Good or Evil? Who are the real villains of the Narutoverse?

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Naruto, Itachi, Minato are all heroes, Madara, Obito, Orochimaru are all villains.

People try to justify Madara and Obito's actions, but at the end of the day they are sociopathic, every villain has a sorry sob back story, but that doesn't justify their actions.
 

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Hidan was definitely pure evil. He got such a high making people suffer to there last breath.

When you look up sadist in the encyclopedia, Hidan's picture pops up.

Deidara too. He even used to be a bomb terrorist before he joined the Akatsuki.
 

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I wouldn't call Madara evil, i think he's just a bitter old man. Oro just loves children too much. Nagato is a good guy. Kisame is neutral. Kimimaro is neutral. I would say that Kabuto, Obito and Hidan are evil.
 
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Lord Orochimaru, Tobi (not Obito), and Pain (not Nagato), were and always will be the greatest villains of NV. And Orochimaru is the most evil.
No one else has brutally experimented on and pretty much murdered 59 children like Orochimaru has.


I wouldn't call Madara evil, i think he's just a bitter old man. Oro just loves children too much. Nagato is a good guy. Kisame is neutral. I would say that Kabuto and Obito are evil.
Kabuto was not evil. He was just deeply, deeply hurt and confused. Same as Obito, only he was less hurt and reacted way worse than Kabuto.
 

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Oh Gato and Kisame are also pure evil.
 

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People who make the argument about Obito or others being turned into what they are because of tragedy or something like that, I want you to look up the story of Ivan the Terrible, he killed many of his own people because his wife died, does that justify his actions.
 

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Mizuki, Kakuzu, Hidan, Kabuto, and Deidara
 

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^ Mizuki! He's rotten to the core!

He got Naruto to steal the Scroll of Sealing!
 

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Oro and Madara. That's pretty much it.
 

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I'd say the only real main villain (through and through) is Orochimaru (with the exception of some of the former Akatsuki members who chose to walk the dark path out of their own free will).

Madara, Obito, Kabuto, Nagato (Pein), who although have all (and some currently still) walked the path as villain, were all backed into that corner and chose that path as a result of some trauma or pain. Drawing their own conclusions and validating their reasons for their actions.

Orochimaru on the other hand chose the path of being villain simply because of his own greed, lust, and jealousy. Greed: his hunger for power. Lust: his desire to acquire Sasukes body and the power of the Sharingan. Jealousy: His anger at Hiruzen Sarutobis decision not to make him Fourth Hokage, in which Minato was chosen instead of him. These feelings, as well as his complete disregard for human life (kidnapping, murdering, experimenting on his own people, etc) make him the most consistent and believable villain as their is no sad story behind it; only his selfish lust for power.

That and the fact that he was villain from the beginning and has made it this far, as well as the fact that his Snake like persona makes him even more untrustwothy. I have no doubt that even at this stage in the Manga, that It's possible he has a plan.

So my answer (obviously) is Orochimaru. Although, granted, there have been many and are many who have played the part of 'villain'.


Orochimaru isn't what I'd call evil, he's an odd case, granted he's done some evil things but here.
1) He's never stated he became evil because he wasn't elected Hokage, Hiruzen just assumed that. ( He said partly, but then again ANYONE would hold that against him in his position.
2) He fought for his village in the great shinobi war(s) ( he's doing it again now ).
3) His experiments are to gain 'Immortality'. If he'd become Hokage he'd no doubt be doing the same experiments, but maybe he'd share the knowledge with other people? He may have used it for good had he been given the chance.
4) He saved the Kages. NO-ONE else could've saved tsunade, this was either because he still feels something for her as a team mate and friend OR it could be part of a larger scale plan.
5) He was the prodigy of the village as a child, expected to do great things. This never happened and he was treated as an outcast, he may have thought he was abandoned by the village ( His parents were never introduced, it was never even suggested that he had any ) and he had to find another way to gain the attention he grew use to. ( Much like Naruto as a child, just on a larger scale ).

Still, he's done some terrible things.
 

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People who make the argument about Obito or others being turned into what they are because of tragedy or something like that, I want you to look up the story of Ivan the Terrible, he killed many of his own people because his wife died, does that justify his actions.

I dont believe Madaras or Obitos actions to be justified. However I dont believe them to be totally evil either, even tho they are indeed the current villains so to speak.

I just feel that Orochimaru is has been the truest villain as his intentions have always been based solely on his lust for power, and the ruthlessness and efficiency in his means to achieve his desired goal. I dont believe he is good in any way, so as far as villains go i believe he is the greater of three evils in that sense.
 

