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Guren of the crystal style vs Neji Hyuga of the byakugan
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This thread is putting Guren the crystal style user and Neji Hyuga of the byakugan.
Guren of the Crystal Style
A high prowess ninjutsu and taijutsu user with a unconfirmed Kekkei Genkai and presumed earth style affinity.
Crystal Release Kekkei Genkai
The Crystal Release is a rare and specialised field of elemental ninjutsu that can create crystal as well as manipulate already-existing crystals and crystalline structures. It is seen only in the anime, and its only known user is Guren. Additionally, due to Guren's crystal dragons being shattered by Kakashi's Lightning Cutter and Kiba having mistaken the actual element for an Earth Release technique, it is assumed earth is one of the elements needed to create crystals. According to rumours that Tsunade had heard, Crystal Release can crystallise any substance, thus, earth, water, wood
techniques are useless against it. Using crystal ninjutsu, the user can crystallise any physical material and even the moisture in the air around them, turning them into a weapon. In the case of human targets, Crystal Release can solidify its targets down to the cellular level, imprisoning and even killing the victim should the crystal ever be struck, reducing the mass of crystal and the victim down to crystalline dust.
Taijutsu
Her skills are also rather high as she was able to fight on even grounds with an expert like Kakashi, dodge multiple rasengan attacks from Naruto, and fight Lee and Tenten simultaneously. She is talented at noticing weaknesses in her opponent and using diversions, shown in how she kept Kakashi, Kiba, and Shino busy fighting her clones while she takes Hinata hostage.
Crystal Armour
Creates a thin layer of crystal over Guren to improve defenses and can be used to strengthen taijutsu. Cannot be seen unless light is reflected.
Ninjutsu
Posseses the crystal style "Kekkei Genkai". Can use even the moisture in the air for her jutsu as stated by Kabuto and Kakashi giving her an infinate arsenal of weapons/jutsu. The crystal seems to be high density due to the fact that Yamato's wood style couldn't penetrate through it.
Crystal Release: Crimson Fruit
An internal and external impenetrable dome that can be used for defense or entrapment.
Crystal Release: Crystal Encampment Wall
A regenerating, impenetrable wall created by a wave of chakra.
Crystal Release: Crystal Lance
A long sharp lance shaped crystal formed around her arm used to impale targets.
Crystal Release: Jade Chrystal Blade
Quickly made blade of crystal. Can be formed on both arms.
Crystal Release: Jade Crystal Mirror and Jade Crystal Clone Technique
A crystal mirror is made which is used to make clones of Gurens come out of the mirror. The clone is made of crystal and is able to decide byakugan users due to the reflective nature of the clone but can be circumvented if their sight is focused.
Crystal Release: Tearing Crystal Falling Dragon
The user crystallises a material in the area, and then turns it into a dragon. It can be used as a means to travel or to attack a target. Several dragons can also be made and manipulated at once.
Crystal Release: The Gods' Crossings Technique
Guren places her hand on a surface, creating a long stream of sharp crystals to bind and pierce a target.
Pressure Points of Harm and Death
Guren releases two tenketsu points to greatly increase her chakra for a short time by changing her life force into chakra, allowing the use of taxing techniques such as*Crystal Release: String of Glory. The amount of chakra released is so much that it causes water to form a vortex around her, similar to the one caused by opening the Sixth Gate of Joy from the eight gates, also her eyes momentarily go completely white, and her chakra is so concentrated that it becomes visible around her.
Crystal Release: String of Glory
After using the*Pressure Points of Harm and Death
technique, Guren encases herself in a prism of crystal. The prism can hover in the air, but seems to be immobile. However, the prism protects her from almost any attack, as it was capable of withstanding a barrage of continuous rasengan, only shattering in the end. In addition, this technique allows her to attack by focusing her chakra into powerful heat blasts launched through the prism's tip.
