Gotta love how everyone is suddenly an expert art critique

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Is it a reliable source of income in the NV? I don't believe it is.

It isn't an anime, dumbass, It's a manga. Naruto has been transforming into a girl since part 1. You're bringing up prostitution even though she isn't. You're bringing up child pornography even though it isn't. What your point? You don't like the dress? you think it shows too much? Okay, deal with it bitch. The dress doesn't increase rape at all since she doesn't exist and the only one who decides that matter is the creator.

Spiderman could be raped if it was written to be so. As of now she's fine idk what your deal is.

Didn't Jiraiya pay for hookers or something similar. People do things to get what they want. Some more desperate than others. Anyway, Naruto is based off of feudal Japan with geisha etc.

Lol you getting rustled. What does manga get converted to, darling? :Sparks: I was obviously talking about Naruto as a whole. Your frustration is messing up your comprehension.

Naruto transformed into a girl for comic relief or a distraction which is actually beneficial. Deep down, it's a boy having the craic with an artificial body. This little girl is just showing off skin for what? Woah nelly. Chill Nips. Kinda funny cuz out of all the usual erotic areas, just about all Sarada has covered up are her nips XD

Anyone can be raped. Spiderman is irrelevant. Dat pulling at straws. If this was the real World with paedophiles. The dress would entice them and you know it but you've dug your hole and are too stubborn to not stick to your guns no matter how many people disagree.

Just because you don't like snuff movies, it doesn't mean they're not a bad thing. Same for half naked little girls.

Cho Chos is obviously longer & she is fatter meaning she gets less cloth coverage than she could be getting.

 

[shelke]

Nips sure is defending this shit. You like Loli?

 

[To Whatever]

Didn't Jiraiya pay for hookers or something similar. People do things to get what they want. Some more desperate than others. Anyway, Naruto is based off of feudal Japan with geisha etc.

Lol you getting rustled. What does manga get converted to, darling? :Sparks:

Naruto transformed into a girl for comic relief or a distraction which is actually beneficial. Deep down, it's a boy having the craic with an artificial body. This little girl is just showing off skin for what? Woah nelly. Chill Nips. Kinda funny cuz out of all the usual erotic areas, just about all Sarada has covered up are her nips XD

Anyone can be raped. Spiderman is irrelevant. Dat pulling at straws. If this was the real World with paedophiles. The dress would entice them and you know it but you've dug your hole and are too stubborn to not stick to your guns no matter how many people disagree.

Nah i'm not getting rustled. It's just bs that this come up when Sarada wears that yet chocho been wearing a similar outfit since the gaiden and all of the sudden everyone's #triggered. I mean what kind of shit is that? I'd prefer Sarada wear some pants or something but don't start with this whole "it's so slutty", "she could be raped".

Jiraiya didn't pay hookers, if you don't understand that then why are you even bringing it up. We don't even know if this series will get an anime, it may flop, so prematurely calling ti an anime is stupid.

Naruto transformed into a girl to get jiraiya to help him train, he did it to KB as well. It isn't pulling at straws. You're talking as if Sarada has any chance to be in a storyline where she's going to end up being raped or that her clothing choice would be written as enticing pedophiles. This isn't the real world, stop comparing a manga with supernatural child soldiers to real life.

Nips sure is defending this shit. You like Loli?

No, I don't. I just wanna know why they're all on Sarada when chocho was wearing something similar.

It makes me wonder how they view Sarada. Can you not control yourself in the presence of Sarada's dress code? if the first thing you think of is "You can probably see her panties if she jumps", "You can practically see her pre-teen vagina" and "The only thing thats covered up is her nips" I see a problem with that.

It's ****ing weird.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Nah i'm not getting rustled. It's just bs that this come up when Sarada wears that yet chocho been wearing a similar outfit since the gaiden and all of the sudden everyone's #triggered. I mean what kind of shit is that? I'd prefer Sarada wear some pants or something but don't start with this whole "it's so slutty", "she could be raped".

Jiraiya didn't pay hookers, if you don't understand that then why are you even bringing it up. We don't even know if this series will get an anime, it may flop, so prematurely calling ti an anime is stupid.

