As im sure most people do not know much about the governement shutdown, I chose to make a thread to highlight what is happening.
(in no way do i mean by my title, that anyone reading is a dummie. It is simply a attention grabbing title, that is related to the series of books, How to ***** for dummies. It is mostly to present some facts, that quite a few people may not know)
Fact 1.
Fact 2.
Fact 3.
Fact 4.
Fact 5.
Fact 6.
The VERY REASONABLE COMPROMISING measure passed by the house before the shut down.
Summary.
(in no way do i mean by my title, that anyone reading is a dummie. It is simply a attention grabbing title, that is related to the series of books, How to ***** for dummies. It is mostly to present some facts, that quite a few people may not know)
Fact 1.
A government shutdown, is nothing new, and is not as apocalyptic as the media tried to portay. It has happened 17 times(18 includeing the current one).
Fact 2.
Employees who are affected by the shutdown, will receive back pay(pay for all the work they WOULD HAVE done)
Fact 3.
In this current shutdown, the senate/president, are trying to make it as painful as possible.(though it is ineffective).
This can be shown, by simply looking at the national mall. They are barricadeing the memorials, even though they are open air. The only effect on the national mall, should be its facilities(museums and bathrooms etc) would be closed.
Also there are instances of federally owned, but state funded facilities being closed. Only things which are actually funded federal government need to be closed.
Also the senate, and president, refuse to approve of measures passed, to restore funding to things that are currently not funded such as the national parks. The house already approved such measures. It is only the senate and president, who stand in the way of those measures being approved and implemented.
This can be shown, by simply looking at the national mall. They are barricadeing the memorials, even though they are open air. The only effect on the national mall, should be its facilities(museums and bathrooms etc) would be closed.
Also there are instances of federally owned, but state funded facilities being closed. Only things which are actually funded federal government need to be closed.
Also the senate, and president, refuse to approve of measures passed, to restore funding to things that are currently not funded such as the national parks. The house already approved such measures. It is only the senate and president, who stand in the way of those measures being approved and implemented.
What is a government shutdown? It is simply where certain parts of the federal government are temporarily not funded.
Fact 5.
87% of the federal governent is still funded. Only 13% has been shutdown.
The shutdown is caused by the senate house and president, who are all being unyielding.
There is not one branch to blame, it is caused by all 3.
There is not one branch to blame, it is caused by all 3.
The VERY REASONABLE COMPROMISING measure passed by the house before the shut down.
The government shutdown, wouldve never happened, if the senate and president, agreed to the measure passed by the house on September 30
Here is pretty much what that measure is.
Pretty much what that means, is that EVERYTHING, would be funded INCLUDEING OBAMACARE, if the senate and president simply agrees to DELAY the INDIVIDUAL MANDATE set by obamacares implimentation, by 1 year(which by the way, buisness', and organizations already have)
What that means, is that all the senate and president had to do was was simply agree to give the individual person, the same treatment with the health insurance mandate, as THEY ALREADY AGREED TO DO with BIG BUSINESS'!
Anyone who wanted obamacare, COULD STILLsign up for it. Simply people would not be FORCED to get it until next year.
THAT IS A VERY REASONABLE AGREEMENT. If the president and the senate, had a SINGLE COMPROMISING CELL IN THEIR BODY, they wouldve signed it.
But instead, as they have shown time and time again, they live by the belief of "MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY"
Here is pretty much what that measure is.
Continuing resolution (H. Res. 368): insists on plan to fund the government running at current spending levels; ensure there’s no special treatment for Congress under the president’s health care law; delays ObamaCare’s individual mandate, providing all Americans with the same relief the president has given big businesses; and requests a formal House-Senate conference to resolve differences.
Pretty much what that means, is that EVERYTHING, would be funded INCLUDEING OBAMACARE, if the senate and president simply agrees to DELAY the INDIVIDUAL MANDATE set by obamacares implimentation, by 1 year(which by the way, buisness', and organizations already have)
What that means, is that all the senate and president had to do was was simply agree to give the individual person, the same treatment with the health insurance mandate, as THEY ALREADY AGREED TO DO with BIG BUSINESS'!
