God (Just sharing ideas)

[Pumpkin Ninja]

The devil on my shoulder tells me he's proud of me
That it takes a real man to look out for himself and no one else

You must be registered for see images

Is that just a quote from a band or some form of entertainmet you like?

Looking out for only yourself is inhumane regardless of beliefs.

May I ask you a question. If you were a God or Goddess and you created life in your image would you not want to help guide your children? Would you not want them to know for a exact fact that you exist? I would, I would not want my children who i created in my image to wonder blindly with only faith to guide them, going to war for centuries and killing innocents in my name.

This is 100% what I'm talking about. What kind of just God would do this and punish us for not believing in him?

 

[-Punk-]

Is that just a quote from a band or some form of entertainmet you like?

Looking out for only yourself is inhumane regardless of beliefs.


This is 100% what I'm talking about. What kind of just God would do this and punish us for not believing in him?

A band mate.

 

[BLAZE]

I'm on the same boat as you, seems illogical though.

not really its all about faith

 

[sacmador]

These are what outcomes I think are possible.
So in my opinion he either doesn't exist or will not send us to hell (at least not forever and assuming he is just).

Now this doesn't dismiss the possibility of the three religions because it could mean God is just a sadist or he is not a God but still our creator, in other words, a liar.

This part is problematic. You try to make a logical assumption. Then you create some possibilities, and then make some of them impossible. Then one of the rest will be true. For this, you must define the whole set. A number is defined to be an even number or an odd number. So if you prove that you have a number and it is not even, then you can say with 100% certainty that the number is odd.
Now for your case, you cant just say that it is sadist or he wont put us into hell, or doesnt exist etc. because you did not put all the possibilites into your set. I can prove my statement, because you dont have any option for the God I believe as described in Quran.
You can just listen some parts of this video from Nouman Ali Khan about Quran's first surah, first complete surah:

You must be registered for see links

(it has also part 2 and 3 if you want)

Also you can look at Allah's other names or descriptions in summary from here:

You must be registered for see links

Also I think that guidance is better than trying to find all just on your own. If you just start to think about physics from the scratch, you cant understand anything probably(when you think gravity is found at Newton's era). So you go and look at what the others did since the beginning. Ancient civilizations, then Newton, then others, and Einstein, Plank, Tesla... They all found something look at them and gather all the info and then become knowledgable then criticize them, find what is wrong with Newton and Einstein. I make this part complex but in a few words; dont judge Newton before you know Newton and also Einstein and dont judge phyics from Newton or Einstein. Just gather all the info and then theorize and then rethink and build your mind.

Have good days

 

[BlazeRelease]

Who cares if there's a god? If he's seeking worship, then he's selfish and egotistical. If he's just watching people suffer, he's cruel.

And if he's just letting other sentient beings experience reality without interfering, he's just there.

But if there is a god, there's no logical reason to worship him other than fear, but I've got more dignity than to worship a tyrant who watches humanity suffer.

 

[Fountain]

Today is god day xp

 

[Hattake Ryuzaki]

so why are you creating them in the first place? what's the point of making everything completely perfect? why doesn't school let every student pass the exam, so that they can have a future? you're thinking pretty dumb here.

the reason why poor people exist is because the ones with money are supposed to donate charity to help them. also, wars are caused by humanity; not god.

You sir did not answer my question, nor was it directed at you. And people are not poor because people with money dont help them nor are they supposed to help them. People need to learn to help themselves and stop looking to others for support mainly God. Also good sir almost all war is based off religion because humanity fights over God.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

A band mate.

Lol, I knew it.

 

[Hattake Ryuzaki]

No i would not.



If they choose to believe me in me then why not.



We're humans and we make mistakes but we choose not to learn from it, how many wars have happened through the years? MANY. We keep making the same mistakes all over again.

The news is filled with rape, murdering and many other bad things that God doesn't like but even i were god, It would become a tiresome thing to do all over again.

why not? thats very selfish and vain of you. more so of a deity.

