Greatest Match-Up Of All Time?

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kisame Vs kakuzu


just throwin it out there
 

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I'd love Kakashi vs Guy fight to the death, rather than the buddy buddy stuff. It would be incredible.
I do think Itachi would take Kisame though, we know he respected him as atleast an equal, I want to say he thought Itachi was more powerful than himself but I'm not positive.

it seems he did think itachi was stronger than him because when they were going after naruto kisame said he'd probably die but itachi would have a chance. This does seem like an interesting fight.

Kisame has to contend with Tsukuyomi and amaterasu
Itachi has to contend with drowning and chakra drain.

Susano'o is able to defend against all kisame's water jutsu
Kisame is able to drain susano'o. Mmmh...

Undeniable.
Too me I believe itachi may have a potential to stomp on minato, but that is an interesting match. That's actually a match where i see itachi could potentially get stomped, or do the stomping.
 

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That's not a match, that's a stomp.

Great shark bullet pisses on Kakuzu.

lol Read this Sir


*edit Credit goes to negative knight
 

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lol Read this Sir


*edit Credit goes to negative knight

That was just a thread listing their capabilities. Kisame still trashes him. Granted i glanced at the thread and someone's rebuttal, but kakuzu loses.
 

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That was just a thread listing their capabilities. Kisame still trashes him. Granted i glanced at the thread and someone's rebuttal, but kakuzu loses.

Please Kisame and kakuzu are a 50/50 matchup the slightest thing changes the outcome there is no stomp,pissing on or trashing that goes on .... Water<Earth so practically nothing is getting through domu of kisame's then Water dome is countered By his hearts Escaping on their own Then either Evaporating part of the the dome ... with wind+fire making easier for kakuzu to escape. Or Blasting it with lightning injuring both ..
GSB is penetrated with Kakuzu's Earth Grundge Fear The threads Would still make it through the Bullet ... Thats If GSB penetrates Domu because once again Water<earth ..

Now Kisame's healing properties would be A big problem for kakuzu however... I would like to know if GSB can breach Domu although i dont believe it can because it is listed as water release ...
 

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Please Kisame and kakuzu are a 50/50 matchup the slightest thing changes the outcome there is no stomp,pissing on or trashing that goes on .... Water<Earth so practically nothing is getting through domu of kisame's then Water dome is countered By his hearts Escaping on their own Then either Evaporating part of the the dome ... with wind+fire making easier for kakuzu to escape. Or Blasting it with lightning injuring both ..
GSB is penetrated with Kakuzu's Earth Grundge Fear The threads Would still make it through the Bullet ... Thats If GSB penetrates Domu because once again Water<earth ..

Now Kisame's healing properties would be A big problem for kakuzu however... I would like to know if GSB can breach Domu although i dont believe it can because it is listed as water release ...

I read one guys rebuttal. And a bunch of what he was saying wasn't even being countered.
Everything else you listed after 'nothing is getting through domu' doesn't make sense. Domu is useless if kakuzu has no chakra. GSB doesn't need to penetrate domu, it just needs to kill some masks.
 

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I read one guys rebuttal. And a bunch of what he was saying wasn't even being countered.
Everything else you listed after 'nothing is getting through domu' doesn't make sense. Domu is useless if kakuzu has no chakra. GSB doesn't need to penetrate domu, it just needs to kill some masks.

But there spread Out And while attacking the masks he would leave himself open to be hit with Jutsu?

And how would kakuzu not have chakra ?
 

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But there spread Out And while attacking the masks he would leave himself open to be hit with Jutsu?

And how would kakuzu not have chakra ?

I don't understand how he'd be open. You said GSB, i just said GSB would lkill the masks. GSB is a very massive attack. It's quite possibly the size of gamabunta if you look at it.

He won't have chakra because kisame absorbs chakra, especially in giant water shark prison. The thing is, kakuzu will continually lose chakra (through using jutsu and it being absorbed) and even lose some of his jutsu when his masks are absorbed, but kisame will always be tipping over 90% because of his chakra absorption. I.E Kakuzu will get weaker as the fight drags on at a much faster rate than kisame. If kisame gets weaker at all.
 