Naruto transformed into a girl to get jiraiya to help him train, he did it to KB as well. It isn't pulling at straws. You're talking as if Sarada has any chance to be in a storyline where she's going to end up being raped or that her clothing choice would be written as enticing pedophiles. This isn't the real world, stop comparing a manga with supernatural child soldiers to real life.



No, I don't. I just wanna know why they're all on Sarada when chocho was wearing something similar.

It makes me wonder how they view Sarada.

Not getting rustled yet you're calling me names? Mmkay.

It is slutty. She obviously wont be raped because it's Naruto. I've explained all this including Cho Chos outfit.

Nips. You're getting thick on me now. I just told you I was evaluating Naruto anime as a whole and how we've never seen anything slutty like that on a lil girl. The anime is ongoing so yeah...there's goes that argument. I barely remember part 1. I don't re-watch multiple times. They wanted him for something else anyway. You can't have poverty, war, both sexes & not have prostitution. Aaaaaanyway. Getting off track. New outfit is ****ed up. It's clear to 99% of people.

I just explained how Naruto used a fake grown up body to benefit him. Meanwhile Sarada looks like she's doing that minus the transformation. Which is ****ed. 12 y/o being a tramp to get what they want. That okay to you? It's that or she's just a **** doing it for no reason. It's not like her AT ALL. You brought Spiderman into this...that's pulling at straws. I already explained that rape wouldn't happen in this manga. Stop using my words against me because you've none of your own.

As I said. You may not be affected by snuff movies in your day to day life/reality but it doesn't mean they're not right.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Nah i'm not getting rustled. It's just bs that this come up when Sarada wears that yet chocho been wearing a similar outfit since the gaiden and all of the sudden everyone's #triggered. I mean what kind of shit is that? I'd prefer Sarada wear some pants or something but don't start with this whole "it's so slutty", "she could be raped".

Jiraiya didn't pay hookers, if you don't understand that then why are you even bringing it up. We don't even know if this series will get an anime, it may flop, so prematurely calling ti an anime is stupid.

Naruto transformed into a girl to get jiraiya to help him train, he did it to KB as well. It isn't pulling at straws. You're talking as if Sarada has any chance to be in a storyline where she's going to end up being raped or that her clothing choice would be written as enticing pedophiles. This isn't the real world, stop comparing a manga with supernatural child soldiers to real life.



No, I don't. I just wanna know why they're all on Sarada when chocho was wearing something similar.

It makes me wonder how they view Sarada. Can you not control yourself in the presence of Sarada's dress code? if the first thing you think of is "You can probably see her panties if she jumps", "You can practically see her pre-teen vagina" and "The only thing thats covered up is her nips" I see a problem with that.

It's ****ing weird.

cho'cho's wasn't that short. Like im lookin at salada's bare ass right now. Where as chocho had a pencil skirt that in no way shape or form flares up.

 

[shelke]

No, I don't. I just wanna know why they're all on Sarada when chocho was wearing something similar.

It makes me wonder how they view Sarada. Can you not control yourself in the presence of Sarada's dress code? if the first thing you think of is "You can probably see her panties if she jumps", "You can practically see her pre-teen vagina" and "The only thing thats covered up is her nips" I see a problem with that.

It's ****ing weird.

I never liked Cho's design either. You cannot say that this isn't bad; when it is. It's not about control but representation. Look at her legs. They are deliberately designed to carefully conceal the area between her legs in an intentional upshot. It looks loose, crass and provocative.

 

[To Whatever]

Not getting rustled yet you're calling me names? Mmkay.

It is slutty. She obviously wont be raped because it's Naruto. I've explained all this including Cho Chos outfit.

Nips. You're getting thick on me now. I just told you I was evaluating Naruto anime as a whole and how we've never seen anything slutty like that on a lil girl. The anime is ongoing so yeah...there's goes that argument. I barely remember part 1. I don't re-watch multiple times. They wanted him for something else anyway. You can't have poverty, war, both sexes & not have prostitution. Aaaaaanyway. Getting off track. New outfitbis ****ed up.

I just explained how Naruto used a fake grown up body to benefit him. Meanwhile Sarada looks like she's doing that minus the transformation. Which is ****ed. 12 y/o being a tramp to get what they want. That okay to you? It's that or she's just a **** doing it for no reason. It's not like her AT ALL. You brought Spiderman into this...that's pulling at straws. I already explained that rape wouldn't happen in this manga. Stop using my words against me because you've none of your own.

