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I can literally feel my IQ dropping from reading so much BS on here. Im out have fun discussing about how a concept invented by people who still tought the earth is flat is "science"
 
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There was one person who had lived his life to the fullest and he was living in world where humans have mastered everything in their life, accomplished each an everything and that person was the oldest person alive so humans had made some kind of supernatural thing at that time which can grant wish of the last person who will be alive , so that person wish this universe and this very earth where we are living to get it start form the very first time.This is how this universe has been created because his wish caused a big bang explosion. And now we refer that person as "GOD".
 

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omnipotence paradox
Can [an omnipotent being] create a stone so heavy that it cannot lift it?
God is a logical being doing so would go against his logic get this straight there is nothing that god cannot do god cannot be god if he creates something greater than him that would be illogical that wouldn't make any sense god nature is
being perfect and to do something that's not perfect would mean he's not god
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This question is frequently asked by skeptics of God, the Bible, Christianity, etc. If God can create a rock that He cannot lift, then God is not omnipotent. If God cannot create a rock so heavy that He cannot lift it, then God is not omnipotent. According to this argument, omnipotence is self-contradictory. Therefore, God cannot be omnipotent. So, the question, could God create a rock so heavy He could not lift it? The quick answer is "No." But the explanation is far more important to understand than the answer...

This question is based on a popular misunderstanding about the definitions of words like "almighty" or "omnipotent." These terms do not mean that God can do anything. Rather, they describe the amount of God's power. Power is the ability to effect change - to make something happen. God (being unlimited) has unlimited power, and the Bible affirms this (Job 11:7-11, 37:23; 2 Corinthians 6:18; Revelation 4:8; etc.). Therefore, God can do whatever is possible to be done. God cannot, however, do that which is actually impossible. This is because true impossibility is not based on the amount of power one has, it is based on what is really possible. The truly impossible is not made possible by adding more power. Therefore, unless context indicates otherwise (e.g. Matthew 19:26 where man's ability is being shown in contrast to God's), impossibility means the same thing whether or not God is involved.

So, the first part of the question is based on a false idea - that God being almighty means that He can do anything. In fact, the Bible itself lists things God cannot do - like lie or deny Himself (Hebrews 6:18; 2 Timothy 2:13; Titus 1:2). The reason He cannot do these things is because of His nature and the nature of reality itself. God cannot do what is not actually possible to be done, like creating a two-sided triangle, or a married bachelor. Just because words can be strung together this way does not make the impossible possible - these things are contradictions, they are truly impossible in reality. Now, what about this rock? A rock would have to be infinitely large to defeat an infinite amount of lifting power. But an infinite rock is a contradiction since material objects cannot be infinite. Only God is infinite. There cannot be two infinites. So the question is actually asking if God can make a contradiction - which He cannot.
 
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god doesn't exist, that people still believe in god sigh :what::mad:_@:

but if they want to..k
you are right, he dont exist cause he is outside time itself. without time we are nothing.

but the thing that surpasses time itself , is the bond beyond time,( the father, son and the holy spirit)

you can put it this way, you belive in nothing but still belive in god. since god was created from nothingness


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I can literally feel my IQ dropping from reading so much BS on here. Im out have fun discussing about how a concept invented by people who still tought the earth is flat is "science"
you're just hurt that's all thinking i may be right no need to attack just say you don't agree if someone was secure about their beliefs he wouldn't come across like you.Thx for leaving this means my thread won't be deleted :)
 

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people with strong religious will believe in God no matter what you tell them...and there is nothing wrong with that this is what I would call the definition of blind faith... I would remind that there have been many gods. And god in the past... even some efyptians gods that are quite similar to jesus... look it up. Jesus similarity to egyptian god. Do asimple google search... people use god for comfort when they are afraid or dont undetstand something (zeus thunderbolt).... it is not logical to belive.....science continues to solve mysteries and as long as I can turn on any television and see innocent kids and people just hurt or killed... I cant believe in a merciful all powerful benevolent being... not logical at all..
 

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God is a logical being doing so would go against his logic get this straight there is nothing that god cannot do god cannot be god if he creates something greater than him that would be illogical that wouldn't make any sense god nature is
being perfect and to do something that's not perfect would mean he's not god
other answer:
This question is frequently asked by skeptics of God, the Bible, Christianity, etc. If God can create a rock that He cannot lift, then God is not omnipotent. If God cannot create a rock so heavy that He cannot lift it, then God is not omnipotent. According to this argument, omnipotence is self-contradictory. Therefore, God cannot be omnipotent. So, the question, could God create a rock so heavy He could not lift it? The quick answer is "No." But the explanation is far more important to understand than the answer...

This question is based on a popular misunderstanding about the definitions of words like "almighty" or "omnipotent." These terms do not mean that God can do anything. Rather, they describe the amount of God's power. Power is the ability to effect change - to make something happen. God (being unlimited) has unlimited power, and the Bible affirms this (Job 11:7-11, 37:23; 2 Corinthians 6:18; Revelation 4:8; etc.). Therefore, God can do whatever is possible to be done. God cannot, however, do that which is actually impossible. This is because true impossibility is not based on the amount of power one has, it is based on what is really possible. The truly impossible is not made possible by adding more power. Therefore, unless context indicates otherwise (e.g. Matthew 19:26 where man's ability is being shown in contrast to God's), impossibility means the same thing whether or not God is involved.

So, the first part of the question is based on a false idea - that God being almighty means that He can do anything. In fact, the Bible itself lists things God cannot do - like lie or deny Himself (Hebrews 6:18; 2 Timothy 2:13; Titus 1:2). The reason He cannot do these things is because of His nature and the nature of reality itself. God cannot do what is not actually possible to be done, like creating a two-sided triangle, or a married bachelor. Just because words can be strung together this way does not make the impossible possible - these things are contradictions, they are truly impossible in reality. Now, what about this rock? A rock would have to be infinitely large to defeat an infinite amount of lifting power. But an infinite rock is a contradiction since material objects cannot be infinite. Only God is infinite. There cannot be two infinites. So the question is actually asking if God can make a contradiction - which He cannot.
This does not disprove the paradox,So under the standard definition of omnipotence, he is not omnipotent. Unless you can tell me the definition you are using.
 
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