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I don't understand how he'd be open. You said GSB, i just said GSB would lkill the masks. GSB is a very massive attack. It's quite possibly the size of gamabunta if you look at it.

He won't have chakra because kisame absorbs chakra, especially in giant water shark prison. The thing is, kakuzu will continually lose chakra (through using jutsu and it being absorbed) and even lose some of his jutsu when his masks are absorbed, but kisame will always be tipping over 90% because of his chakra absorption. I.E Kakuzu will get weaker as the fight drags on at a much faster rate than kisame. If kisame gets weaker at all.

But i stated kakuzu would escape Giant water prision Rather quickley he may of lost a bit of chakra but he has 5 chakra networks he may not have as much as kisame but he was never shown to get tired or fatigued when fighting oh around 7 people . And GSB Cant attack in more then one direction if a heart is too the left And kakuzu is to the right it wont be able to attack both ... Besides Can he even use that out of water?
 

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But i stated kakuzu would escape Giant water prision Rather quickley he may of lost a bit of chakra but he has 5 chakra networks he may not have as much as kisame but he was never shown to get tired or fatigued when fighting oh around 7 people . And GSB Cant attack in more then one direction if a heart is too the left And kakuzu is to the right it wont be able to attack both ... Besides Can he even use that out of water?

Kakuzu can't escape water prison if kisame is hunting him down. Kisame is his fastest in water when fused with samehade. Kisame can choose to either hunt kakuzu till he dies, or kisame can hunt the masks and kill them off with shark missiles etc. Either way, kakuzu will be dead in a small water prison ( held by a water clone) while kisame stands by him waiting for the masks to return to revive him - then kisame would kill the masks - or kisame would kill all the masks while kakuzu escapes and now kakuzu is down to 1 more life and no access to any of his other jutsu.

It won't be an easy fight ofcourse, but the end result is kakuzu being drained of all his chakra and his masks being destroyed. GSB and especially giant water prison: shark dance are two attack kakuzu has no defence for. Even 1000 shark missiles would be enough to get kakuzu to exhaust a large chunk of chakra defending against.

I doubt he can use it out of water, but he has no reason to not be in water. The guy creates his own lakes with either water shock wave, or giant shock wave(which evidentally creates giant water dome).
 

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Kakuzu can't escape water prison if kisame is hunting him down. Kisame is his fastest in water when fused with samehade. Kisame can choose to either hunt kakuzu till he dies, or kisame can hunt the masks and kill them off with shark missiles etc. Either way, kakuzu will be dead in a small water prison ( held by a water clone) while kisame stands by him waiting for the masks to return to revive him - then kisame would kill the masks - or kisame would kill all the masks while kakuzu escapes and now kakuzu is down to 1 more life and no access to any of his other jutsu.

It won't be an easy fight ofcourse, but the end result is kakuzu being drained of all his chakra and his masks being destroyed. GSB and especially giant water prison: shark dance are two attack kakuzu has no defence for. Even 1000 shark missiles would be enough to get kakuzu to exhaust a large chunk of chakra defending against.

I doubt he can use it out of water, but he has no reason to not be in water. The guy creates his own lakes with either water shock wave, or giant shock wave(which evidentally creates giant water dome).

100 water shark dance would not break through domu and the lightning mask could simply electrocute the water ... And Kisame Cant hunt down all of the hearts without kakuzu escaping Kisame is fast in the water but not fast enough to hunt down 5 swimming objects If the fire and wind make it out then they will evaporate portions of the water with fire+wind aif the lightning heart escapes then it will fry the water killing or incapatitating them both ..while kakuzu has hearts to spare kisame does not however if the lightning+water does not kill kisame it all depends on who heals first kakuzu or kisame ... And You are assuming they have intel for kisame to just stand there And wait for kakuzu to revive if thats the case then he would avoid water dome altogether .....
 

