Going down the List: Secrets Revealed Repost

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Hey everyone! I made this thread a very long time ago but wanted to repost and update it before I lose permanent track of it.

Throughout the various stages of the war, Kishi has done a good job of solving old mysteries, creating new mysteries and even solving some of these new mysteries already. Therefore, I wanted to make a thread trying to organize the secrets we've been told about and the ones we still need to find out. So anyway, here it goes:

1. Itachi's gift- SOLVED

A: Itachi's gift was finally revealed as Shisui's left eye. It was entrusted to Naruto and was set to counter any eye technique cast using Itachi's MS. Itachi assumed Sasuke would transplant his eyes and if Sasuke were to attack the village, Itachi hoped Naruto could stop him with the help of this gift.

2. The missing members of the 7 swordsman- SOLVED

A: It was revealed that apart from Kisame, Choujuro and Zabuza, all the other most recent members of the 7SM had already died prior to part 1. Kishi revealed the identities of the missing 4 swordsman along with bringing back Kisame's master and Suigetsu's older brother (Mangetsu) to fill in the last 2 spots. The executioner's blade was even revealed to have a regenerative quality in addition to finding out the missing 4 swords along with their corresponding special abilities. Finally, we were even given a glimpse of some 7SM members predating the previous generation in Gai's flashbacks.

3. Is Tobi actually Madara Uchiha?- SOLVED

A: Kishi revealed that Tobi is not actually Madara Uchiha, rather he is Obito who pretended to Madara this whole time. Obito adopted Madara's voice in addition to carrying on his will in the form of his new personality. It was always Obito's plan to betray Madara's ultimate plan, but he went along with it to retain Zetsu's trust.

4. Kabuto's 'that jutsu'- SOLVED

A: After battling with Sasuke and Itachi, Kabuto's backup Jutsu that he mentioned following his convo with Tobi about Edo Tensei, was revealed to be a snake variation of Sage mode. The technique has been said to be based on Oro's experiments with harnessing the power of Juugo's unique clan. It was also implied that at least one other kind of sage mode exists beyond snake and frog mode, possibly more. However, it has not yet been confirmed if attaining Snake Sage Mode requires the calm gathering of Nature energy, similar to Frog Sage Mode.

5. Secrets of the Rinnegan- All but solved

A: We have been told that the Rinnegan, as it exists now, is actually an upgrade of the sharingan and is obtainable by all members of the Uchiha clan. It has been verified to require Senju DNA but it is still theoretically obtainable by any Uchiha. We still don't know the exact requirements beyond that, but such a detail is not really essential to the plot.

In addition to being told about its requirements, more abilities apart from the 6 paths have been revealed. Madara's limbo ability creates clones that exist in a different section of reality that can't be seen by normal eyes. A person with both Rinnegans can utilize at least 4 of these clones.

The gathering of all tailed beast chakra and the unlocking of both Rinnegan in one being unlocks the potential to awaken the final form of the Rinnegan. This Rinnegan has the capability to cast the Infinite Tsukyomi and, to a more experienced user, apparently have an inter-dimensional capability.

6. Naruto's previous 'that jutsu'- SOLVED

A: For a long time, there has been the lingering question about Naruto's 'that jutsu' that Jiraya mentioned as early as the start of Part 2. I've been involved in many discussions on the topic and I believe the accepted answer is that 'that justu' refers to Naruto's general use of Kyubi chakra. The toads talked about Naruto mastering the jutsu and Jiraiya talked about its general dangers. In addition, Naruto knew what Jiraiya was referring to as early as pre-Gaara rescue arc so it can't be anything like TBB that Naruto had no knowledge of at the time. Most translations actually refer to it as 'that power' providing more evidence to it being Naruto's general use of Kyuubi chakra.

7. Additional kekkei genkai combinations- Mostly solved

A: We have been given a great deal of detail into kekkei genkais during the course of this war. We have learned that Storm element combines water and lightning and have essentially been told the elements in regard to Scorch and Magnet release. Scorch obviously makes use of fire and was used by a sand shinobi. Since the Sand village is synonymous with wind, I think its safe to say Scortch = Fire + Wind. In addition, we have been told that shinobi from both the Sand and Cloud villages could use Magnet release. Since Sand = wind and Cloud = lightning, I also think its pretty safe to assume that Magnet = Wind + Lightning. Diedara's explosion tech clearly makes use of Earth and most believe its Earth + Lightning. Some also believe Blaze release is Fire + Lightning, but that one is very speculative now. The least theorized KG is Earth + wind. Some claim its simply sand release but there is not much to prove it.