As I said. You may not be affected by snuff movies in your day to day life/reality but it doesn't mean they're not right.

Where i'm from calling someone a dumbass is the equivalent of calling someone, "dude" or, "bruh". Your post content as been mostly about Sarada's potential rape, prostitution her vagina, and her nipples. That along with her relation in real life and calling it, "child porn"

Sorry Nips but we can nearly see her pre-teen vagina.

Lol sorry Nips but we can pretty much see a portion of her ass with that camera angle.

. Would you let your 12 year old out like that to other countries to fight? Of course not. It's not a damn dress. It's smaller than a mini skirt.

@bold: In most cases, a twelve year old wouldn't be dressed as a prostitute

Child pornography however The dress will increase chances of things like rape.

I used spiderman as an example. He could be raped but he won't. Unless someone gives that story-line.

I never liked Cho's design either. You cannot say that this isn't bad; when it is. It's not about control but representation. Look at her legs. They are deliberately designed to carefully conceal the area between her legs in an intentional upshot. It looks loose, crass and provocative.

I get that. It's provocative for no reason at all. It is bad and it should definitely be changed. But jumping to saying things like Pokayo has said is a bit much in my opinion. Naruto shouldn't be equated to real life in any situation.

I was more focused on everyone else having "chunky same face syndrome" and how impractical her heels were.

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How the fuck you gonna fight in those...



Especially when your attacks destroys the ground you walk on.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Where i'm from calling someone a dumbass is the equivalent of calling someone, "dude" or, "bruh". Your post content as been mostly about Sarada's potential rape, prostitution her vagina, and her nipples. That along with her relation in real life and calling it, "child porn"









I used spiderman as an example. He could be raped but he won't. Unless someone gives that story-line.

Lol it's funny because you're trying to take the moral high ground when you're nearly the only one supporting this 12 year old flashing and my argument has a shit tonne of hyperbole & sarcasm because your argument is so bad & stupid.

Spiderman isn't a pre-pubescent girl dressing like a ho. We've been through this, yet you parrot the same countered and obselete points repeatedly. She won't get raped but that doesn't mean dressing like she does is justified. There's no connection or provocation on spidermans behalf to lead to that storyline. Stop using that pathetic excuse. We all know what this is even though Sarada hasn't faced any consequences in the actual story over this, for obvious reasons that I've already mentioned.

Lol @ Nips now backing down

 

[To Whatever]

Lol it's funny because you're trying to take the moral high ground when you're nearly the only one supporting this 12 year old flashing and my argument has a shit tonne of hyperbole & sarcasm because your argument is so bad & stupid.

Spiderman isn't a pre-pubescent girl dressing like a ho. We've been through this, yet you parrot the same countered and obselete points repeatedly. She won't get raped but that doesn't mean dressing like she does is justified. There's no connection or provocation on spidermans behalf to lead to that storyline. Stop using that pathetic excuse. We all know what this is even though Sarada hasn't faced any consequences for obvious reasons.

Where was I supporting it. I already said I didn't like it. If you don't see where I stand then i'll tell you:

-I don't agree with her dress

-It should be changed

-This should have happened when chocho wore the similar outfit in the gaiden, yet people were too focused on Sarada's belly button and her ass.

-This series shouldn't be equated to real life: When I say that I mean, saying things as, "She could be raped or, she's enticing rape from characters and real life people", "Would you let your child solider kid dress like that?"

- You shouldn't overreact by saying how you can see a 12 year old's Vagina and ass, or about her nipples. Even if you're being sarcastic or whatever. It comes off as creepy and the gives me the impression that this is what you thought of the first time you saw her.


Do you understand now?

I've edited the spiderman quote moments after I posted and replaced it with "characters" because I knew you'd be like, "Spiderman isn't a pre-pubescent girl".

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Where was I supporting it. I already said I didn't like it. If you don't see where I stand then i'll tell you:

-I don't agree with her dress

-It should be changed

-This should have happened when chocho wore the similar outfit in the gaiden, yet people were too focused on Sarada's belly button and her ass.

-This series shouldn't be equated to real life: Meaning saying things as, "She could be raped or, she's enticing rape from characters and real life people", "Would you let your child solider kid dress like that?"