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100 water shark dance would not break through domu and the lightning mask could simply electrocute the water ... And Kisame Cant hunt down all of the hearts without kakuzu escaping Kisame is fast in the water but not fast enough to hunt down 5 swimming objects If the fire and wind make it out then they will evaporate portions of the water with fire+wind aif the lightning heart escapes then it will fry the water killing or incapatitating them both ..while kakuzu has hearts to spare kisame does not however if the lightning+water does not kill kisame it all depends on who heals first kakuzu or kisame ... And You are assuming they have intel for kisame to just stand there And wait for kakuzu to revive if thats the case then he would avoid water dome altogether .....

Shark dance isn't meant to break through domu. stop talking about domu, idc about domu nor am i trying to break it. I'm talking about draining kakuzu's chakra or destroying masks.
Kisame can use shark missiles under water, hence why i said he'd use shark missiles to help hunt down masks. The masks aren't that resilient, nor are they able to use domu. A barrage of exploding missiles is enough to destroy them. Kisame doesn't need to be in close proximity to the masks like with bee. he was trying to catch bee, not kill him. So, for this situation, he can go on the hunt and send out attack jutsu to kill the masks and kakuzu. Kakuzu would survive because of domu, but the masks won't. Seeing as kisame is able to sense all chakra in water dome, nothing is escaping his site.


The fire+wind attack isn't enough to evaporate a large enough portion of the water dome.

Assuming the mask is even able to produce enough electricity to electrocute anyone in that massive dome, samehade(which is fused into kisame) would absorb all that lightning chakra before it posed a threat. Kisame has been shown to absorb lightning chakra from bee twice. Even if we assume it doesn't absorb that chakra, kakuzu and potentially 4 of his hearts are now gone. and kisame would heal.


Alright, kisame has no knowledge. So, after all of this, he's killed kakuzu and goes on the hunt for the other 4 masks (which wouldn't have even escaped). Assuming they left the dome, he can defuse with samehade and drop water dome and use create a large lake instead. So, kisame now goes after the other masks but see's that they ran back to kakuzu to heal him. What now? Kisame has figured that the masks are the key and that they can revive kakuzu. He redoes water dome, and repeats the process of draining kakuzu to death. Kakuzu has now lost another heart and kisame now knows not to let the masks re-fuse(even though they'd already have been destroyed by shark missles and GSB in the water dome). Kisame now makes a water clone sit under his large lake with the, once again, dead kakuzu and it's check mate. the masks have to get around kisame, then swim under water (which kisame is better at), avoid water missiles and considering kisame can use water missle on the surface, if the electric mask tries to destroy them under water, it will inevitably destroy the other masks.

This once again assumes that kisame doesn't target the electric mask first because he sees that it poses a threat. Nothing in kakuzu's arsenal could put kisame down, let alone possibly even hurt him.

Wind jutsu - beaten by samehade absorption or water shockwave
water or lightning jutsu - absorbed by samehada
Fire jutsu - samehade or water attack
air + fire jutsu - Samehade or giant water shock wave. That attack won't be able to evaporate a giant water dome. In the first place, kisame could just dive under the massive lake he would have inevitably created from the start.

Now do you see how much assumptions have to be made for kakuzu to, not win, but survive? the fact that domu is an ultimate defence won't help kakuzu because it won't protect him from chakra drain.

Earth grudge V2 won't be of any use either, because Giant water prison: shark dance would beat it.

One last thing, kakuzu can be simply left to drown in water dome.
 

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Shark dance isn't meant to break through domu. stop talking about domu, idc about domu nor am i trying to break it. I'm talking about draining kakuzu's chakra or destroying masks.
Kisame can use shark missiles under water, hence why i said he'd use shark missiles to help hunt down masks. The masks aren't that resilient, nor are they able to use domu. A barrage of exploding missiles is enough to destroy them. Kisame doesn't need to be in close proximity to the masks like with bee. he was trying to catch bee, not kill him. So, for this situation, he can go on the hunt and send out attack jutsu to kill the masks and kakuzu. Kakuzu would survive because of domu, but the masks won't. Seeing as kisame is able to sense all chakra in water dome, nothing is escaping his site.


The fire+wind attack isn't enough to evaporate a large enough portion of the water dome.