Neji Hyuga of the Byakugan
A very high prowess shinobi with the byakugan Kekkei Genkai and very skilled in taijutsu. Labeled a genuis within the Hyuga Clan and Konoha. Taught himself jutsu that can only be taught to the main branch of the clan just by observing and breaking down the mechanics. Calm and level headed in fight and can observe and create strategies on the spot.
Byakugan Kekkei Genkai
The primary ability of the Byakugan gives the user a near 360º field of vision, except for one blind spot at the back of the neck above the third thoracic vertebra.
*Upon activation of the dōjutsu, the wielder is granted an automatic 50 metre field of vision around themselves which can then be extended at their discretion.
The second ability is being able to see through solid objects, as well as some degree of telescopic sight. It can also see through most barriers, and other things such as smokescreens, differentiate between non-corporeal clones and can see through techniques that would otherwisehide an opponent from normal sight. The distance and the degree of telescopic sight varies from person to person, and can be improved through training. In Part I, Neji Hyūga was able to see an area of 50 metres, but he later increases his visual range to at least 800 metres, while Hinata Hyūga's range in Part II stretches at least as far as 10 km.
*However, the Byakugan cannot see through certain barriers, such as the Four Black Fog Battle Formation used by the Sound Four.
Taijutsu.
High prowess taijutsu and a user of the Gentle Fist exclusively used by the Hyuga Clan.
Gentle Fist
The Gentle Fist is a form of hand-to-hand combat used by members of the Hyūga clan. It inflicts internal damage through attacking the body's*Chakra Pathway System, subsequently injuring organs which are closely intertwined with the area of the network which has been struck. To do this, the user surgically injects a certain amount of their own chakra into the opponent's chakra pathway system, causing damage to surrounding organs due to their proximity to the chakra circulatory system. Even the slightest tap can cause severe internal damage, hence the name "gentle" fist.
Targeting the tenketsu can enhance the havoc and control a Gentle Fist practitioner can impose upon an opponent's chakra network. These special nodes, 361 in total, are key gatekeeping interceptions in the chakra circulatory network, thus forcibly opening or sealing them in whatever manner the Gentle Fist user sees fit is a powerful tactical option to have. The user's chakra can either increase chakra flow in the opponent's body, or disrupt it completely, preventing them from using techniques as seen in Neji's fight with Hinata during the Chūnin Exams.
.Neji Hyūga remarked that any chakra-based substance can be destroyed by this technique. As seen in his fight with Kidōmaru, it is done by leaking chakra from the chakra openings in one's hands and moulding it into a needle-like shape to slice through the chakra.
*However it is unknown if this technique can be done by any Gentle Fist user or just those who can see the tenketsu. Because the chakra pathway system is invisible to the naked eye, the Byakugan is required for this style to be used effectively. Since the Byakugan is unique to the Hyūga clan it has become their signature style of combat.
The ability to inflict severe internal trauma with minimal external force, combined with chakra network manipulation, makes the Gentle Fist the most reputable and fearsome taijutsu style known in all of Konohagakure.
Eight Trigrams One Hundred Twenty-Eight Palms
The Eight Trigrams One Hundred Twenty-Eight Palms is a manoeuvre of the Gentle Fist fighting style. It is essentially a doubled version of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms performed at twice the speed. This technique is used to close off the flow of chakra through one hundred and twenty-eight chakra points of an opponent's Chakra Pathway System. This eliminates their ability to use chakra for quite some time and makes it difficult for them to move. Alternatively, it can be used to hit a great number of targets very quickly.
Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms
The Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palm is a taijutsu that should only be passed down in the main house of the Hyūga. It is a dangerous technique that is appropriately handed down from father to only a single child within the Hyūga clan. It is a manoeuvre of the Gentle Fist fighting style.
With the Byakugan's near 360° field of vision, the user envisions an Eight Trigrams circle. Then the enemy within this circle is hit with a series of violent blows. By striking sixty-four of the tenketsu throughout the opponent's Chakra Pathway System, their chakra flow is stopped, making them unable to even stand.