Anyone who wanted obamacare, COULD STILLsign up for it. Simply people would not be FORCED to get it until next year.
THAT IS A VERY REASONABLE AGREEMENT. If the president and the senate, had a SINGLE COMPROMISING CELL IN THEIR BODY, they wouldve signed it.
But instead, as they have shown time and time again, they live by the belief of "MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY"
Summary.
The senate and president, as usual, say they will sit down and talk about all of this, AFTER they already get what they want.
(simply they say "go do exactly what we want, and we will discuss compromise.
If they get what they want, they will sit down, and then go "haha we got what we wanted so screw you")
(or its like you go to a car dealership, to sell a car you dont want anymore(you have a nice car, you simply want a nicer one), and the salesman says to you "We will negiotiate the amount ill pay you for your car, after you sign over the title to me." Once you sign over the title though, it isnt your car anymore, and he can just walk away and laugh, because you gave your car away for free, while you are just stuck carless, and got absolutely nothing)
Meanwhile, the house has actually passed a VERY REASONABLE compromise already.
Even though the house is opposed to obamacare, THEY reached down the aisle, and AGREED to FULLY FUND THE GOVERNMENT, AND OBAMACARE, on the SIMPLE CONDITION, that the individual person, is NOT FORCED to buy insurance for 1 year, which the house senate and president already approved previously for BIG BUSINESS', UNIONS etc.
If the senate and president simply approved that measure(which wouldve stopped the shutdown from happening at all), then all the people who wanted to sign up for obamacare, wouldve been able to, while the people who did'nt want obamacare, wouldnt be forced to sign up for ONE YEAR(which again, all business', and unions etc, already have the 1 year before they have to be part of the program,(this was approved by the president and congress quite some time before the shutdown was approaching)
Lastly, the president and senate, are doing all they can to make the shutdown as painful as possible so they can blame the house for it.(go see the stories of them PAYING MORE MONEY blocking scenic overlooks, that dont require any funding other than possibly to pay a guy to change a garbage can. They spend more money bringing the cones and barricades to block access to these overlooks and parks, than it costs to upkeep them at all)
There are many more examples that prove this point.
The simple fact is, the senate and president, could easily agree to the small compromise, and fix all this mess, but they are unwilling to do any compromises at all, and will not settle for anything other than "my way or the highway"
(simply they say "go do exactly what we want, and we will discuss compromise.
If they get what they want, they will sit down, and then go "haha we got what we wanted so screw you")
(or its like you go to a car dealership, to sell a car you dont want anymore(you have a nice car, you simply want a nicer one), and the salesman says to you "We will negiotiate the amount ill pay you for your car, after you sign over the title to me." Once you sign over the title though, it isnt your car anymore, and he can just walk away and laugh, because you gave your car away for free, while you are just stuck carless, and got absolutely nothing)
Meanwhile, the house has actually passed a VERY REASONABLE compromise already.
Even though the house is opposed to obamacare, THEY reached down the aisle, and AGREED to FULLY FUND THE GOVERNMENT, AND OBAMACARE, on the SIMPLE CONDITION, that the individual person, is NOT FORCED to buy insurance for 1 year, which the house senate and president already approved previously for BIG BUSINESS', UNIONS etc.
If the senate and president simply approved that measure(which wouldve stopped the shutdown from happening at all), then all the people who wanted to sign up for obamacare, wouldve been able to, while the people who did'nt want obamacare, wouldnt be forced to sign up for ONE YEAR(which again, all business', and unions etc, already have the 1 year before they have to be part of the program,(this was approved by the president and congress quite some time before the shutdown was approaching)
Lastly, the president and senate, are doing all they can to make the shutdown as painful as possible so they can blame the house for it.(go see the stories of them PAYING MORE MONEY blocking scenic overlooks, that dont require any funding other than possibly to pay a guy to change a garbage can. They spend more money bringing the cones and barricades to block access to these overlooks and parks, than it costs to upkeep them at all)
There are many more examples that prove this point.
The simple fact is, the senate and president, could easily agree to the small compromise, and fix all this mess, but they are unwilling to do any compromises at all, and will not settle for anything other than "my way or the highway"
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