Assuming the mask is even able to produce enough electricity to electrocute anyone in that massive dome, samehade(which is fused into kisame) would absorb all that lightning chakra before it posed a threat. Kisame has been shown to absorb lightning chakra from bee twice. Even if we assume it doesn't absorb that chakra, kakuzu and potentially 4 of his hearts are now gone. and kisame would heal.


Alright, kisame has no knowledge. So, after all of this, he's killed kakuzu and goes on the hunt for the other 4 masks (which wouldn't have even escaped). Assuming they left the dome, he can defuse with samehade and drop water dome and use create a large lake instead. So, kisame now goes after the other masks but see's that they ran back to kakuzu to heal him. What now? Kisame has figured that the masks are the key and that they can revive kakuzu. He redoes water dome, and repeats the process of draining kakuzu to death. Kakuzu has now lost another heart and kisame now knows not to let the masks re-fuse(even though they'd already have been destroyed by shark missles and GSB in the water dome). Kisame now makes a water clone sit under his large lake with the, once again, dead kakuzu and it's check mate. the masks have to get around kisame, then swim under water (which kisame is better at), avoid water missiles and considering kisame can use water missle on the surface, if the electric mask tries to destroy them under water, it will inevitably destroy the other masks.

This once again assumes that kisame doesn't target the electric mask first because he sees that it poses a threat. Nothing in kakuzu's arsenal could put kisame down, let alone possibly even hurt him.

Wind jutsu - beaten by samehade absorption or water shockwave
water or lightning jutsu - absorbed by samehada
Fire jutsu - samehade or water attack
air + fire jutsu - Samehade or giant water shock wave. That attack won't be able to evaporate a giant water dome. In the first place, kisame could just dive under the massive lake he would have inevitably created from the start.

Now do you see how much assumptions have to be made for kakuzu to, not win, but survive? the fact that domu is an ultimate defence won't help kakuzu because it won't protect him from chakra drain.

Earth grudge V2 won't be of any use either, because Giant water prison: shark dance would beat it.

One last thing, kakuzu can be simply left to drown in water dome.

hmm that was rather good .. although 1000 shark dance is not a chakra draining mood .. but all this is based on the fact that kakuzu would be trapped in water dome .. If kakuzu avoides it and goes directly in to long range he has a giant chance of winning Because Samaheida has been Shown to have trouble Absorbing Fire So kakuzu in v2 long range mode spamming wind+fire would cause a giant problem for kisame ... so you have assured that kisame would most likely win If kakuzu gets trapped in water dome however kisame has to fuse before he can do that and kakuzu spamming wind +fire is the perfect Counter for stopping kisame from fusing .. IMO No matter the outcome this is a ext high diff.. and would be a great battle to see .. Kisame wins if He can trap kakuzu in water dome but long range v2 kakuzu could out match Kisame outside the dome
 

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hmm that was rather good .. although 1000 shark dance is not a chakra draining mood .. but all this is based on the fact that kakuzu would be trapped in water dome .. If kakuzu avoides it and goes directly in to long range he has a giant chance of winning Because Samaheida has been Shown to have trouble Absorbing Fire So kakuzu in v2 long range mode spamming wind+fire would cause a giant problem for kisame ... so you have assured that kisame would most likely win If kakuzu gets trapped in water dome however kisame has to fuse before he can do that and kakuzu spamming wind +fire is the perfect Counter for stopping kisame from fusing .. IMO No matter the outcome this is a ext high diff.. and would be a great battle to see .. Kisame wins if He can trap kakuzu in water dome but long range v2 kakuzu could out match Kisame outside the dome

Never said kisame could win easily lol. He's only able to win by draining all of kakuzu's chakra so he can't use domu lol.
 

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Never said kisame could win easily lol. He's only able to win by draining all of kakuzu's chakra so he can't use domu lol.

True that man ... Your starting to become not only one of my favorite people on the base but one of the ones i respect the most xd :bouncy:
 

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True that man ... Your starting to become not only one of my favorite people on the base but one of the ones i respect the most xd :bouncy:
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I need to get some tissue to wipe this tear from my eye. ***** for flattery. I'm weak :flirty:
 
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