Each set of strikes is done at an exponentially increasing pace and strength. The attack not only disables the enemy but also knocks them back with every set of strikes.
Gentle Fist Art One Blow Body
Using their ability to expel chakra from every chakra point on their body, a member of the Hyūga clan can hit their opponent with a blast of chakra that will send them flying away from the user.
Palm Bottom
This attack consists of a quick, precise thrust of the users' palm to an opponent's body. Like other Gentle Fist techniques, it sends chakra into the target to cause internal damage which will temporarily paralyse an opponent.
Ninjutsu
Eight Trigrams Mountain Crusher
A more powerful variation of Eight Trigrams Vacuum Palm. The user hits the target at close range with a powerful wave of chakra. The attack sends them flying back into a rock or wall, causing severe damage.
Eight Trigrams Palms Revolving Heaven
A secret taijutsu that is orally handed down only within the main house of the Hyūga, this technique utilises the chakra control gained through Gentle Fist training to release a huge amount of chakra from all the chakra points on the user's body. It is also a defensive manoeuvre to compensate for the Byakugan's blind spot as the released chakra blocks any possible attack on the user. After releasing chakra from every*tenketsu in their body, the user then spins rapidly to parry the attack, both creating a rotating shield of chakra around themselves and tossing away any nearby attackers. The user can also actively control the size and power of the sphere to suit the situation. This technique is only effective when rotating, since the chakra itself is not enough to stop a physical attack thus if they cannot spin, the user becomes vulnerable.
Eight Trigrams Vacuum Palm
This technique is similar in practice to Eight Trigrams Palms Revolving Heaven, but has a specific target rather than a general area. To perform it, the user precisely pinpoints the enemy's vital points with the Byakugan and releases a high-speed palm thrust. A "vacuum shell" compressed using the Gentle Fist is formed to attack the opponent's vitals from a distance, blowing them off their feet with tremendous force before they even notice they were hit.
Ways Guren can win
She can try to capture Neji the same way she did with Hinata in the crystal prison.
She can trick the byakugan by using the Crystal Release Jade Mirror and Crystal Jade Clones and blitz Neji with multiple clones armed with Jade Crystal Blades or Crystal Armour while she prepares and attacks with Jade Crystal Lance.
She can also use Tearing Crystal Falling Dragon as a diversion the bind or trap Neji with The Gods Crossing Technique then using Jade Crystal Lance to finish Neji.
Her defenses from Neji's attacks include Crystal Release Crimson Fruiti, Crystal Encampment Wall, and even Crystal Armour.
She can also use Crystal Armour and Jade Crystal Clones to counter Neji's Gentle Fist, Eight Trigrams One Hundred Twenty-Eight Palms, and Sixty-For Palms.
Ways Neji can win
He can use the byakugan to distinguish clones from the real thing as he is a better user than Hinata. Also use Eight Trigrams Revolving Heaven to keep the clones and Guren from attacking all at once.
He can use the Gentle Fist to fight close combat with Guren and try to hit the tenketsu and immobilize her and keep her from using chakra based techniques.
For long range he can use the Vacuum Palm and try to hit a vital spot while trying to get into his Eight Trigrams One Hundred Twenty-Eight Palms range to completely immobilize Guren.
If captured in a Crystal Prison he can expel a thin later of chakra like Hinata did to survive or use Gentle Fist Art One Blow Body while its incasing him to beak out of it.
Neji can counter any Crystal Shuriken jutsu, shuriken, kunai, and Tearing Crystal Falling Dragon with With Trigrams Revolving Heaven.
I personally think Guren can beat Neji with mid to high diff knowing that she has fought a Hyuga before, but Neji is on a whole other level compared to Hinata. Neji is a genius but he's mainly a close combat fighter. Guren can fight from both close and afar. And that's where Neji will begin to have trouble. The fight I think will be 65/35 in Guren's favor.
P.S this is my first "ligit" vs thread so I would like that I don't get dissed but rather constructive criticism because there can always be something I can do better.