- You shouldn't overreact by saying how you can see a 12 year old's Vagina and ass, or about her nipples.

It's funny because you can't get away with your initial views so you're now trying to compromise and blend/settle debates.

We've been passed this. Parroting countered points again that multiple peeps pointed out the things wrong with.

Certain things can definitely be compared to real life since it's heavily based off real life settings & religions/lifestyles

It's mostly hyperbole. Don't respond until you wrap your gead around that. Nice debating against you for once though

@bold: I'm not overreacting. You can literally see part of her ass and her legs are positioned in a way that you cannot see her fanny.

Your entire post nearly was you complaining about the way I make my points/countered yours. It's a dry, logical, ealistic style. Get over it.

 

[davidou]

Nah i'm not getting rustled. It's just bs that this come up when Sarada wears that yet chocho been wearing a similar outfit since the gaiden and all of the sudden everyone's #triggered. I mean what kind of shit is that? I'd prefer Sarada wear some pants or something but don't start with this whole "it's so slutty", "she could be raped".

Jiraiya didn't pay hookers, if you don't understand that then why are you even bringing it up. We don't even know if this series will get an anime, it may flop, so prematurely calling ti an anime is stupid.

Naruto transformed into a girl to get jiraiya to help him train, he did it to KB as well. It isn't pulling at straws. You're talking as if Sarada has any chance to be in a storyline where she's going to end up being raped or that her clothing choice would be written as enticing pedophiles. This isn't the real world, stop comparing a manga with supernatural child soldiers to real life.



No, I don't. I just wanna know why they're all on Sarada when chocho was wearing something similar.

It makes me wonder how they view Sarada. Can you not control yourself in the presence of Sarada's dress code? if the first thing you think of is "You can probably see her panties if she jumps", "You can practically see her pre-teen vagina" and "The only thing thats covered up is her nips" I see a problem with that.

It's ****ing weird.

It's not similar, you are in deny.
Even the mature woman that is Robin wears longer skirts.

 

[SatanicGod]

The issue is that this new artist is taking on another artist's work. If this artist was not continuing such a popular manga then we wouldn't judge the art so badly...but this guy is messing up extremely beloved characters. Characters that already have certain personality traits and designs set in place. Boruto just looks really bad for a main character. Out of everyone Boruto should have been drawn the best. His whole design looks really childish, especially with that outfit he has on now. And Sarada's look is not reflecting her personality at all. It's very clearly fan service...If anything we have a right to be annoyed about the fan service.

I'll give the artist another chance when I see the first monthly manga. I hope the story is still good regardless..but these aren't good signs.

What if Mitsuki is the main character, I mean Sarada had Gaiden, Boruto had a movie, Mitsuki had ???

 

[shelke]

I get that. It's provocative for no reason at all. It is bad and it should definitely be changed. But jumping to saying things like Pokayo has said is a bit much in my opinion. Naruto shouldn't be equated to real life in any situation.

I was more focused on everyone else having "chunky same face syndrome" and how impractical her heels were.

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How the fuck you gonna fight in those...


Especially when your attacks destroys the ground you walk on.

I haven't read all of his posts, so I really cannot comment. But, from my view, all art is based on life one way or another. The characters are created with illusions of being human. That is why we are capable of talking about their motivations, psyche and emotional aspects because they are relatable on this front; relatable on being human in these aspects.

So, it really isn't about Naruto's world being equated with ours, but chunks of it can be. Take politics and Realpolitik, for example. One can take examples out of Naruto and disect them with ones knowledge of how corruption in political ranks, arbitrary rule and cross-border terrorism can affect people economically in case of Rain bearing the brunt of it, and Konoha reaping the fruit.

You can also comment, that 'Idolatry of Democracy' is, in many cases, a more warped version of religious worship. Shikamaru putting 'will of Fire' over Hidan's religion and exhibiting self-righteousness in the process was one such incident. My point being that a comparison can be created. One just has to be selective and careful of the comparison.

It's not about her being raped (he could have put this more thoughtfully), but about the kind of sexual pandering the image is unabashedly showing. That is the actual disturbing aspect of it for me. The heels are something Kishimoto appears to be quite fond of as well. Most female ninjas wear them. They look absurd to me ... always have.

