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Anyone else agree that Naruto seemed a little better with Sage mode? I mean with Sage mode, he could take damage a lot easier like when he fell off that giant spike while training and fell like 100 feet into more spikes but wasn't even hurt. Yet he said one punch from Raikage and he would've been out in Kyuubi mode.

Naruto is indeed faster in Kyuubi mode, but it seems like that speed didn't help him at all during the fight against Nagato in the recent chapters. Epic speed or Sage speed, it didn't seem to really matter against Nagato.

Also, WHILE Naruto was in Sage mode during the fight against the 6 paths, he was totally pwning them. He was taking out Nagato's bodies one after another. If he had unlimited Sage mode like Jiraiya, he would've crushed the 6 paths back then. Naruto only got captured and lost because his Sage mode kept running out in the middle of fighting.

We can also look at his fight against the Kyuubi. With a TINY bit of help from Kushina, he was able to completely rape the Kyuubi with Sage mode. He just pummled the Kyuubi with non-stop Giant Rasengans and Rasenshurikens. The Kyuubi was all like "holy shit, how is he this powerful???"

Plus his Frog Katas taijutsu, with this ability, all he has to do is get remotely close to his enemy and the natural energy around him will make contact with his enemy. That seems to be better taijutsu than the Kyuubi mode offers at the moment.

Naruto might be physically faster in his new form, but it seems he is overall weaker in terms of one on one combat. Why train in Sage mode so hard to obtain a mode that's weaker than Sage mode? What do you guys think?
 

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I can actually see a jinchuriki saying, "I just defeated my tailed beast in battle. Now I have full control over him. Except, I just defeated him. Sooo... Aren't I stronger than my bijuu? Sorry, man. Don't need you anymore; I'm awesome on my own."
 

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Ughhhhhh its just one chapter calm down u still didnt see the full extent of his new form its the nine tails chakra guyz its not weaker than SM so just keep reading the manga and wait til the war is over to make conclusions like this
 

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I can actually see a jinchuriki saying, "I just defeated my tailed beast in battle. Now I have full control over him. Except, I just defeated him. Sooo... Aren't I stronger than my bijuu? Sorry, man. Don't need you anymore; I'm awesome on my own."
^ Exactly. This is exactly what it seems like at the moment.
 

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Anyone else agree that Naruto seemed a little better with Sage mode? I mean with Sage mode, he could take damage a lot easier like when he fell off that giant spike while training and fell like 100 feet into more spikes but wasn't even hurt. Yet he said one punch from Raikage and he would've been out in Kyuubi mode.

Naruto is indeed faster in Kyuubi mode, but it seems like that speed didn't help him at all during the fight against Nagato in the recent chapters. Epic speed or Sage speed, it didn't seem to really matter against Nagato.

Also, WHILE Naruto was in Sage mode during the fight against the 6 paths, he was totally pwning them. He was taking out Nagato's bodies one after another. If he had unlimited Sage mode like Jiraiya, he would've crushed the 6 paths back then. Naruto only got captured and lost because his Sage mode kept running out in the middle of fighting.

We can also look at his fight against the Kyuubi. With a TINY bit of help from Kushina, he was able to completely rape the Kyuubi with Sage mode. He just pummled the Kyuubi with non-stop Giant Rasengans and Rasenshurikens. The Kyuubi was all like "holy shit, how is he this powerful???"

Plus his Frog Katas taijutsu, with this ability, all he has to do is get remotely close to his enemy and the natural energy around him will make contact with his enemy. That seems to be better taijutsu than the Kyuubi mode offers at the moment.

Naruto might be physically faster in his new form, but it seems he is overall weaker in terms of one on one combat. Why train in Sage mode so hard to obtain a mode that's weaker than Sage mode? What do you guys think?
Well we also have to take into account that he wasn't trying to kill Nagato in Kyuubi mode. I disagree with things I bolded.

1) Raikage has to be one of the strongest shinobi in existance. Especially when in lightning armor. He broke through Sasuke's sussano with that same force so he is very strong. Thats why Naruto was hit back like that.

2) Kyuubi Naruto has the ability to make chakra arms. Those chakra arms where capable of crushing rocks just by accident. He can fight with multiple arms that can spew anywhere on his body. He can also make rasengans into everyone of those hands and pwn as seen when he fought the Zetsu's.

