[Predictions] Gremmy Thoumeaux isn't as op as we think...

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This chapter proved Gremmy Thoumeaux powers are actually an illusion and his opponents make them come true...

Kensei and Love were not actually dead until Unohana's Lt(forgot her name) thought they were dead...
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He tells Yachiru to imagine it the moment she imagined it... It came to reality...
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He's basically implying her to think her bones are broken and the moment she does it happens...
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The reason why Kenpachi was able to cut this Guy because he told Kenpachi he was steel... Kenpachi knows he can cut anyform of steel so when he thought of this he was cut... Which is the reason Kobu added this quote from Kenpachi...
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To prove my point further...
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Here he makes an Illusion of lava and asks Kenpachi what is it... When Kenpachi thinks it lava it actually becomes lava...

Imo he should be Q for question...
 

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I figured that out before the last pages, became pretty clear once you put it all in thought.

He is OP to an ignorant opponent. It was pretty damn awesome for someone like Zaraki to find out how his powers work.
 

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if he wouldn't spoil his enemies with how his ability work he would be super over powered !
 

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I like your analysis, but I still like the tech. How do you explain the reason that Yachiru's back to normal. Zaraki didn't believe gremmy? If that's the case, this battle's over. My idea is that he really can create something from nothing, but he has a limited range and he can only focus on one thing at a time.
 

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Nope I don't believe so and it was explained last chapter if he lose focus about you or forget about you then his imagination that happens to you is gone ( like Yachiru situation) and he is just warming up he will use his OP skills soon enough ^^
 

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He is, he fight with equal grounds with Kenpachi (after training) and on top of that he could have Vollstandig.
 

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Mayuri will come to Kenpachi's aid...and be the one to defeat this "Gremmy"
 

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I like your analysis, but I still like the tech. How do you explain the reason that Yachiru's back to normal. Zaraki didn't believe gremmy? If that's the case, this battle's over. My idea is that he really can create something from nothing, but he has a limited range and he can only focus on one thing at a time.

@Bold correct Kenpachi didn't know what cookies were so in that instant i believe Yachiru bones were back to regular...
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Also i believe he has a range as well... Remember his powers are in his opponents imagination...
 

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Sooo if that's the case, that means he created the stage for a purpose. to somewhat isolate the two. and not have to be worried about having to use his power on multiple ppl. because maybe he can only use his powers fully on one opponent at a time. possible that her bones turned to that other shit kenpachi said instead of cookies because he didn't know what cookies were? i think so.
 

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This chapter proved Gremmy Thoumeaux powers are actually an illusion and his opponents make them come true...

Kensei and Love were not actually dead until Unohana's Lt(forgot her name) thought they were dead...
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They were death before unohana thinking they are death.

He tells Yachiru to imagine it the moment she imagined it... It came to reality...
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Yachiru hand broken first before gremmy told her, her bones is made of cookies.

He's basically implying her to think her bones are broken and the moment she does it happens...
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Yachiru another hand broken is when gremmy imagine the rest bone were cookies as well.

The reason why Kenpachi was able to cut this Guy because he told Kenpachi he was steel... Kenpachi knows he can cut anyform of steel so when he thought of this he was cut... Which is the reason Kobu added this quote from Kenpachi...
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Please be noted that gremmy body already become steel before he told zaraki so.

To prove my point further...
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Here he makes an Illusion of lava and asks Kenpachi what is it... When Kenpachi thinks it lava it actually becomes lava...
Please read the manga carefully. gremmy wound is healed before he told zaraki so. and zaraki noted gremmy wound healed before gremmy told zaraki anything. The lava coming out before he told zaraki as well.
Imo he should be Q for question...


Conclusion is , gremmy ability doesn't require opponent to imagine it with him.
It's an op ability. He did told us that he is the strongest sternritter right? The only thing u could do is killed him ASAP.
 
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nice explanation but i think the people don't have to imagine things he says but anyway it's a very op ability and kenny is kicking his ***
 

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Ah, so he cant just make people think that their coconuts.

But, if his power is that if he can convince someone that something is something, then it becomes so, That would mean he could apply it to his own powers. If he convinces someone that his powers are to make imagination become reality, he becomes unstoppable, except by Narrative Necessity.

And even then, Narrative Necessity turns into a coconut.



Also, the effects of his powers have been seen before he tells them about it. He broke Yachiru's left arm before he turned her bones into cookies, and blocked kenpachi's sword. Two possible solutions to this exist:
1: Gremmy has high physical strength
2: You are just plain wrong.

I hope it's the first one.
 

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As I understand you are saying Gremmy's ability is nothing more than creating illusions which become reality if the opponent imagines it, however your own explanation has more than one flaw in it.

1) Kenpachi attacked Gremmy before he said anything about being as hard as steel, so Kenpachi couldn't have imagined that. If your theory was correct, Kenpachi should have cut him instantly. Instead his blade was stopped and then Gremmy explained he imagined he was as hard as steel and only after that Kenpachi cut him saying he should have said so before as then he would have used enough force to cut steel from the get-go, which he did not do with his first attack, where he in fact thought (or even 'imagined') the guy had a regular body.

There are several other instances that if it was Kenpachi imagining things and not Remmy, Remmy should have already been dead. For example Kenpachi's last attack was stopped by Remmy imagining some large object, how could Kenpachi have imagined that at such a speed?

2) You interpreted Kenpachi's comment about cookies way to easily in a way it suits your own theory. If someone would say to me that they changed a person's bones into cookies, I too would say something along the lines of what Kenpachi said. Not because I don't know what cookies are, but simply because it's messed up, even in a world like Bleach. Also it would be very illogical in normal circumstances for Kenpachi not to know what cookies are, but Yashiro loves to eat stuff, especially sweet stuff. How could Kenpachi not know cookies? Remmy's reaction on Kenpachi's words was probably nothing more than some kind of trash talk. On top of that her bones were already turned into cookies before Kenpachi even arrived. Till Remmy said it, he didn't even know her bones had been changed. So whether he imagined it or not, whether he knew what cookies are or not, really doesn't matter as Yashiro certainly knew what cookies are and imagined it. So her bones changing back has nothing to do with Kenpachi's imagination.

Sorry, but I think your analysis is wrong. The reason as why her bones changed back has already been explained in this thread and pretty much by Kenpachi himself at the end of the chapter: Remmy had been focusing so hard on Kenpachi, he had forgotten Yashiro. Simply said he can only turn imagination into reality for a limited amount of time, probably as long as he is 'imagining' it. The more things he needs to imagine, the more difficult it gets, but he is still the one imagining it. They way how he speaks is probably nothing more than his personality with no practical meaning.
 

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What if he asked "what would happen if your heart stopped beating?"

Then he wins...

It was a dumb power to bring into the manga because Kubo has to nerf it - unless Zaraki dies.
 

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What if he asked "what would happen if your heart stopped beating?"

Then he wins...

It was a dumb power to bring into the manga because Kubo has to nerf it - unless Zaraki dies.

then yachiru would attack him making him lose thought of kenpachi.
 

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What if he asked "what would happen if your heart stopped beating?"

Then he wins...

It was a dumb power to bring into the manga because Kubo has to nerf it - unless Zaraki dies.

Then he would be beaten up by Rukia or Komamura, since their basically zombies now.
 
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