Welp. Just watched some clips, and from what I saw, she only sparred evenly with No Sharingan Kakashi, and that doesn't put her movement speed on his level, and it puts her reaction speed below his level. Base Naruto fights on par with Base Sasuke in Taijutsu yet Base Sasuke moves far faster than Base Naruto will ever hope to move. Kn0 Naruto gets his ass whooped by 3-Tomoe Sasuke but the former is far faster than the latter. She only evaded a Raikiri jab from a No Sharingan Kakashi too, so that's not that good of a feat. Especially since Raikiri's speed comes from running+thrust.
You're ignoring the fact that a simple jab motion is easier to execute than to move your body. Sasuke showed that
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after teleporting behind him. However, Sasuke attacked from behind so I'm not saying Guren is much faster than Kakashi just because Naruto is much faster than Sasuke. Furthermore, when Kakashi did the jab, he didn't reel back his arm whereas Sasuke did so Kakashi's jab had little distance to travel in comparison.
And her crystal didn't withstand Rasengan because it was strong enough to do so, it withstood Rasengan because it heals itself right after getting hit, and Rasengan was only powerful enough to blow a hole in it and leave Guren unharmed. So...
Thanks for pointing out that the individual rasengans were cracking her crystal. However, initially they weren't doing any damage considering you can't see or hear any cracks (
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The only good speed feat here is evading Naruto's Rasengan barrage despite being surrounded, which is a pretty good feat since Naruto isn't exactly slow, but he's not a speedster either, at least not at that point.
It's an even better feat than you are making it out to be because prior to her being surrounded, Shino had just sucked a lot of chakra from her (
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. On the other hand,
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which implies he couldn't dodge it at that time but still had enough chakra to use ribcage susanoo which is more chakra taxing than using crystal style. Now dodging multiple rasengans from point blank range and all from all around her is a harder task than dodging lava from 5 m away so that's a very nice reaction feat.
Nothing puts her movement speed on par with Kakashi's, but if he has enough distance I don't see why she wouldn't evade Atsugai or Gian. Agreed that threads do nothing to crystal, agreed that he can't consistently avoid her attacks, agreed that he gets crystallized if he uses Domu to stand still. However, why wouldn't he just overpower her crystal attacks with Atsugai? It'd obliterate her crystal since it's not powerful enough to take Rasengan. And if she ever gets in a position where the Raiton Mask gets her with a blindside attack, preferably after dodging something like Atsugai or Zukkoku she'd die since her crystal wouldn't guard against something equal to Raikiri when Rasengan blew a hole in it.
Went over her speed earlier on. Fine, then Kakuzu uses Atsugai to destroy the crytals much like Kakashi utilized Raikiri to destroy the three crystal dragons coming at him, leaving him open to get caught off guard from the back like Kakashi was. Instead of attacking Kakuzu with a crystal stab, she uses the noise and cover from Atsugai's impact to sneak behind Kakuzu (much like Kakuzu used the noise and cover from his katon+fuuton combo to
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And based on what can she block Atsugai? Atsugai>Rasengan in raw power, and Rasengan blew a hole in her crystal.
The total damage Atsugai does will be greater than rasengan but it will be more spread out so it won't destroy it completely if rasengan can only crack it. This is because Atsugai hitting the defense would be weaker than a bunch of rasengans hitting the crystal at the same time but at different spots. A bunch of rasengans doing what I just said would be powerful enough to crack the entirety of her defense but not enough to destroy it, let alone harm her.
Then there's the fact that Guren can't even crystallize chakra. Kisame low diffs her.
She can crystallize a fuuton+suiton combo as she's already done so. Kakashi stated only pure energy attacks like fire and lightning would work. Her trump card pushes the difficulty to mid IMO.
Itachi low diffs regardless of his illness. :lol Why would his illness boost the difficulty when his illness is a non factor if he doesn't spam MS too much, which isn't even needed to beat her but it won't be a low diff without it. With MS it's a low diff.
Itachi with his illness is slower when you compare his feats as an edo to his feats when he was alive. Regardless, it doesn't make much of a difference because he'll barely need MS to kill her so the difficulty is probably low-mid.
Obito rapes low diff. Let's be serious here. He might not even need MS to beat her.
-When has Guren shown to create crystal from her body? Cause I thought her ability let her form crystal from moisture in the air? Which wouldn't be from her body so there's no way she counters a warp before it is done with. Not to mention there is nothing that shows her creation process is that fast. In fact the anime shows that it's too slow.
-Not sure how Guren is going to force Obito to keep intangibility up when he barely needs to use it to defeat her? He's on par with Kakashi in speed and shit and Kakashi was evading her attacks like a pro until that one moment, but Obito can just either warp away or slip through the crystal in that one moment and then assault Guren directly.
Shuriken projected by Kamui should might be able to rip through her crystal shield since it can rip through B's tentacle. Juubi Sized Katon should definitely blow through her crystal and kill her. If Kakashi can evade her attacks without using his Sharingan then Obito using his Sharingan does it even easier.
Agreed Obito wins low diff.