Dust release is the only known KT at this point in time, combining Fire, Earth and Wind. Lastly, the ultimate KG combination was revealed to be the Onmyoton, a combination of all 5 elements. Its a technique that essentially dematerializes anything it makes contact with, an ultimate form of light and dark or yin and yang manipulation.

8. Is there an Izanami tech in the Naruto world?- SOLVED

A: Obviously ever since Izanagi was revealed, people had speculated Izanami was inevitably on the list. During the fight with Kabuto, it was confirmed that Izanami exists in the Naruto universe and its history is closely linked to that of the Uchiha's. It is said that while Izanagi changes destiny, Izanami decides it. In addition, it was said that Izanami is a pair with Izanagi and can hold a person's destiny. It was also implied that normal Uchihas could make use of both of the jutsus, strongly implying Kishi changed the fact that Izanagi requires Senju DNA. Not requiring it made it accessible to all Uchiha, which is implied when talking about the clans history of using it.

9. What's on Suigetsu/ Oro's scroll?- SOLVED

A: The scroll detailed the method of reversing the Dead Demon Seal. Suigetsu stated it could help win the war, and its contributed a lot. After reading the scroll, Sasuke stated he first needed to revive Orochimaru. Considering Oro was the only person Sasuke knew that could perform edo tensei, it makes sense that he needed Oro in order to release and revive the Kage's so he could talk to them.

10. Origins/ true purpose of the Gedo Mazo- SOLVED

A: The Gedo Mazo was simply the old shell of the Juubi devoid of chakra. Once at least a small portion of every beast's chakra was returned to it, it proceeded to transform into the Juubi. The juubi took on multiple forms as it progressed to its original state. The Juubi also shares its history with Kaguya.

11. What really happened between Madara and Hashirama at VOTE?- SOLVED

A: Madara was in-fact killed by Hashirama that day. Madara activated a time-delay form of Izanagi before he was killed. The jutsu activated a significant time later and Madara was revived while still retaining his wounds from the battle. Black Zetsu was watching the fight that day and was the one Hashirama noticed on the cliff after the battle had ended.

12. Rin's death- SOLVED

A: For a long time we didn't actually know how Rin died. It turns out she was taken captive by the Mist in an attempt to make here the Jinchurinki of the 3 tails and release it upon the leaf. She was implanted with a seal that prevented her from committing suicide. To bypass this limitation, Rin stepped in front of Kakashi's Raikiri in order to kill herself and thwart the Mist's (in actuality Madara's) plan.

13. The Uchiha Tablet- SOLVED

A: Originally the tablet was written by the sage as a guide for future generations to follow. Black Zetsu edited it contents to sway the Uchiha down an evil path including the casting of IT.

14. Oro's true intentions for attacking the leaf- TBA

A: Sasuke confirmed that Oro's true intensions for attacking the leaf was not simply revenge against the third for not picking him as Hokage. Its not true that he simply did it on a whim. What was oro's true purpose/goal/reason for attacking the leaf back then? Perhaps we will find out after Kaguya is defeated.

15. Identity and appearance of the SO6P - SOLVED

A: The SO6P was called Hagoromo Otsutsuki. He had a brother named Hamura and two sons, Ashura and Indra. His mother was Kaguya. Black Zetsu was revealed to be an actual byproduct of Kaguy's will (not Madara's) that lived solely to revive her. I don't feel I need to go into more detail considering this is the most recent discovery.

Feel free to discuss the discoveries Kishi has told us and possibly more that we need to know. If you think of any I should add to the list, please let me know and we will get this list more complete. As always, thanks for reading!
 
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Nice List :)

You could also add Orochimaru's true motives for attacking the Leaf which was interrupted by Tobirama:
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And also possibly the origins of Yata/Totsuka.
 

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#12 is still confusing to me. how did madara plan that? also giving nagato his eyes. could have been zetsu but maddy was an old man unable to move for both.
 
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Nice List :)

You could also add Orochimaru's true motives for attacking the Leaf which was interrupted by Tobirama:
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And also possibly the origins of Yata/Totsuka.
How could I forget Oro's true intentions! I'll add it to the list, thanks!
 