Thanks to Negative Knight for the help with the ideas and character choices
vs
This thread is putting Guren the crystal style user and Neji Hyuga of the byakugan.
Guren of the Crystal Style
A high prowess ninjutsu and taijutsu user with a unconfirmed Kekkei Genkai and presumed earth style affinity.
Crystal Release Kekkei Genkai
The Crystal Release is a rare and specialised field of elemental ninjutsu that can create crystal as well as manipulate already-existing crystals and crystalline structures. It is seen only in the anime, and its only known user is Guren. Additionally, due to Guren's crystal dragons being shattered by Kakashi's Lightning Cutter and Kiba having mistaken the actual element for an Earth Release technique, it is assumed earth is one of the elements needed to create crystals. According to rumours that Tsunade had heard, Crystal Release can crystallise any substance, thus, earth, water, wood
techniques are useless against it. Using crystal ninjutsu, the user can crystallise any physical material and even the moisture in the air around them, turning them into a weapon. In the case of human targets, Crystal Release can solidify its targets down to the cellular level, imprisoning and even killing the victim should the crystal ever be struck, reducing the mass of crystal and the victim down to crystalline dust.
Taijutsu
Her skills are also rather high as she was able to fight on even grounds with an expert like Kakashi, dodge multiple rasengan attacks from Naruto, and fight Lee and Tenten simultaneously. She is talented at noticing weaknesses in her opponent and using diversions, shown in how she kept Kakashi, Kiba, and Shino busy fighting her clones while she takes Hinata hostage.
Crystal Armour
Creates a thin layer of crystal over Guren to improve defenses and can be used to strengthen taijutsu. Cannot be seen unless light is reflected.
Ninjutsu
Posseses the crystal style "Kekkei Genkai". Can use even the moisture in the air for her jutsu as stated by Kabuto and Kakashi giving her an infinate arsenal of weapons/jutsu. The crystal seems to be high density due to the fact that Yamato's wood style couldn't penetrate through it.
Crystal Release: Crimson Fruit
An internal and external impenetrable dome that can be used for defense or entrapment.
Crystal Release: Crystal Encampment Wall
A regenerating, impenetrable wall created by a wave of chakra.
Crystal Release: Crystal Lance
A long sharp lance shaped crystal formed around her arm used to impale targets.
Crystal Release: Jade Chrystal Blade
Quickly made blade of crystal. Can be formed on both arms.
Crystal Release: Jade Crystal Mirror and Jade Crystal Clone Technique
A crystal mirror is made which is used to make clones of Gurens come out of the mirror. The clone is made of crystal and is able to decide byakugan users due to the reflective nature of the clone but can be circumvented if their sight is focused.
Crystal Release: Tearing Crystal Falling Dragon
The user crystallises a material in the area, and then turns it into a dragon. It can be used as a means to travel or to attack a target. Several dragons can also be made and manipulated at once.
Crystal Release: The Gods' Crossings Technique
Guren places her hand on a surface, creating a long stream of sharp crystals to bind and pierce a target.
Pressure Points of Harm and Death
Guren releases two tenketsu points to greatly increase her chakra for a short time by changing her life force into chakra, allowing the use of taxing techniques such as*Crystal Release: String of Glory. The amount of chakra released is so much that it causes water to form a vortex around her, similar to the one caused by opening the Sixth Gate of Joy from the eight gates, also her eyes momentarily go completely white, and her chakra is so concentrated that it becomes visible around her.
Crystal Release: String of Glory
After using the*Pressure Points of Harm and Death
technique, Guren encases herself in a prism of crystal. The prism can hover in the air, but seems to be immobile. However, the prism protects her from almost any attack, as it was capable of withstanding a barrage of continuous rasengan, only shattering in the end. In addition, this technique allows her to attack by focusing her chakra into powerful heat blasts launched through the prism's tip.
