[VS] Grimmjow vs byakuya

[Apple Knight]

intent to kill

Location= karakura town

 

[iFlowMotion]

Byakuya

 

[ToshiZO]

Grimmjow

 

[Tarkatower]

pre-timeskip Byakuya wins with Bankai high-diff

post-RG Byakuya low-diffs at worst with Shikai.

 

[Zexion~]

Its pretty even since Ichigo showed all you need to counter SZ at the time was speed which is all Grimm has, Byakuya may still pull it out tho.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

pre-timeskip Byakuya wins with Bankai high-diff

post-RG Byakuya low-diffs at worst with Shikai.

not sure if pre timeskip wins it. Ichigo beat him and Grimmjow was pawning the same Bankai Ichigo until he put on the mask.
yeah Post RG likely wins

 

[Unorthodox]

not sure if pre timeskip wins it. Ichigo beat him and Grimmjow was pawning the same Bankai Ichigo until he put on the mask.
yeah Post RG likely wins

Shikai Kenny stalemated Ichigo. Nnoitra is 5 and virtually got one shotted by kenpachi

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Shikai Kenny stalemated Ichigo. Nnoitra is 5 and virtually got one shotted by kenpachi

late response my man. Also what does kenpachi have to do with this?

 

[kyubbi sagemode]

Well you talked about how bankai ichigo was outspeeding byakuya but that was back in the soul society arc where shikai ichigo stalemated with kenpachi. Byakuya and kenny were both portrayed as equals against yammy and and both showed new techniques. Also kenny was able to beat nnoitra whos was ranked higher than grimmjow. Byakuya would beat grimmjow high diff.

 

[EZQ]

Shikai Kenny stalemated Ichigo. Nnoitra is 5 and virtually got one shotted by kenpachi

Dude. This got explained. Kenpachi always restrained himself to make the fight fun, even if he could have stomped the enemy.

The Kenpachi that stomped Noitra did not use the same quantity of power as the kenpachi who lost to ichigo.

 

[Unorthodox]

Dude. This got explained. Kenpachi always restrained himself to make the fight fun, even if he could have stomped the enemy.

The Kenpachi that stomped Noitra did not use the same quantity of power as the kenpachi who lost to ichigo.

Kenpachi went all out both fights he never holds back to give his enemy the upper hand or to stalemate him. Only thing he didn't do was 2 hands on hid sword

 

[EZQ]

Kenpachi went all out both fights he never holds back to give his enemy the upper hand or to stalemate him. Only thing he didn't do was 2 hands on hid sword

Nope, lmao. You clearly didn't read (or forgot) the chapter where Unohana explains why Kenpachi tied with Ichigo when he could have destroyed him. Zaraki had mental restrains that made him weak enough to enjoy the fight against someone weaker. As soon Zaraki got rid of his mental restrains, he killed Unohana with ease, who was at the moment the "real kenpachi" (hint: she was actually the strongest captain at that moment)

 

[Unorthodox]

Nope, lmao. You clearly didn't read (or forgot) the chapter where Unohana explains why Kenpachi tied with Ichigo when he could have destroyed him. Zaraki had mental restrains that made him weak enough to enjoy the fight against someone weaker. As soon Zaraki got rid of his mental restrains, he killed Unohana with ease, who was at the moment the "real kenpachi" (hint: she was actually the strongest captain at that moment)

1. Those restraints were used on Noitora then so my point remains.

Unohana was not the strongest Captain Shunsui was. Its implied Unohana is weaker then shikai ken which we both know is no match for bankai shunsui

 

[EZQ]

1. Those restraints were used on Noitora then so my point remains.

Unohana was not the strongest Captain Shunsui was. Its implied Unohana is weaker then shikai ken which we both know is no match for bankai shunsui

Lmaoooo. Zaraki without shikari and without mental restrains is stronger than Unohana. Zaraki with Shikai destroyed Gremmy, who was the strongest stern rittern by FAR except for the elites (which shunsui didn't stand a chance against).

Shikai Kenpachi >>>>>>> Shunsui. Maybe shunsui beats him on 1v1 because of being a bad matchup. And how on earth does the first sentence have any logic?

Nnoitra >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First arc Ichigo (the one that stalemated Zaraki).

But we know for a fact that Zaraki > Noitra.

Zaraki used a very very strong restrain to be on par with Ichigo, when in reality he would butcher him without mental restrains. He did not use the same level of mental restrain against Nnoitra, because Nnoitra was pretty strong.