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I dont believe Madaras or Obitos actions to be justified. However I dont believe them to be totally evil either, even tho they are indeed the current villains so to speak.

I just feel that Orochimaru is has been the truest villain as his intentions have always been based solely on his lust for power, and the ruthlessness and efficiency in his means to achieve his desired goal. I dont believe he is good in any way, so as far as villains go i believe he is the greater of three evils in that sense.

Madara isn't evil, he's just bored.
Obito isn't evil at all, he just can't deal with his sorrow.

You don't think Kabuto was evil?, or Kakazu?

O.T
What do you guys think about Obito's attack on Konoha with the 9 tails? Why'd he do that?
 

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Madara isn't evil, he's just bored.
Obito isn't evil at all, he just can't deal with his sorrow.

You don't think Kabuto was evil?, or Kakazu?

O.T
What do you guys think about Obito's attack on Konoha with the 9 tails? Why'd he do that?

to rekindle the flames of war
 

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I dont believe Madaras or Obitos actions to be justified. However I dont believe them to be totally evil either, even tho they are indeed the current villains so to speak.

I just feel that Orochimaru is has been the truest villain as his intentions have always been based solely on his lust for power, and the ruthlessness and efficiency in his means to achieve his desired goal. I dont believe he is good in any way, so as far as villains go i believe he is the greater of three evils in that sense.

Well I can see your reasoning, and it does make sense to an extent.
 

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The main villain is the economy

Shinobi only exist to carry out missions for money so their village can thrive and survive
 

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Is that evil?
He was prepared to kill baby Naruto ( His sensai's newborn son..)

it's an evil act. Many innocent lives were lost during the Kyuubi attack and even more innocent lives would have been lost if war broke out. I honestly dont think he cared about killing Naruto/Kushina, he just wanted the Kyuubi. (Which is why he let Minato teleport them away back to their house)
 
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Orochimaru isn't what I'd call evil, he's an odd case, granted he's done some evil things but here.
1) He's never stated he became evil because he wasn't elected Hokage, Hiruzen just assumed that. ( He said partly, but then again ANYONE would hold that against him in his position.
2) He fought for his village in the great shinobi war(s) ( he's doing it again now ).
3) His experiments are to gain 'Immortality'. If he'd become Hokage he'd no doubt be doing the same experiments, but maybe he'd share the knowledge with other people? He may have used it for good had he been given the chance.
4) He saved the Kages. NO-ONE else could've saved tsunade, this was either because he still feels something for her as a team mate and friend OR it could be part of a larger scale plan.
5) He was the prodigy of the village as a child, expected to do great things. This never happened and he was treated as an outcast, he may have thought he was abandoned by the village ( His parents were never introduced, it was never even suggested that he had any ) and he had to find another way to gain the attention he grew use to. ( Much like Naruto as a child, just on a larger scale ).

Still, he's done some terrible things.

Are you forgetting this:

[video=youtube;DyLuQ0t-DXc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLuQ0t-DXc[/video]
I just don't trust him... and have a feeling that laugh could very well come back to haunt those who actually believed him... whom he had been fooling all along.

Yes, he saved the Kages and freed the Hokages from the Death Reaper Seal which subsequently changed the tide of battle in the war. However it would also be understandable that Orochimaru himself would have no intention of being drawn into the Infinite Tsukuyomi so he may be doing this in order to simply prevent Madaras/Obitos Jutsu from taking place.

That is, of course, just my opinion.
 
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it's an evil act. Many innocent lives were lost during the Kyuubi attack and even more innocent lives would have been lost if war broke out. I honestly dont think he cared about killing Naruto/Kushina, he just wanted the Kyuubi. (Which is why he let Minato teleport them away back to their house)

And that's what makes him evil.
The pure fact that he could take the life of something as innocent as a baby without a trace of hesitation is far worse than killing someone in a battle.

Are you forgetting this:

[video=youtube;DyLuQ0t-DXc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLuQ0t-DXc[/video]

I just don't trust him... and have a feeling that laugh could very well come back to haunt those who actually believed him... whom he had been fooling all along.

Yes, he saved the Kages and freed the Hokages from the Death Reaper Seal which subsequently changed the tide of battle in the war. However it would also be understandable that Orochimaru himself would have no intention of being drawn into the Infinite Tsukuyomi so he may be doing this in order to simply prevent Madaras/Obitos Jutsu from taking place.

That is, of course, just my opinion.

That laugh makes the girls drop their panties.

Considering what we've all just said/read is it safe too assume he's not 'Evil' more so just Insane and scared of death?
 
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