[Discussion] Gura Gura is not the most destructive DF

[sage1999]

IMO it is the Magu Magu no mi, the fruit possessed by Akainu. I won't be surprised if, by the EoS where there would be tht grand war, Akainu would be most likely a living super volacano like the one in Yellowstone and with this he could seriously affect things on a global scale. No earthquake in real life has ever done global damage (it can, at maximum, be continental) but a Supervolcano could take things to a whole new level.

[video=youtube;VR1bg_Yf0T4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR1bg_Yf0T4[/video]

 

[loj]

Can't argue - #mangafacts

 

[Prog]

I honestly disagree. Has any volcanic eruption ever done more damage than an earthquake? (Collateral damage and loss of life I mean)

 

[sage1999]

I honestly disagree. Has any volcanic eruption ever done more damage than an earthquake?

quite ironically earthquakes are usually released as warnings to an eruption (Like Mt Vesuvius and Pompeii.)

 

[Pythagorean]

Being that the Gura Gura no mi can somewhat cause an earthquake, can't it just set off the chain reactions of volcanic explosions and tsunamis?

 

[Prog]

quite ironically earthquakes are usually released as warnings to an eruption (Like Mt Vesuvius and Pompeii.)

Oh, I can see that. I think that earthquakes are far more dangerous.
However, in OP I think the strength of the devil fruit depends a great deal on the user, and WB>Akainu.

 

[Caliburn]

My knowledge about supervolcanoes and Yellowstone are a bit foggy, but I'm pretty sure that what makes it a supervolcano, are the specific environmental circumstances and not just magma. Yellowstone is what they call a hotspot where hot magma keeps pressing against the earth from bellow for hundreds of thousands of years till it eventually gives away and all that massive energy that has been building up is released. This is not something Akainu can just replicate on a whim and them I'm talking about replicating it in the correct circumstances as he himself can't be a supervolcano, he's not even a volcano, he's plain magma. Frankly if you're going to start considering stuff like that, you might as well consider that the Gura Gura no Mi allows you to control plate tectonics, effectively allowing you to split the entire world apart.

 

[sage1999]

Oh, I can see that. I think that earthquakes are far more dangerous.
However, in OP I think the strength of the devil fruit depends a great deal on the user, and WB>Akainu.

WB>Akainu until a point. Akainu will eventually end up as strong or even stronger thn WB as the series progresses. Him being Fleet Admiral is an indicator tht he will be as strong as Sengoku and probz overtake him due to his resistance and tolerance to pain. Akainu is the ***** u luv to hate. His DF ability will eventually maths WB

 

[sage1999]

My knowledge about supervolcanoes and Yellowstone are a bit foggy, but I'm pretty sure that what makes it a supervolcano, are the specific environmental circumstances and not just magma. Yellowstone is what they call a hotspot where hot magma keeps pressing against the earth from bellow for hundreds of thousands of years till it eventually gives away and all that massive energy that has been building up is released. This is not something Akainu can just replicate on a whim and them I'm talking about replicating it in the correct circumstances as he himself can't be a supervolcano, he's not even a volcano, he's plain magma. Frankly if you're going to start considering stuff like that, you might as well consider that the Gura Gura no Mi allows you to control plate tectonics, effectively allowing you to split the entire world apart.

isnt tht what the entire awakening BS is bout. Akainu can potentially access the magma flowing in the earth core and use it to cause super eruuptions. .

Plus u forgot tht the Gura is a vibration fruit. It does not create earthquakes and cant control plate techntonics. WB can ony create quakes under which falls the category of earthquake and sea quakes as seen in MF.

Being that the Gura Gura no mi can somewhat cause an earthquake, can't it just set off the chain reactions of volcanic explosions and tsunamis?

it could but tht would need perfect settings where everything needs to be correct and in place for a chain reaction which is what, in a fight, would normally not be available

 

[Caliburn]

isnt tht what the entire awakening BS is bout. Akainu can potentially access the magma flowing in the earth core and use it to cause super eruuptions. .

Plus u forgot tht the Gura is a vibration fruit. It does not create earthquakes and cant control plate techntonics. WB can ony create quakes under which falls the category of earthquake and sea quakes as seen in MF.



it could but tht would need perfect settings where everything needs to be correct and in place for a chain reaction which is what, in a fight, would normally not be available

...DD used his awakening DF to turn some buildings into strings and then Akainu can start manipulating the earth's core? DF awakening? That's not a DF awakening anymore, against that DF awakenings are pitiful jokes. Heck supervulcanoes are pitiful jokes if you can manipulate the earth's core, why bother even creating a supervulcano if you can do that.

