Good or Evil? Who are the real villains of the Narutoverse?

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And that's what makes him evil.
The pure fact that he could take the life of something as innocent as a baby without a trace of hesitation is far worse than killing someone in a battle.

but i dont think this is the kind of "evil" that would make a character considered a true villain. Maybe someone like Deidara who just bombed random villages or Hidan who was a serial killer in a ninja's body

sure he was selfish about it, he only does this because he truly thinks he can revive everyone in Infinite Tsukyiomi.
 

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Meh a good shines manga or any story really should have antagonists that are ambiguous to good or evil but Madara is evil purely so but current Madara is just fapping to hashirama maybe in their rematch we'll see Madara boss like the villain he SHOULD be and not obsesses over his boyfriend
 

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There are very few pure evil characters in Naruto. Some are Orochimaru, Hidan, Madara and Obito.

Most of the others became "evil" because of their circumstances and must of those go back to being good in the end, like Zabuza, Pain, and Sasuke. It's only realistic in a world like Naruto for some characters to become evil. I've never understood why these characters, especially Sasuke are so hated. They are confused and live in a violent world. Of course, they will respond violently. They are only flawed humans. Not everybody is Naruto and stays good no matter what.

Many of the characters on the heroes' side aren't heroes, like Danzo and Itachi. Both had to do evil things like genocide but remained on the good side. these two characters could very easily be villains if the hero was on a different side.

Naruto however is, of course, the good guy. Despite having a darker backstory than most of the "villains," he has never been tempted by evil. I've always found this somewhat annoying. If you have a dark backstory, you will lapse into evil unless your name is Naruto or Kakashi.
 

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And that's what makes him evil.
The pure fact that he could take the life of something as innocent as a baby without a trace of hesitation is far worse than killing someone in a battle.



That laugh makes the girls drop their panties.

Considering what we've all just said/read is it safe too assume he's not 'Evil' more so just Insane and scared of death?

Criminally Insane maybe Lmao
 

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good guy. Kisame is neutral. I would say that Kabuto and Obito are evil.
Kabuto was not evil. He was just deeply, deeply hurt and confused. Same as Obito, only he was less hurt and reacted way worse than Kabuto.
ok NB has gone insane. this entire thread is nothing but "OHH HE WASNT EVIL, JUST LONELY AND BITTER". wrong.
genocide and murder? evil.
torturing little children? evil.
betraying and extorting your own people? evil.
so if itachi is evil, an unrepentent sociopath like kabuto definitely is

t. Many innocent lives were lost during the Kyuubi attack and even more innocent lives would have been lost if war broke out.
can you call an army of bloodthirsty mercenaries innocent?
 

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ok NB has gone insane. this entire thread is nothing but "OHH HE WASNT EVIL, JUST LONELY AND BITTER". wrong.
genocide and murder? evil.
torturing little children? evil.
betraying and extorting your own people? evil.
so if itachi is evil, an unrepentent sociopath like kabuto definitely is

can you call an army of bloodthirsty mercenaries innocent?

What are you talking about? i was referring to innocent people such as Iruka's parents

EDIT:eek:h i getchya. But as i said in my earlier post he thinks this is his justice. would you call Pain a bloodthirsty villian just cause he tried to achieve peace his way? Obito doesn't care who he kills because he thinks he can revive them in the infinite tsukyomi. People like Orochimaru who experiment and kill people for fun have no intention on bringing them back or achieving peace
 
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ok NB has gone insane. this entire thread is nothing but "OHH HE WASNT EVIL, JUST LONELY AND BITTER". wrong.
genocide and murder? evil.
torturing little children? evil.
betraying and extorting your own people? evil.
so if itachi is evil, an unrepentent sociopath like kabuto definitely is

can you call an army of bloodthirsty mercenaries innocent?
Well USSJ, a person can do evil deeds but that doesn't make them evil to us. Evil is in the eye of the beholder. I'd think you would know that seeing how you think Obito is a messiah. His actions are evil, but he himself is not.
 

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Well USSJ, a person can do evil deeds but that doesn't make them evil to us. Evil is in the eye of the beholder. I'd think you would know that seeing how you think Obito is a messiah. His actions are evil, but he himself is not.

Obito ain't no messiah.

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Obito ain't no messiah.

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in our present day people believe jesus is a messiah

yet back then he was crucified for being considered a heretic and conspiring against Israel with his teachings



just an example that the perspective of each person is different
 

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in our present day people believe jesus is a messiah

yet back then he was crucified for being considered a heretic and conspiring against Israel with his teachings

hence the perspective of each person is different


Yeah, but then again.
Those same people believe the world is 4,000 years old when there are living tree's older than that.