Neji Hyuga of the Byakugan
A very high prowess shinobi with the byakugan Kekkei Genkai and very skilled in taijutsu. Labeled a genuis within the Hyuga Clan and Konoha. Taught himself jutsu that can only be taught to the main branch of the clan just by observing and breaking down the mechanics. Calm and level headed in fight and can observe and create strategies on the spot.
Byakugan Kekkei Genkai
The primary ability of the Byakugan gives the user a near 360º field of vision, except for one blind spot at the back of the neck above the third thoracic vertebra.
*Upon activation of the dōjutsu, the wielder is granted an automatic 50 metre field of vision around themselves which can then be extended at their discretion.
The second ability is being able to see through solid objects, as well as some degree of telescopic sight. It can also see through most barriers, and other things such as smokescreens, differentiate between non-corporeal clones and can see through techniques that would otherwisehide an opponent from normal sight. The distance and the degree of telescopic sight varies from person to person, and can be improved through training. In Part I, Neji Hyūga was able to see an area of 50 metres, but he later increases his visual range to at least 800 metres, while Hinata Hyūga's range in Part II stretches at least as far as 10 km.
*However, the Byakugan cannot see through certain barriers, such as the Four Black Fog Battle Formation used by the Sound Four.
Taijutsu.
High prowess taijutsu and a user of the Gentle Fist exclusively used by the Hyuga Clan.
Gentle Fist
The Gentle Fist is a form of hand-to-hand combat used by members of the Hyūga clan. It inflicts internal damage through attacking the body's*Chakra Pathway System, subsequently injuring organs which are closely intertwined with the area of the network which has been struck. To do this, the user surgically injects a certain amount of their own chakra into the opponent's chakra pathway system, causing damage to surrounding organs due to their proximity to the chakra circulatory system. Even the slightest tap can cause severe internal damage, hence the name "gentle" fist.
Targeting the tenketsu can enhance the havoc and control a Gentle Fist practitioner can impose upon an opponent's chakra network. These special nodes, 361 in total, are key gatekeeping interceptions in the chakra circulatory network, thus forcibly opening or sealing them in whatever manner the Gentle Fist user sees fit is a powerful tactical option to have. The user's chakra can either increase chakra flow in the opponent's body, or disrupt it completely, preventing them from using techniques as seen in Neji's fight with Hinata during the Chūnin Exams.
.Neji Hyūga remarked that any chakra-based substance can be destroyed by this technique. As seen in his fight with Kidōmaru, it is done by leaking chakra from the chakra openings in one's hands and moulding it into a needle-like shape to slice through the chakra.
*However it is unknown if this technique can be done by any Gentle Fist user or just those who can see the tenketsu. Because the chakra pathway system is invisible to the naked eye, the Byakugan is required for this style to be used effectively. Since the Byakugan is unique to the Hyūga clan it has become their signature style of combat.
The ability to inflict severe internal trauma with minimal external force, combined with chakra network manipulation, makes the Gentle Fist the most reputable and fearsome taijutsu style known in all of Konohagakure.
Eight Trigrams One Hundred Twenty-Eight Palms
The Eight Trigrams One Hundred Twenty-Eight Palms is a manoeuvre of the Gentle Fist fighting style. It is essentially a doubled version of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms performed at twice the speed. This technique is used to close off the flow of chakra through one hundred and twenty-eight chakra points of an opponent's Chakra Pathway System. This eliminates their ability to use chakra for quite some time and makes it difficult for them to move. Alternatively, it can be used to hit a great number of targets very quickly.
Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms
The Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palm is a taijutsu that should only be passed down in the main house of the Hyūga. It is a dangerous technique that is appropriately handed down from father to only a single child within the Hyūga clan. It is a manoeuvre of the Gentle Fist fighting style.
With the Byakugan's near 360° field of vision, the user envisions an Eight Trigrams circle. Then the enemy within this circle is hit with a series of violent blows. By striking sixty-four of the tenketsu throughout the opponent's Chakra Pathway System, their chakra flow is stopped, making them unable to even stand.
Each set of strikes is done at an exponentially increasing pace and strength. The attack not only disables the enemy but also knocks them back with every set of strikes.