Do you even know how a supervulcano is created? That YT vid just shows what happens in the end, but not how they are created. These do not just appear anywhere. Yellowstone erupts on a 'regular' basis, but always on the same spot. It however goes so slow that the continental plates have shifted against the time it erupts the next time. You can follow the series of earlier eruptions of Yellowstone on the surface. There are remnants of several craters almost in a straight line of the current one. A new crater is formed each time. With other words supervolcanoes can not appear just anywhere and Akainu can't control these circumstances.

And my point was that Akainu can not make supervolcanoes just as WB can not control plate tectonics. If you are going to say that Akainu does something that's completely out of his power, then you can say that of WB too. He could just try to move plates apart with his power. If he succeeds in doing that for even a meter, the results are massive as how do you think earth and seaquakes are made? By plates colliding with each other, which in return creates massive shockwaves. If WB is going to stand close to a place where plates are rubbing each other, he could act like a catalyst.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

isnt tht what the entire awakening BS is bout. Akainu can potentially access the magma flowing in the earth core and use it to cause super eruuptions. .

Plus u forgot tht the Gura is a vibration fruit. It does not create earthquakes and cant control plate techntonics. WB can ony create quakes under which falls the category of earthquake and sea quakes as seen in MF.



it could but tht would need perfect settings where everything needs to be correct and in place for a chain reaction which is what, in a fight, would normally not be available

There's also the fact that not all awakenings would allow the user to manipulate the environment around them.

 

[Wretched]

But earthquakes cause tsunamis and volcanic erruptions so yeah gura gura IS the most destructive !
By the way what are you saying is more like the power of akainu rather than the fruit , someone who just got the fruit won't be able to do any big damage while we could see when BB the second he ate it he had island level attacks...

 

[bajram]

I've been saying this since forever, stop using real life knowledge to a manga, it just doesnt work that way otherwise Kizaru would destroy the world fighting but not really.

As for the manga both are pretty damn destructive but no one is going to top Gura-Gura no Mi, for me the difference is that Gura may be very destructive but it isnt as lethal as Magu Magu in a fight, 2 of Akainus magma punches pretty much brought death to WB and Akainu even though he took both quake punches was still going good and ready to fight, I can see that WB took other injures as well but the main thing killing him was the magma hits, BB just accelerated WB's death.

 

[sage1999]

There's also the fact that not all awakenings would allow the user to manipulate the environment around them.

Doffy pretty much manipulated buildings into strings. So why cant Logia manipulate already existing element?

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

I honestly disagree. Has any volcanic eruption ever done more damage than an earthquake? (Collateral damage and loss of life I mean)

Google 'volcano mass extinction'

 

[Peace Maker]

not because his a living magma he s the most destructive devil fruit there is, imagined whitebeard in his prime, using paramecia awakened df (just like what mingo did turning everything into strings) whitebeard could preety much destroy the whole world turning everything into quake creating tsunamis (the impact could be worldwide) making volcanos erupt weve seen whitebeard crack the air which means he can manipulate the air and make it crack to anyplace he wants also how can you defeat a quake man if you cant even stand straight with all the earthquakes and shet... weve seen shanks soloed akainus attack completely with a mere sword with haki that means haki can do shet woth magma ez..

 

[jiraiya lives]

An earth quake can potentially become planetary. Even sengoku stated he has the power to destroy the world... I think that this would be a quicker disaster than a super eruption that can "spread" globally.

 

[Caliburn]

Doffy pretty much manipulated buildings into strings. So why cant Logia manipulate already existing element?

Manipulating an element and what you are talking about are completely different. Crocodile already showed in Alabasta the advantages of being in an environment that's conform with a DF ability, but that's world's apart of starting to create supervolcanoes and manipulating the earth's core. If Akainu was fighting on a volcano, he probably could manipulate the lava, but doing just that and the things you are proposing are not the same. This applies to most logia users. If you place Aokiji in a frozen wasteland, he also has a huge advantage. In itself this isn't particularly new nor OP.

 

[ArabianLuffy]

Akainu can not achieve Supervolcano. Unless someone buries him alive few miles under surface. He needs high pressure.

 

[Mephew D Kensei]

A simple show of power from the gura gura can wipe an Island off the face of the map and this Island could be mile and miles away while simple use of the magu magubis lethal to a limited area though with directed appliation one could possibly cause disasters yes its just that the gura gura can achieve this with someone just kidding around. If Oda later said gura gura was Uranus i wld totally say thats ok coz its just that powerful(im not saying it is uranus or that i want it to be, just getting a point accross).

If it was WB and not Akainu fighting on PH for 10 days I tell u the devastation wld not just have been to PH, it wld have been the entire New World in turmoil and I doubt there wld have been that much of PH intact so as to have an entire arc story there.