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kinda thinking lately about the arguments for and against God, and seems there is no cutthroat evidence that God exist but this doesn't change my belief in a supreme being called God. for me it seems the reason why most people and atheist argue against the existence of God is because the thought of someone having to control their every action is repulsive but then why not. it could be said that man has a dependent nature and cannot stand on his own and thereby needs someone who is independent to guide his every action.*dont wana start heated argument, I'm just expressing my mind*
 

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then again everybody is entitled to their opinion
 

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No, the reason why most scientists and atheist don't believe in such a thing is because there's zero evidence for it.
 

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No, the reason why most scientists and atheist don't believe in such a thing is because there's zero evidence for it.
the sciencist haven't totally proven the big bang and still believed it actually happened
 

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No, the reason why most scientists and atheist don't believe in such a thing is because there's zero evidence for it.

Precisely

OT: The reason why some people are atheist, is because they don't want to keep giving the same answer "there's god" to explain away the creation of the universe, and other similar matters. Rather, a lot of scientists keep seeking the answers for themselves.
 

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kinda thinking lately about the arguments for and against God, and seems there is no cutthroat evidence that God exist but this doesn't change my belief in a supreme being called God. for me it seems the reason why most people and atheist argue against the existence of God is because the thought of someone having to control their every action is repulsive but then why not. it could be said that man has a dependent nature and cannot stand on his own and thereby needs someone who is independent to guide his every action.*dont wana start heated argument, I'm just expressing my mind*

No true human wants to feel controlled and contained, you could argue that there's no evidence against a God either. Science is only as expansive as to what is actually observed. If one can believe that the universe started from a "big bang" than the core foundations from a big bang would contradict scientific law, I for one believe in it, people only subjugate God based on certain principles, but is it so? Intelligence is as subject as a human being, some believe that God merely exists to explain what cannot be explained by human methods, or that he was merely a tool used to keep people in check. Whatever the case may be, humans merely interpret the way they see fit, some are to stubborn to accept and some are too stubborn to refute. In the end people will be people, the notion that humanity is God isn't too far fetched. Usually if you've noticed the creation typically desires three things. To reject, to usurp, or to obey their creator. Think about it, think about anything and everything that has been created they will usually casually fall into those categories, but in the end all three have one thing in common, to become like their creator or to surpass their creator.

Humans typically wish to be God themselves as if you noticed our achievements and our desire, you'll take note that it is both a conscience and a subconscious effort. Power beyond grasp, to continue to evolve and survive,to live on infinitesimal, supreme intellect, etc. It's almost as if it's wired in us to want to achieve this but that's just my take I would go more in depth but that's be a freaking research paper :leaf:
 

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Well, I don't need the evidence that God exists. I just believe it.
 

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Just have faith. Its the Ultimate for "beileving in "x" despite lack of evidence.

Me? I severely lack it in terms of a heavenly sugar daddy.
 

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kinda thinking lately about the arguments for and against God, and seems there is no cutthroat evidence that God exist but this doesn't change my belief in a supreme being called God. for me it seems the reason why most people and atheist argue against the existence of God is because the thought of someone having to control their every action is repulsive but then why not. it could be said that man has a dependent nature and cannot stand on his own and thereby needs someone who is independent to guide his every action.*dont wana start heated argument, I'm just expressing my mind*

It is really quite simple. Whether a god exists or not, is literally IMPOSSIBLE to prove or disprove. There is not a single scientific experiment in which we are capable of to test for a gods existance. That is because a god by definition is SUPERNATURAL. Which means it interacts and exists outside the realms of our reality. Atheists no matter how much they may want or say otherwise cannot scientifically disprove the existance of god. And religious people cannot scientifically prove the existance of god.

So in the end, it really boils down to 3 options.

1. There is a god who created the universe. This god just created the universe and just let it sit. This god does not interact with the creation, or if he does, then it is on a very small limited impersonal level.

2. There is no god who created the universe.

3. There is a god who created the universe, actively interacts and is involved in what goes on in the universe, and does at least in a limited manner, or unlimited manner interacts on a personal level.



Out of those 3, there is only one answer that can be true. There is technically a fourth option, and that is there is a god that sometimes interacts, and sometimes doesnt. This god would have a changeing nature. However this is not a belief of many people at all.

Pretty much all theology regarding does god exist or not falls into those 3 categories.


The first 2 really only debate the existance of god based on actual scientific evidence yay or nay.

The third option however opens up a whole new realm of ability to rationally, yet nonscientifically prove Gods existance.

Science can come to both right and wrong conclusions. However when you are on trial, and there is not enough scientific evidence to prove a case, or evidence is impossible to obtain, then you must rely on the testomonies of the eyewitnesses.


So with the 3rd option, there being a God that actively interacts with his creation, leaves open the door for a rational way to prove Gods existance. That is eyewitness testimony. The eyewitness's can either be actual people, or it can be the universe itself.

For example, the THEORY of evolution, that all life essentially originated from a single organism, and that animals such as dinosaurs mutated over time to become entirely new species such as birds, could very easily and rationally be explained by a god who chooses to shape the animals over time, by introducing gradual rare benefical mutations.

The fact that the earth just so happens to be in a perfect place around the sun, and that the sun happens to be a perfect age, and perfect size to make conditions extraordinarily well suited for life, and that the earth just so happened to have the right chemical and elemental make up(essentially vast series of coincidences.)

So one could look at just how all the universe functions, and see a evidence for a god.


Then you have the personal interaction with God. You have people who had literal conversations with God. You have God acting in supernatural ways, both big and small, with his creation. You have people who experience miracles and the such.



I am going to stop here for most readers. If you actually read what I am saying, then thank you for your time.


....(eyewitnesses being both people and the universe, and how it works, looking for a signature(similar to how many programmers have unique things deeply embedded in code as their signature to identify they made the code))






Simply though, I believe there is a God. I have witnessed things that should not have happened. I have seen way to many personal coincidences in my life. I have seen how he works in the lives of others. See I believe in the God of the Bible. But to talk about those things, is for a different discussion. I have my opinion and you have yours.
 
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either way we will find out when we die but some will find it the hard way:scorps:
 

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my opinion i believe God sees me even when i do really really bad
 

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If you claim an extreme on either end of the Religious or Atheist spectrum, then you're wrong. There is simply not enough evidence to support either. If you want to believe it then that is fine but don't make a claim that is incorrect.
 

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i guess the big bang came out of nowhere then:gn:

I don't recall even writing anything on my post. If you want to start delusional arguements you can go ahead. But not with me. I am not even taking part in this arguement. And I'm certainly not taking sides. But when I see ridiculous sht like this, I have to post. v_v
 

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You're right, there is little evidence for a god, but then again there is no substantial proof he doesn't exist. Only the dead know. In this moment we can only focus on change from within. Everyone has the potential for enlightenment. If a god or afterlife exists, then leading a self-sacrificing, altruistic life will be rewarding for you. If no god or afterlife exists then leading a self-sacrificing, altruistic life will be rewarding for your world.
 

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Everyone has the right for their own opinions. But that doesn't mean people should bother each other with it.
 
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