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Nice List :)

You could also add Orochimaru's true motives for attacking the Leaf which was interrupted by Tobirama:
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And also possibly the origins of Yata/Totsuka.
I've been wondering what Oro was going to say to Sasuke. I thought people forgot about that
 

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5. Secrets of the Rinnegan- All but solved

A: We have been told that the Rinnegan, as it exists now, is actually an upgrade of the sharingan and is obtainable by all members of the Uchiha clan. It has been verified to require Senju DNA but it is still theoretically obtainable by any Uchiha. We still don't know the exact requirements beyond that, but such a detail is not really essential to the plot.
Actually, Hagoromo said that the Rinnegan was the result of Madara specifically having Indra's + Ashura's chakra.

The gathering of all tailed beast chakra and the unlocking of both Rinnegan in one being unlocks the potential to awaken the final form of the Rinnegan. This Rinnegan has the capability to cast the Infinite Tsukyomi and, to a more experienced user, apparently have an inter-dimensional capability.
Kaguya never had the Rinnegan. Hagoromo described her 3rd eye as a Sharingan.

Furthermore, we have no way to know exactly what the requirements are other than being close to the moon - All Madara knows, comes from either the stone tablet or BZ who modified the stone table, and we now know that he proviced alot of false information.
 
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5. Secrets of the Rinnegan- All but solved



Actually, Hagoromo said that the Rinnegan was the result of Madara specifically having Indra's + Ashura's chakra.



Kaguya never had the Rinnegan. Hagoromo described her 3rd eye as a Sharingan.

Furthermore, we have no way to know exactly what the requirements are other than being close to the moon - All Madara knows, comes from either the stone tablet or BZ who modified the stone table, and we now know that he proviced alot of false information.
I keep hearing people claim that you must have Indra + Ashura chakra for Rinnegan but I don't believe it. If you ask me, Indra and Ashura chakra is equivalent to Uchiha + Senju. I think the sage said that because why would the sage use the terms Uchiha and Senju when they are descendants of his children? He would obviously use his sons names because that's who was close to him in the timeline. Perhaps direct reincarnations had better potential overall, but why would some descendants not have the same capability?

About IT, I'm not talking about Kaguya utilizing IT, I'm talking about a human attempting to bring it about. Clearly Obito did not have the eye and Madara needed both Rinnegan before it came to be. So for a normal human being to unlock the IT eye, they need both the power of the Juubi and bothe Rinnegan to obtain it.
 

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#12 is still confusing to me. how did madara plan that? also giving nagato his eyes. could have been zetsu but maddy was an old man unable to move for both.
The part about Nagato's eyes is a reasonable mystery in the Narutoverse. Don't forget that Madara did have the Rinnegan when he went to visit Nagato, meaning he could have flown to Nagato's village quite easily. Yet he would not have had a reliable mode of transportation on the way back. Not only was he able to make that journey, but he also obtained a single sharingan along the way. Why only one not 2? One possibility I suppose is that he used the Mazo to carry him there and back, but yet that seems unlikely.

As for the Mist, he certainly did manipulate Obito/ Rin when it came to the heart seals. He also manipulated a great number of Mist shinobi as well. This is far less explainable than his journey to the mist, but perhaps Zetsu was involved and Madara was capable of reasonably long range manipulation of a dozen or so Mist Shinobi.
 

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Kishi needs to explain Naruto's whiskers.
Haha, he pretty much did already. First of all they're not actual whiskers but face markings that look like whiskers. Like Chouji's cheek swirls or Kiba's fang tattoos. Next, anyone who fed off Kyuubi chakra has the whiskers. Naruto was birthed from a Kyuubi jin so the chakra was fed into his body. Kin and Gin had whiskers because they consumed the flesh of the Kyuubi's stomach. Even though Kushina was the Kyuubi Jin, she didn't have the whiskers because she never fed on the chakra.
 
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With the manga finished, I wanted to get people's ideas in regard to other secrets I might have missed on this list. One of the major draws of Naruto for me was all the mysteries that were involved, and having a compiled list of just that helps greatly.
 

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Orochimaru's true intentions are he was salty that he was banished, he wanted to destroy the paradise he could not have because he was jealous, his story is supposed to mirror Paradise Lost, the story of Satan
 

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Orochimaru's true intentions are he was salty that he was banished, he wanted to destroy the paradise he could not have because he was jealous, his story is supposed to mirror Paradise Lost, the story of Satan
But his abnormal actions directly caused him to loose everything related to the village. There was no one to blame but himself. The manga strongly implies its something deeper than that.
 
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