So yeah, they don't count.
Also, Madara is the closest thing to a real 'deity' in Naruto, Other than the SO6P, as his name inspired a war.
 

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Yeah, but then again.
Those same people believe the world is 4,000 years old when there are living tree's older than that.

So yeah, they don't count.
Also, Madara is the closest thing to a real 'deity' in Naruto, Other than the SO6P, as his name inspired a war.

not every christian believes that the world is 4000 years old....

the bible doesn't even say it was 4000 years old

people consider Lenin to be a messiah for the removal of the Russian Monarchy while others condemn him for establishing communism


Genghis Kahn was considered a messiah for Mongols for conquering half the world and creating the largest empire known to man, while everyone else believe him to be a tyrant



Julius Ceasar was considered to be messiah by many Romans but a usurper by the senate
 
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not every christian believes that the world is 4000 years old....

the bible doesn't even say it was 4000 years old

people consider Lenin to be a messiah for the removal of the Russian Monarchy while others condemn him for establishing communism


Genghis Kahn was considered a messiah for Mongols for conquering half the world and creating the largest empire known to man, while everyone else believe him to be a tyrant



Julius Ceasar was considered to be messiah by many Romans but a usurper by the senate

The 'Bible' states that it is, and if you don't believe in that you're no a Christian, so yea no.

My cats consider me a deity because I make food out of nothing.
does that make me a deity?
 

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The 'Bible' states that it is, and if you don't believe in that you're no a Christian, so yea no.

My cats consider me a deity because I make food out of nothing.
does that make me a deity?

the bible isn't meant to be taken literally

plus there are things that contradict

The bible says that people used to live for about 10 thousand years



then what makes a person a deity, please edify?
 

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the bible isn't meant to be taken literally

plus there are things that contradict

The bible says that people used to live for about 10 thousand years



then what makes a person a deity, please edify?

I'm not sure exactly, but my cat seems to think that the ability to make food will do it.
 

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I'm not sure exactly, but my cat seems to think that the ability to make food will do it.

i was hoping for a serious answer

besides cats don't see you as a messiah, they see themselves as the messiah.

cats are pets that own you not the other way around
 

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i was hoping for a serious answer

besides cats don't see you as a messiah, they see themselves as the messiah.

cats are pets that own you not the other way around

But do you have to be superior or the owner to be a messiah?

People choose to believe what they want, and in the end it's for 1 reason.

We're all like Orochimaru, we fear death, animals fear death, as a more intelligent race, we've come up with something that makes the prospect of dieing less scary, I don't blame people for that, I just don't share that folly.

I dunno how I got to religion though.
A messiah is whatever you want it to be.
 

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Pain [Not Nagato] and Tobi [Not Obito] were evil in their respective guises. Rikudō Pein purged any opposition and ruled over Satō no Amegakure with an Iron Fist. Tobi began a war and ruthlessly participated in or witnessed atrocious acts taken place. He also declared war on the Shinobi World leaving the world devastated and resulting in 50,000 Ninja dying.
 

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The 'Bible' states that it is, and if you don't believe in that you're no a Christian, so yea no.

My cats consider me a deity because I make food out of nothing.
does that make me a deity?

What gives you the right to say that if someone doesn't believe in the Bible 100%, they're not Christian? Who gave you that right? Or did you just think of that yourself because you're arrogant?

Hmm... That riled me up a bit... That usually doesn't happen lol. I don't mean to be hostile.
 

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But do you have to be superior or the owner to be a messiah?

People choose to believe what they want, and in the end it's for 1 reason.

We're all like Orochimaru, we fear death, animals fear death, as a more intelligent race, we've come up with something that makes the prospect of dieing less scary, I don't blame people for that, I just don't share that folly.

I dunno how I got to religion though.
A messiah is whatever you want it to be.

wow that is probably the most narcissistic thing I've ever heard; you don't share that folly?

not everyone fears death even without religion

religion isn't created solely for the purpose of having an afterlife; there are some religions that have a pretty unhappy afterlife like in Ancient Egyptian mythology.

religion(not just christianity) is meant for guiding, discipline, enlightenment, redemption, order

religion was many times created to give people an understanding of the world around them

and having faith can inspire




good and evil are subjective terms. To some good is evil and vice versa.

hence there can be a messiah to some and not to others.

The only thing that makes such things considered to be true and fact is if the majority believes it.





 
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The real villain in this series is tobirama. If he wouldn't have killed izuna and profiled uchiha and segregated them then none of this would've happened.
 
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