Good or Evil? Who are the real villains of the Narutoverse?

[Trollasaur]

Kisame was not pure evil in any sense.

Kisame lived to kill....

 

[Mitarashi]

Kisame lived to kill....

Kisame wasn't evil.
re-read the manga and try not to look at him as a Shark in the akatsuki.

 

[Trollasaur]

well that explains it then, you hate religion because you were forced into it

unlike you, I chose to believe in it. My family is atheist and I have my own reasons for believing in what I believe


believing what you can prove?

Can you prove the big bang? Evolution? Relativity?

No you cannot, because they're theories. A theory is something that doesn't have conclusive evidence either because we don't have the technology to prove it further or that it doesn't exist.


Science is in its core a theory. We only know less than 1% of the universe and you expect that we should know everything already.

Can you disprove god, an afterlife, or a higher power? No you can't


that's why people choose to believe in something.



So because religion is in a book you choose not to believe it? What about science books then?

Religion is completley faith based, it is impossible to prove it
Science is not, unlike religion theres evidence too back up theroies and in the future it's possible this theroey will become fact with more evidence

 

[Trollasaur]

Kisame wasn't evil.
re-read the manga and try not to look at him as a Shark in the akatsuki.

Dude he wasn't good, his purpose in life was too kill and fight thats it.

 

[Lightbringer]

I agree with everything except the last bit.
If he wanted too, he could have killed Obito the minute he was reanimated and then been completely free of any competition.
I genuinely think he's trying to help the world, but he's mainly doing it for his brothers I think.
The Uchiha love more than any, and he loved more than most, it's like Sasukes' will to destroy his only friends and his home for retribution for what his brother had to go though.

He's just trying to get revenge on a world that's hurt him and his people so much, but he still does want to 'help'.

he didn't kill obito because he still wanted to be resurrected by Rinne Tensei

Religion is completley faith based, it is impossible to prove it
Science is not, unlike religion theres evidence too back up theroies and in the future it's possible this theroey will become fact with more evidence

read my next comments

 

[Mitarashi]

he didn't kill obito because he still wanted to be resurrected by Rinne Tensei







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Why would he want that at this point.
He's got an immortal body that has unlimited chakra/regeneration.

 

[Gutsy]

the real villain is Orochimaru... just wait and see lol....

 

[Lightbringer]

Why would he want that at this point.
He's got an immortal body that has unlimited chakra/regeneration.

to become jinchuriki

even with an edo body, he would would still be overpowered by the four edo hokage and the shinobi alliance

him becoming the host of the juubi would grant him power beyond measure.

Just look at obito already having surpassed every character, imagine how much more powerful madara would be

with being the host, he'd have access to the creation of all things, the ultimate jutsu and become the ultimate undisputed power.

 

[Mitarashi]

to become jinchuriki

even with an edo body, he would would still be overpowered by the four edo hokage and the shinobi alliance

him becoming the host of the juubi would grant him power beyond measure.

Just look at obito already having surpassed every character, imagine how much more powerful madara would be

with being the host, he'd have access to the creation of all things, the ultimate jutsu and become the ultimate undisputed power.

Who says he doesn't have access to that jutsu?
He has the chakra.
he can use yin/yang jutsu ( That's how he made zetsu )

could be his trump card...
He could well split juubito into all the Bijuu's and then take control of them all.

 

[Lightbringer]

Who says he doesn't have access to that jutsu?
He has the chakra.
he can use yin/yang jutsu ( That's how he made zetsu )

could be his trump card...
He could well split juubito into all the Bijuu's and then take control of them all.

I think there's more to the jutsu than just using ying/yang chakra

Edos have unlimited chakra, but their initial chakra pool is the same.....they can't use techs that surpassed what they used when they were alive

That's why Muu couldn't use jinton when he split himself in half because he split his chakra pool in half.

The chakra pool has infinite regeneration, but their chakra amount is not infinite.

 

[Mitarashi]

I think there's more to the jutsu than just using ying/yang chakra

Edos have unlimited chakra, but their initial chakra pool is the same.....they can't use techs that surpassed what they used when they were alive

That's why Muu couldn't use jinton when he split himself in half because he split his chakra pool in half.

The chakra pool has infinite regeneration, but their chakra amount is not infinite.

I have no doubt Madara had enough chakra to do it in him prime, he just didn't have rinnegan in his prime, and it MIGHT have killed him if he wasn't edo.
So now he has everything he needs.

 

[Lightbringer]

I have no doubt Madara had enough chakra to do it in him prime, he just didn't have rinnegan in his prime, and it MIGHT have killed him if he wasn't edo.
So now he has everything he needs.

well we'll just have to wait and see

 

[Mitarashi]

well we'll just have to wait and see

And if that's what happens you've heard it here first ;D?

 

[H a n]

Define bad people. Most of them are good people corrupted by war during their time of living. Only people I can say that are a bit bad are Kisame, Kakuzu, Hidan and maybe Deidara but Oro was made into the creature he was because of what happened to his parents. Itachi killed off his clan for the better good of the village. Pein became what he was due to losing the people and dog that he had held close to him. Obito lost Rin and blah blah. Just about everyone has their reasons. Even Kurama has a reason for how he treated humans. 10 Tails could but we just don't know everything yet. o3o

 

[Mitarashi]

Define bad people. Most of them are good people corrupted by war during their time of living. Only people I can say that are a bit bad are Kisame, Kakuzu, Hidan and maybe Deidara but Oro was made into the creature he was because of what happened to his parents. Itachi killed off his clan for the better good of the village. Pein became what he was due to losing the people and dog that he had held close to him. Obito lost Rin and blah blah. Just about everyone has their reasons. Even Kurama has a reason for how he treated humans. 10 Tails could but we just don't know everything yet. o3o

Justification doesn't make what you did go away.

 

[SeriousDogg]

Orochimaru was part 1 Main Villain.

Uchiha Obito is part 2 Main Villain.

Orochimaru is evil indeed, experiments on living humans, thousands of prisoners...

Obito is also evil, his goal is to end humanity, and he got no emotions for killing peoples...

 

[Mitarashi]

Orochimaru was part 1 Main Villain.

Uchiha Obito is part 2 Main Villain.

Orochimaru is evil indeed, experiments on living humans, thousands of prisoners...

Obito is also evil, his goal is to end humanity, and he got no emotions for killing peoples...

I'd forgotten about Orochimaru's prisons, where he'd have them fight too the death.
What a bad-ass.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

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ro was made into the creature he was because of what happened to his parents. Itachi killed off his clan for the better good of the village. Pein became what he was due to losing the people and dog that he had held close to him. Obito lost Rin and blah blah. Just about everyone has their reasons. Even Kurama has a reason for how he treated humans. 10 Tails could but we just don't know everything yet. o3o

so if you have a sob story, that makes you a good guy?

 

[Mitarashi]

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so if you have a sob story, that makes you a good guy?

That's what people assume now, it doesn't make up for the things you've done..