 

[To Whatever]

It's funny because you can't get away with your initial views so you're now trying to compromise and blend/settle debates.

We've been passed this. Parroting countered points again that multiple peeps pointed out.

Certain things can definitely be compared to real life since it's heavily based off real life settings & religions/lifestyles

It's mostly hyperbole. Don't respond until you wrap your gead around that.

I'm not trying to compromise. blend or settle the debate. Notice, you said, certain things. I never said all things in the manga shouldn't be equated to real life.

Even if you're being sarcastic, using hyperbole or whatever. It comes off as creepy and the gives me the impression that this is what you thought of the first time you saw her.

Most people: It's short and needs to be changed

You: we can nearly see her pre-teen vagina.

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It's not similar, you are in deny.
Even the mature woman that is Robin wears longer skirts.

ChoCho's dress length is almost the same as Sarada's new dress.

I haven't read all of his posts, so I really cannot comment. But, from my view, all art is based on life one way or another. The characters are created with illusions of being human. That is why we are capable of talking about their motivations, psyche and emotional aspects because they are relatable on this front; relatable on being human in these aspects.

So, it really isn't about Naruto's world being equated with ours, but chunks of it can be. Take politics and Realpolitik, for example. One can take examples out of Naruto and disect them with ones knowledge of how corruption in political ranks, arbitrary rule and cross-border terrorism can affect people economically in case of Rain bearing the brunt of it, and Konoha reaping the fruit.

You can also comment, that 'Idolatry of Democracy' is, in many cases, a more warped version of religious worship. Shikamaru putting 'will of Fire' over Hidan's religion and exhibiting self-righteousness in the process was one such incident. My point being that a comparison can be created. One just has to be selective and careful of the comparison.

It's not about her being raped (he could ahve put this more thoughtfully), but about the kind of sexual pandering the image is unabashedly showing. That is the actual disturbing aspect of it for me. The heels is something Kishimoto appears to be quite fond of as well. Most female ninjas have them. They look absurd to me ... always have.

I said not all things can be equated. Like you said, chunks of it are. And I get what poyako is saying, his way of saying it is the only issue that's "fucking weird". The sexuality isn't what I had an issue with since I agreed on how it needed to be changed, it was more about him asking me whether i'd let my child solider out and about. What she's wearing is irrelevant at that point. Why in the hell would I let my kid be a child solider in the first place.

I feel the same about it @bold

 

[6thHokage]

I'm not trying to compromise. blend or settle the debate. Notice, you said, certain things. I never said all things in the manga shouldn't be equated to real life.

Even if you're being sarcastic, using hyperbole or whatever. It comes off as creepy and the gives me the impression that this is what you thought of the first time you saw her.

Most people: It's short and needs to be changed

You: we can nearly see her pre-teen vagina.

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ChoCho's dress length is almost the same as Sarada's new dress.



I said not all things can be equated. Like you said, chunks of it are. And I get what poyako is saying, his way of saying it is the only issue that's "fucking weird". The sexuality isn't what I had an issue with since I agreed on how it needed to be changed, it was more about him asking me whether i'd let my child solider out and about. What she's wearing is irrelevant at that point. Why in the hell would I let my kid be a child solider in the first place.

I feel the same about it @bold

Sarada is still showing more skin than Chocho.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

I'm not trying to compromise. blend or settle the debate. Notice, you said, certain things. I never said all things in the manga shouldn't be equated to real life.

Even if you're being sarcastic, using hyperbole or whatever. It comes off as creepy and the gives me the impression that this is what you thought of the first time you saw her.

Most people: It's short and needs to be changed

You: we can nearly see her pre-teen vagina.

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ChoCho's dress length is almost the same as Sarada's new dress.



I said not all things can be equated. Like you said, chunks of it are. And I get what poyako is saying, his way of saying it is the only issue that's "fucking weird"

I feel the same about it @bold

Nips. It's very ****ing simple, mate. NV and our Universe have 12 year old daughters. You wouldn't put yours in heels & that outfit. That's the entire point of this whole thing. You're just nitpicking and changing the subject to girls in the NV being slightly less vulnerable.

I'm being creepy when I'm against her outfit completely & you were the one kinda supporting it? Christ sakes Nips. This is retarded.

