Guy is second to madara

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Guy is second to madara no doubt, how can you say he is not top 5? If edo madara foddered edo hashi low diff how can hashi take on a 8 gate guy? From what weve seen madara is having trouble facing the 8th gate. Also minato fan boys need to chill out, guy would destroy minato in. An instant. Also if madara is faster than kamui then guy is too. Madara is soo hyped up right now but was looking down on every ninja before 8th gate.

Minato + + kakashi + garaa couldnt even touch madara there for guy >
 

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Guy is second to madara no doubt, how can you say he is not top 5? If edo madara foddered edo hashi low diff how can hashi take on a 8 gate guy? From what weve seen madara is having trouble facing the 8th gate. Also minato fan boys need to chill out, guy would destroy minato in. An instant. Also if madara is faster than kamui then guy is too. Madara is soo hyped up right now but was looking down on every ninja before 8th gate.

Minato + + kakashi + garaa couldnt even touch madara there for guy >

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Because 8th Gate is a suicide technique and people don't count suicide techniques when making their "Top 10" list.
 

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Well you cant place Gai at 2 if he has to suicide to kill the person at 3 no?
 

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Then Minato > SO6P with Reaper Death Seal according to your logic, right?
 

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God not this again! Suicide moves don't count! What the use if the 8 gates kills you after 1 min or so!
 

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Gai isn't second to Madara.

He is using a technique that will take his life after he uses it. Even if he manages to take out Madara, he too will be defeated. So in reality he isn't capable of defeating Madara. At the very best it could be a draw, which judging by the fact that Madara is still standing, that isn't even possible.

If your only way of contending with someone also takes your own life, you can never get a true win against them. For all we know, Gai would have to use 8 gates to defeat Hashi, Juubito, and anyone else under Madara, and if that's the case, then you can't really place Gai above any of them either. So we don't know what Gai's place is.

Technically Hiruzen could beat Madara with Reaper Death Seal. That doesn't mean he's stronger than everyone not named Madara
 

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Then Minato > SO6P with Reaper Death Seal according to your logic, right?

^ this. Sorry I'm not going to put someone further up my "top" list because they have something that guarantees them they will die unless they can kill 100% of the NV before they die.
 

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1.Itachi
2.So6P
3.Madara
4.Guy
5.Tobirama

... and so forth, right?
 

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Gai can't even touch Obito, So lets put Gai at 3.

Suiciding for the win you guys say? No this is not suiciding this is giving up ones life for the climax of the springtime of youth! You cannot rule out Gai's springtime of youth as just suicide and say it is not his power, that is extremely disrespectful to Gai!

Regardless Suiciding, at least when I figure it in is allowed. The suicide with 8 gates grants massive strength that essentially guarantees your victory.

The reaper death seal, while being a suicide technique, doesn't qualify minato or hiruzen to be so high because of what you have to do with the technique to make it work. First you have to catch the person you are fighting and then you have to cut out their soul without them stopping you. This isn't a very useful technique on stronger people, a group of people, or small targets like humans. Gai in 8 gates commits suicide, but becomes a powerhouse capable of taking on large groups and extremely strong people, as well as not having to rely on the process of catching and cutting off a person's soul.

Also to those saying something like, "by that logic then hiruzen or Minato can solo the so6p by his logic", how many times out of 10 or out of 100 or out of 10000000000 do you think that hiruzen or minato will catch the so6p with the reaper death seal? Do you even think they would be able to catch Madara? I don't, with the speed displayed by Minato's slow ass, there is no way in ****ing hell.

Completely different suicide moves.

Just because he dies afterwards, that does not mean he does not win the fight. It means he wins, then dies.

If you want to focus on a top 10 without moves that commit suicide, good for you, just say so.
Most people just state their top 10 and don't give any guidelines, and in that case gai should be top 10 and arguably top 3.
 

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Because 8th Gate is a suicide technique and people don't count suicide techniques when making their "Top 10" list.

So what he dies its a pwer noone outthere can obtain even madara praise the feat himself hes yet to speak down about how he dies ultimately when draind but any way u have to have a already powerful skill to make your 8gate worthy like a 8 gate lee would be demigod level while gai is is god level and if madara get 8 gate (EXAMPLE) he would be on some omnipotent typeshyt. So to sum it up yeah gai is the only capble to compete at the moment causw he have the needs power speed and attacks to fight at a tier with a god. Yall dont take constiration that guy in his firat time form and doin well to control it
 

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Guy can night elephant deidra big bang big hole deep in earth ground by a air cannon>gaint scar on the earth ground so hes dead first then guy dodges both reaper death seals or destroys them with two step elephant hit night elephant destroys konana paper bombs then he stands and enjoy victoy for twenty min and suicide die cause he knew hed be bord as **** alone
 

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Because 8th Gate is a suicide technique and people don't count suicide techniques when making their "Top 10" list.

Exactly this, the thread has been soloed
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Gai can't even touch Obito, So lets put Gai at 3.

Suiciding for the win you guys say? No this is not suiciding this is giving up ones life for the climax of the springtime of youth! You cannot rule out Gai's springtime of youth as just suicide and say it is not his power, that is extremely disrespectful to Gai!

Regardless Suiciding, at least when I figure it in is allowed. The suicide with 8 gates grants massive strength that essentially guarantees your victory.

The reaper death seal, while being a suicide technique, doesn't qualify minato or hiruzen to be so high because of what you have to do with the technique to make it work. First you have to catch the person you are fighting and then you have to cut out their soul without them stopping you. This isn't a very useful technique on stronger people, a group of people, or small targets like humans. Gai in 8 gates commits suicide, but becomes a powerhouse capable of taking on large groups and extremely strong people, as well as not having to rely on the process of catching and cutting off a person's soul.

Also to those saying something like, "by that logic then hiruzen or Minato can solo the so6p by his logic", how many times out of 10 or out of 100 or out of 10000000000 do you think that hiruzen or minato will catch the so6p with the reaper death seal? Do you even think they would be able to catch Madara? I don't, with the speed displayed by Minato's slow ass, there is no way in ****ing hell.

Completely different suicide moves.

Just because he dies afterwards, that does not mean he does not win the fight. It means he wins, then dies.

If you want to focus on a top 10 without moves that commit suicide, good for you, just say so.
Most people just state their top 10 and don't give any guidelines, and in that case gai should be top 10 and arguably top 3.

Madara is way faster than obitos kamui moron, huy would obliterate obito in one hit
 
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