Gentle Fist Art One Blow Body
Using their ability to expel chakra from every chakra point on their body, a member of the Hyūga clan can hit their opponent with a blast of chakra that will send them flying away from the user.
Palm Bottom
This attack consists of a quick, precise thrust of the users' palm to an opponent's body. Like other Gentle Fist techniques, it sends chakra into the target to cause internal damage which will temporarily paralyse an opponent.
Ninjutsu
Eight Trigrams Mountain Crusher
A more powerful variation of Eight Trigrams Vacuum Palm. The user hits the target at close range with a powerful wave of chakra. The attack sends them flying back into a rock or wall, causing severe damage.
Eight Trigrams Palms Revolving Heaven
A secret taijutsu that is orally handed down only within the main house of the Hyūga, this technique utilises the chakra control gained through Gentle Fist training to release a huge amount of chakra from all the chakra points on the user's body. It is also a defensive manoeuvre to compensate for the Byakugan's blind spot as the released chakra blocks any possible attack on the user. After releasing chakra from every*tenketsu in their body, the user then spins rapidly to parry the attack, both creating a rotating shield of chakra around themselves and tossing away any nearby attackers. The user can also actively control the size and power of the sphere to suit the situation. This technique is only effective when rotating, since the chakra itself is not enough to stop a physical attack thus if they cannot spin, the user becomes vulnerable.
Eight Trigrams Vacuum Palm
This technique is similar in practice to Eight Trigrams Palms Revolving Heaven, but has a specific target rather than a general area. To perform it, the user precisely pinpoints the enemy's vital points with the Byakugan and releases a high-speed palm thrust. A "vacuum shell" compressed using the Gentle Fist is formed to attack the opponent's vitals from a distance, blowing them off their feet with tremendous force before they even notice they were hit.
Ways Guren can win
She can try to capture Neji the same way she did with Hinata in the crystal prison.
She can trick the byakugan by using the Crystal Release Jade Mirror and Crystal Jade Clones and blitz Neji with multiple clones armed with Jade Crystal Blades or Crystal Armour while she prepares and attacks with Jade Crystal Lance.
She can also use Tearing Crystal Falling Dragon as a diversion the bind or trap Neji with The Gods Crossing Technique then using Jade Crystal Lance to finish Neji.
Her defenses from Neji's attacks include Crystal Release Crimson Fruiti, Crystal Encampment Wall, and even Crystal Armour.
She can also use Crystal Armour and Jade Crystal Clones to counter Neji's Gentle Fist, Eight Trigrams One Hundred Twenty-Eight Palms, and Sixty-For Palms.
Ways Neji can win
He can use the byakugan to distinguish clones from the real thing as he is a better user than Hinata. Also use Eight Trigrams Revolving Heaven to keep the clones and Guren from attacking all at once.
He can use the Gentle Fist to fight close combat with Guren and try to hit the tenketsu and immobilize her and keep her from using chakra based techniques.
For long range he can use the Vacuum Palm and try to hit a vital spot while trying to get into his Eight Trigrams One Hundred Twenty-Eight Palms range to completely immobilize Guren.
If captured in a Crystal Prison he can expel a thin later of chakra like Hinata did to survive or use Gentle Fist Art One Blow Body while its incasing him to beak out of it.
Neji can counter any Crystal Shuriken jutsu, shuriken, kunai, and Tearing Crystal Falling Dragon with With Trigrams Revolving Heaven.
I personally think Guren can beat Neji with mid to high diff knowing that she has fought a Hyuga before, but Neji is on a whole other level compared to Hinata. Neji is a genius but he's mainly a close combat fighter. Guren can fight from both close and afar. And that's where Neji will begin to have trouble. The fight I think will be 65/35 in Guren's favor.
P.S this is my first "ligit" vs thread so I would like that I don't get dissed but rather constructive criticism because there can always be something I can do better.
Thanks to Negative Knight for the help with the ideas and character choices