[Debate] Guns Even out the Playing Field

[Senju Bean]

Scenario 1: Crazed criminal charges at defenseless old lady with with an axe. The old lady is screwed even if she uses an axe herself.

Scenario 2: Crazed criminal threatens defenseless old lady with a gun. The old lady herself has a gun so they have a shootout.




In scenario 2, the old lady has a fighting chance, even though the criminal has a gun. This is because a gun helps the old lady make up for her lack of strength. The old lady is too weak to wield swords, axes, baseball bats etc.


If guns were illegal, scenario 1 would happen rather than scenario 2

 

[roner]

yeah...senju bean you rock!

 

[VongolaX]

Unfortunately for her the criminal was a former Navy officer...

He is a part time mercenary and thief to find extra pay.

How would this 3rd senerio work out for her^^

 

[Senju Bean]

Unfortunately for her the criminal was a former server in the Navy...

He is a part time mercenary and a thief to find extra pay.

How would this 3rd senerio work out for her^^

Still better than scenario 1.

In scenario 3, she could land a lucky shot.

In scenario 1, she has no chances whatsoever.

 

[Umari Senju]

Unfortunately for her the criminal was a former Navy officer...

He is a part time mercenary and thief to find extra pay.

How would this 3rd senerio work out for her^^

Good point XD

 

[Senju Bean]

Good point XD

Not really, like I have stated, the old lady has the best chance with a gun because she is too weak to wield anything else. It's just basic probability.

Even if the assailant has a machine gun and she has only a revolver, she is still better off than than getting into a knife dual with assailant.

 

[Lucidus]

an axe is easier to spot than a gun.. a gun can be easily concealed where as something like an axe cant be..

a dagger would be the likely weapon of choice and would be easy to conceal.. i agree with you to an extent

 

[GenKiDama]

but if guns were illegal then its harder to come across people like that.
But i'm assuming you're american so you can't even fathom what thats like. America is too broken to turn back now.

 

[hixa kuogame]

If guns were outlawed what would be the chances of the person even getting a gun?
What would be the chances of an an lady even being able to withstand the recoil of the gun?
poor reasoning

 

[Corgi]

an axe is easier to spot than a gun.. a gun can be easily concealed where as something like an axe cant be..

a dagger would be the likely weapon of choice and would be easy to conceal.. i agree with you to an extent

Why would he need to code all the axe anyways? It's not like the old lady has a fighting chance anyways. He just needs to charge her and she's dead.

 

[VongolaX]

Still better than scenario 1.

In scenario 3, she could land a lucky shot.

In scenario 1, she has no chances whatsoever.

3rd senerio there is slim to no chance of getting a lucky shot.

I think guns even out the play field, depending on the user.

You See, some people are smart enough to beat others with a lead pipe, then gun down the individual that reaches for their own gun.

Every time when humans feel helpless after fighting physically(key word: afterwards), they will resort to their gun afterwards to overcome their enemy.

But if you are smart in a sense to beat this helpless person to near-death, and then you shot them while they're down...
(^^Which I aspire to be)

The old lady/victim would be carrying a wasted gun.

 

[Senju Bean]

but if guns were illegal then its harder to come across people like that.
But i'm assuming you're american so you can't even fathom what thats like. America is too broken to turn back now.

You don't understand my logic.

Criminals are stronger than civilians.

If the criminal has no gun and you have no gun, you are screwed. I can never beat a hardened criminal in a fist fight or even with a baseball bat.

I rather take my chances to have a gun dual with criminal.

 

[TheRedAndGreenBeast]

You don't understand my logic.

Criminals are stronger than citizens.

If the criminal has no gun and you have no gun, you are screwed. I can never beat a hardened criminal in a fist fight or even with a baseball bat.

I rather take my chances to have a gun dual with criminal.

You think you'd lose in a fist fight (or if they have a weapon that isn't a gun) to your average criminal? Take up karate. If they have a gun, give them your freaking stuff, don't risk your life over possessions. Scenario one is less likely since an axe is harder to conceal. If guns are illegal, there would be less chance of him having a gun because it would be harder to get one. Guns being legal is one of the most stupid things I have ever heard of. I mean... what is the only use for a gun? To kill things. Besides, how many old women do you know that can handle the recoil of a gun?

 

[Sominus]

This is naive on so many levels I wonder why I even bother to commend.

 

[Shogi]

Scenario 1: Crazed criminal charges at defenseless old lady with with an axe. The old lady is screwed even if she uses an axe herself.

Scenario 2: Crazed criminal threatens defenseless old lady with a gun. The old lady herself has a gun so they have a shootout.

Not sure if serious? Both scenarios the old lady is screwed, if a crazed criminal comes at you with a gun do you honestly think they would give an old lady the time to pull out a gun and shoot them? This would require the old lady to already have her gun primed with the safety off to even have a remote chance to out shoot the criminal. In no scenario would there be a 'shoot out' between them she would simply just be shot.

 

[Kishi Uzumaki]

Scenario 4 : crazed criminal threatens defenseless old lady , who have a gun and she can't see properly and shoot everyone on her sight .

 

[Jin Hayami]

Unfortunately for her the criminal was a former Navy officer...

He is a part time mercenary and thief to find extra pay.

How would this 3rd senerio work out for her^^

Not as bad as you might think considering Navy don't actually have to qualify with weapons. Just fire them.

 

[Senju Bean]

Not sure if serious? Both scenarios the old lady is screwed, if a crazed criminal comes at you with a gun do you honestly think they would give an old lady the time to pull out a gun and shoot them? This would require the old lady to already have her gun primed with the safety off to even have a remote chance to out shoot the criminal. In no scenario would there be a 'shoot out' between them she would simply just be shot.

but if the criminal misses due to being stoned out on crack, it gives the old lady a few seconds to pull out her gun and use it.

Regardless, in scenario 2, she has a slightly higher chance.

 

[Senju Bean]

Scenario 4 : crazed criminal threatens defenseless old lady , who have a gun and she can't see properly and shoot everyone on her sight .

Thats just the risk of self defense.

If a gang was chasing me on the road, i dont care about my surroundings, im just going to slam the petal as hard as i possibly can. Anyone would.

This guy stopped his car and as a result, he almost got his head bashed in

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[whoami28]

Scenario 4 - no one is allowed guns, violence is no longer viewed as in proxy because you're not doing it by your own hand, people then actually have to commit physical and personal violence to do morally questionable actions. If you want to steal an old lady's purse? You have to actually stab her now, and get blood all over you. Now people actually have to take time to commit crimes in plain sight and have physical evidence of it rather than shoot a gun and pretend to be running from the shootout.