. So basically he gave birth to ninjutsu he was the first to use knowledge of chakra for ninjutsu.

But this could simply be done by anyone, why? because the sage went around teaching others how to use chakra to use ninjutsu that means they were always capable of doing so. But they just wasn't as wise as the sage to figure out how to use chakra in such a way.

All of this is just common knowledge, life force and physical energy = chakra if nobody had chakra well.. nobody would be alive. And exactly don't you think the chances that other people could have founded jutsu before him are extremely high if all you need is knowledge of chakra? That's why I think that it's a higher chance of him being born with the rinnegan and creating jutsu with that. And the fact you say that it could simply be done by anyone backs up my point further.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Ive actually been thinking that for a while, but was too lazy to post it.

Yh all you have to do is look at the juubi's eye and the sharingan and know there is something going on there.

All of this is just common knowledge, life force and physical energy = chakra if nobody had chakra well.. nobody would be alive. And exactly don't you think the chances that other people could have founded jutsu before him are extremely high if all you need is knowledge of chakra? That's why I think that it's a higher chance of him being born with the rinnegan and creating jutsu with that. And the fact you say that it could simply be done by anyone backs up my point further.

Nope he was the first, it's like the guy who invented the wheel he was first, the guy who discovered fire he was first. The guy who made the light bulb he was first. It's like that. It's like you saying isn't it likely that someone created the light bulb before the guy who did, no the guy who did was first. You get my point?

Also the sage was very knowledgeable so he was first to discover how to use this chakra for ninjutsu.

But that is just my theory, he could of been born with it we don't know

 

[Sampson]

Nope he was the first, it's like the guy who invented the wheel he was first, the guy who discovered fire he was first. The guy who made the light bulb he was first. It's like that. It's like you saying isn't it likely that someone created the light bulb before the guy who did, no the guy who did was first. You get my point?

Also the sage was very knowledgeable so he was first to discover how to use this chakra for ninjutsu.

But that is just my theory, he could of been born with it we don't know

Yeah and it's a good one too, I'm just trying to get my point out there.

 

[naruttebayo]

man you did a great job

and i am one of those people who posted a thread which suggest so6p was not born with rinnegan

+ rep

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

man you did a great job

and i am one of those people who posted a thread which suggest so6p was not born with rinnegan

+ rep

Thanks to you as well man it was thought's like that which allowed me to think of this theory.

 

[The God of Wind]

Ive seen this exact same theory somewhere else!

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Ive seen this exact same theory somewhere else!

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Did you not think maybe that theory that you saw was from me :sy: did you look at the date this thread was made

 

[The God of Wind]

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Did you not think maybe that theory that you saw was from me :sy: did you look at the date this thread was made

LMFAO!!xd So sorry man! It was this theory! Ive been smoking too much weed!

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

LMFAO!!xd So sorry man! It was this theory! Ive been smoking too much weed!

Lool it's cool man

 

[cardfan]

Guys I think I finally figured it out, The relationship between the juubi, SO6P and the two sons.
There’s been those who said that the sage wasn’t born with the rinnegan and he obtained it after he sealed the Juubi within himself. Now before I wasn’t completely with this theory but I believed it could be possible. But now in the process of making an AMV I came across the Juubi’s eye and I couldn’t let the fact that the Juubi’s eye looks just like the sharingan but with more tomoe’s, 9 to be exact. I was convinced there had to be some link to this eye and the sharingan in the naruto world today, so I began to think.

Then I thought maybe the sage’s got his eyes from the Juubi and he wasn’t born with it(you know how like when naruto uses the nine tails chakra inside him and his eyes are like the Kyuubi yh like that),, but then I thought well where did the redness and where did the tomoe’s gothe inner circles seem to be there. Then I thought what if the sage removed the evil (Hatred) from the Juubi (the redness and tomoes) and was left with the rinnegan. So I fort so what happen to this evil (hate) obviously you can’t just throw the evil (hatred) away, then I remembered the sage had symbols of red tomoes around his neck. So maybe those red tomoes around the sages neck was because the sage became a burden of that evil (hatred) within the 10 tails. (My theory)

This means that if younger son inherited the “life” force and “physical” energy from the sage this is directly from the sage which would be pure and good from the start. And if the older son inherited the powerful “chakra and”and “spiritual” energy from the sage this chakra and spiritual energy may of contained some of the evil (hatred) from the Juubi. This would automatically affect this child from the from birth and would of dwelled inside him.
It makes so much sense if the bijuu’s are “magical chakra monsters” as tobi said to sasuke then the the “chakra and spirit” of the sage is most likely were the evil (hatred) of the Juubi would be.

The sons were born while the sage had the Juubi in him this is obvious because on the sages death bed, the two sons were about.. well it’s impossible to tell their age (maybe 20 :shrug. Anyway the sage also split the Juubi up into bijuu’s at the time of his death. So if the sons were.. whatever age at this time then the sons must of been born while he had them inside him which supports my theory.

This idea came to me when I came across the juubi’s eye again it looks just like the sharingan but obviously more tomoes, as if the sharingan is a weaker version of this eye. That means there has to be some link. And I think my theory matches up with these links pretty nicely.
I heard a few people on base say one time maybe sasuke will get the final rinnegan the one with 9 tomoes. At first I thought nah there is nothing after Rinnegan but with sasuke’s hatred maybe he will add back the hatred to the rinnegan that the sage removed.

In my opinion sasuke has (or had) more hatred then madara, “my clan doesn’t want to fight no more and I do cry cry cry” *leave village in anger and hatred* he had more reasons than this lol but yh he left in anger and hatred. Well the uchiha are cursed with hatred so I guess anything can make then angry.


Guys I just realised when writing this naruto sometimes has the kyuubi’s eyes but without the redness :O so the sage having the Juubi’s eyes without the redness and removing the the tomoes sounds more believable.

Guys what do you think do you agree or think anything I said is plausible!!!

P.S I couldn’t be bothered to upload pictures and all that hopefully you know what everything I mentioned looks like.(Juubi’s eyes etc..)

only thing i would add is that the nine tails fox was probably where most of the hatred was concentrated because he was originally said to be a living chakra mass of hatred and naruto has the 6 tomoes in BM.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

only thing i would add is that the nine tails fox was probably where most of the hatred was concentrated because he was originally said to be a living chakra mass of hatred and naruto has the 6 tomoes in BM.

Yh I agree and also because I believe the sharingan originates from the juubi's eye this is why I believe people with MS can control the kyuubi.

Another theory which someone said in an early post is that the reason uchiha's can only unlock up to 3 tomoe sharingan is because the sage removed most of the hatred as we can see the 6 tomoes around the sage. So the 3 tomoes is the small amount of hated left in the eye.

That is why after 3t I believe they have to do so called "rituals" to gain more of that power which was taken away.

Just some theories of mine

 

[-Jiten-]

Well that can be possible nice