Exactly we choose not to learn from it and continue to go to war over our Gods, instead of coming together and trying to find a way off this rock we call home.

 

[iNotorious]

why not? thats very selfish and vain of you. more so of a deity.

Selfish? How so?

You're responsible of your own choice, god left us decide the fate of the earth, which it pretty much sucks.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

This part is problematic. You try to make a logical assumption. Then you create some possibilities, and then make some of them impossible. Then one of the rest will be true. For this, you must define the whole set. A number is defined to be an even number or an odd number. So if you prove that you have a number and it is not even, then you can say with 100% certainty that the number is odd.
Now for your case, you cant just say that it is sadist or he wont put us into hell, or doesnt exist etc. because you did not put all the possibilites into your set. I can prove my statement, because you dont have any option for the God I believe as described in Quran.
You can just listen some parts of this video from Nouman Ali Khan about Quran's first surah, first complete surah:

You must be registered for see links

(it has also part 2 and 3 if you want)

Also you can look at Allah's other names or descriptions in summary from here:

You must be registered for see links

Have good days

I'm a Muslim too but I saw a video of his that said in the Qur'an (I'm gonna paraphrase him) "God introduces himself as the greatest, and then says all worship goes to him. This is different to slave masters because he introduced himself as the greatest". That makes no sense to me. So if a slave master says I am the greatest and then tells you to worship it is logical?

I believe the greatest will not punish you for all eternity for being misguided.

[video=youtube;N1MTLgvfFGs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1MTLgvfFGs[/video]
This video right here gave me so much doubts on Islam.

 

[ministerC4]

Today is god day xp

Don't you mean is a god day? xp

 

[Hattake Ryuzaki]

Selfish? How so?

You're responsible of your own choice, god left us decide the fate of the earth, which it pretty much sucks.

how is it not selfish???? A God who creates life and then abandons it is no better than a mother who gives birth then abandons her newborn.

 

[Conspirator.]

This isn't directly related to the thread.... but I'll say it anyway because I can. "God" is a concept that varies from religion to religion, so much so that given the contradictions, it's physically not possible for all religions to be right simultaneously. It's not just about whether god exists or not: Is everything God, or everything God's ? The contradictions are even bigger when comparing the Abrahamic religions to the Dharmic religions like Buddhism, Sikhism, Hinduism etc.

 

[iNotorious]

how is it not selfish???? A God who creates life and then abandons it is no better than a mother who gives birth then abandons her newborn.

God abandoned us for our selfish desires.

 

[Benjamin King]

You sir did not answer my question, nor was it directed at you. And people are not poor because people with money dont help them nor are they supposed to help them. People need to learn to help themselves and stop looking to others for support mainly God. Also good sir almost all war is based off religion because humanity fights over God.

So why are some people poor then? Lol, because of the lack of economy. So what do people with money do then? Donate it. Lol. But I saw that you were confused and I want it to help, so here are answers for your question:

Q1). The correct term when relating humans or creatures, is creation of God, and not ''children''. And you are wrong on that matter. God guided humans with knowledge, hence why he sent messengers with all carrying the same message: God exists, and humans must worship him.

Q2.) Not all wars are basing on religion. Some are politics breaking out, some are freedom etc. However, if there is a war basing on religion, the people are misguided - Islamic State is an example of that.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

God abandoned us for our selfish desires.

He gave us selfish desires knowing the results.

 

[iNotorious]

He gave us selfish desires knowing the results.

That eva knew it.

 

[ministerC4]

He gave us selfish desires knowing the results.

Bible god gave Adam and Eve a choice...
Or test, that he should have known the outcome for... and cursed them for their choice, and all their children, and their children's children... and so forth..

But idk.. maybe it's a proof of freewill?

 

[Hattake Ryuzaki]

God abandoned us for our selfish desires.

well thats a pretty shittty god if you ask me.

Also "God" gave us free will, he is supposed to be all forgiving? Why would he abandon us for being selfish ourselves. your remark just goes to show u have a low opinion of humanity, and a high opinion of the "almighty" even though your almighty abandon us.