Ever listened to a comedian like Frankie Boyle? He gets his points across in the most brutal way possible to highlight his point. You're just crying over how harsh it is. The points still stand. You can't defend the new design in the slightest.

Follow my quote up with "for **** sake!!" And you may get a better idea of my tone. I was telling the truth. No one is that sensitive to that line. I just put it in a way you don't want to hear because the thoughts of the art showing Saradas private parts like they almost do, crushes anything you were trying to defend. You're just out of arguments.

My post was like a broken refrigerator. No chill. Don't cry over it.

 

[shelke]

I said not all things can be equated. Like you said, chunks of it are. And I get what poyako is saying, his way of saying it is the only issue that's "fucking weird". The sexuality isn't what I had an issue with since I agreed on how it needed to be changed, it was more about him asking me whether i'd let my child solider out and about. What she's wearing is irrelevant at that point. Why in the hell would I let my kid be a child solider in the first place.

I feel the same about it @bold[/B]

Child soldiers were pretty common in the past, as you had many 17-year-old military commanders or high ranking officials in history. Albeit Naruto is more 'modern' in presentation, nin-jutsu is a part of olden Japan. I think these are two seperate things you two are arguing about.

 

[oxtopus]

I don't see anything wrong with sarada's outfit it's okay if she has tights or shorts under the dress and it better suits her character as a young perv like her mother.^^^^Their just drawings and not real life put a sock in it,geez.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Child soldiers were pretty common in the past, as you had many 17-year-old military commanders or high ranking officials in history. Albeit Naruto is more 'modern' in presentation, nin-jutsu is a part of olden Japan. I think these are two seperate things you two are arguing about.

That's what I said. Those were the correlations between the two universes that I made. People can get their heads around young people fighting a lot more than needless child nudity for no apparent reason all of a sudden. Naruto has always featured young adults fighting and is almost for everyone. The same cant be said for the er...wardrobe malfunction. I don't blame you for not reading. It's a mess. Nips got caught up in the wrong areas of the comparisons, I think. I used this to show why there's such an issue with Sarada's appearance and not with her fighting.

 

[To Whatever]

Sarada is still showing more skin than Chocho.

Which is why it needs to be changed. both of them.

Nips. It's very ****ing simple, mate. NV and our Universe have 12 year old daughters. You wouldn't put yours in heels & that outfit. That's the entire point of this whole thing. You're just nitpicking and changing the subject to girls in the NV being slightly less vulnerable.

I'm being creepy when I'm against her outfit completely & you were the one kinda supporting it? Christ sakes Nips. This is retarded.

Ever listened to a comedian like Frankie Boyle? He gets his points across in the most brutal way possible to highlight his point. You're just crying over how harsh it is. The points still stand. You can't defend the new design in the slightest.

Follow my quote up with "for **** sake!!" And you may get a better idea of my tone. I was telling the truth. No one is that sensitive to that line. I just put it in a way you don't want to hear because the thoughts of the art showing Saradas private parts like they almost do, crushes anything you were trying to defend. You're just out of arguments.

My post was like a broken refrigerator. No chill. Don't cry over it.

First part: No shit, it's the obvious. That's why it needs to be changed

Second part: Yes, you are being creepy, you've mentioned her Vagina, ass and nipples. Is it that hard to say, "It's short, it needs to be changed". Nah, you gotta start talking about her panties n shit and how you can see her vagine. I wasn't supporting it.

The yoko thing meant: "It could be worse".

The chocho thing was: "Why are we just now talking about the design choice of the only 2 females (Save for himawari) dressing like that"

Third part: You know, saying "Nearly see her pre-teen vagina" implies you can nearly see it or that the artist drew her vagina and covered it up or some shit. So you weren't telling the truth. You put it in a way that was creepy. The thought of arts showing Sarada is irrelevent as there's naked art or porn of literally anything you can think of.

Child soldiers were pretty common in the past, as you had many 17-year-old military commanders or high ranking officials in history. Albeit Naruto is more 'modern' in presentation, nin-jutsu is a part of olden Japan. I think these are two seperate things you two are arguing about.

I know child soliders exist. In my country they don't at least, not anymore. 17 is more realistic than a 12 year old going to war even though both happen.