3) He hasn't necessarily foughten in Kyuubi mode so we still don't know how powerful he is until an epic episode comes that showcase his new mode.
 

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Anyone else agree that Naruto seemed a little better with Sage mode? I mean with Sage mode, he could take damage a lot easier like when he fell off that giant spike while training and fell like 100 feet into more spikes but wasn't even hurt. Yet he said one punch from Raikage and he would've been out in Kyuubi mode.

Naruto is indeed faster in Kyuubi mode, but it seems like that speed didn't help him at all during the fight against Nagato in the recent chapters. Epic speed or Sage speed, it didn't seem to really matter against Nagato.

Also, WHILE Naruto was in Sage mode during the fight against the 6 paths, he was totally pwning them. He was taking out Nagato's bodies one after another. If he had unlimited Sage mode like Jiraiya, he would've crushed the 6 paths back then. Naruto only got captured and lost because his Sage mode kept running out in the middle of fighting.

We can also look at his fight against the Kyuubi. With a TINY bit of help from Kushina, he was able to completely rape the Kyuubi with Sage mode. He just pummled the Kyuubi with non-stop Giant Rasengans and Rasenshurikens. The Kyuubi was all like "holy shit, how is he this powerful???"

Plus his Frog Katas taijutsu, with this ability, all he has to do is get remotely close to his enemy and the natural energy around him will make contact with his enemy. That seems to be better taijutsu than the Kyuubi mode offers at the moment.

Naruto might be physically faster in his new form, but it seems he is overall weaker in terms of one on one combat. Why train in Sage mode so hard to obtain a mode that's weaker than Sage mode? What do you guys think?
"Yet he said one punch from Raikage and he would've been out in Kyuubi mode."

... WHAT? ... He took more than 10 punches from Raikage with no visible damage, the punches were so powerful that it made a hole in juugo's arm and managed to break through susanoo and almost took sasuke's head off...

""Naruto is indeed faster in Kyuubi mode, but it seems like that speed didn't help him at all during the fight against Nagato in the recent chapters. Epic speed or Sage speed, it didn't seem to really matter against Nagato.Also, WHILE Naruto was in Sage mode during the fight against the 6 paths, he was totally pwning them. He was taking out Nagato's bodies one after another. If he had unlimited Sage mode like Jiraiya, he would've crushed the 6 paths back then. Naruto only got captured and lost because his Sage mode kept running out in the middle of fighting.""

In some circumstances ... Pain > Nagato ...

in other ... Nagato > Pain ...

I'll explain the first one ...

Pain > Nagato = because there are 6 bodies, if Itachi went up against them, he could only seal one of the 5 body at one moment meaning that Nagato or the remaining 5 bodies wouldn't be harmed, only one pain be sealed BUT this has a weakness is well as we saw against Pain vs Naruto.

Second Circumstance =

Nagato > Pain ... = Because Nagato could use all their abilites in one and kill any ninja that uses ninjutsu, genjutsu doesn't affect him, only sealing will work on him ... But again that has a weakness is well, if itachi used that sealing sword on him, he only has 1 body so he would be screwed ...

"We can also look at his fight against the Kyuubi. With a TINY bit of help from Kushina," ...

You MUST be out of ur mind ... Tiny bit of Help? ...
You must be kidding ... Kushina was holding the kyuubi down and not only that Kushina got all the hatred away from him otherwise he would be kyuubi itself and the show would've ended ...

"Plus his Frog Katas taijutsu, with this ability, all he has to do is get remotely close to his enemy and the natural energy around him will make contact with his enemy. That seems to be better taijutsu than the Kyuubi mode offers at the moment." ...

You can't say that cuz we havn't seen naruto in taijutsu except in Itachi's case when he was HOLDING BACK to learn the truth about Uchiha massacre ...:flaw:

Overall ... Rikudou mode is better :flaw:
 

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Well we also have to take into account that he wasn't trying to kill Nagato in Kyuubi mode. I disagree with things I bolded.

1) Raikage has to be one of the strongest shinobi in existance. Especially when in lightning armor. He broke through Sasuke's sussano with that same force so he is very strong. Thats why Naruto was hit back like that.

2) Kyuubi Naruto has the ability to make chakra arms. Those chakra arms where capable of crushing rocks just by accident. He can fight with multiple arms that can spew anywhere on his body. He can also make rasengans into everyone of those hands and pwn as seen when he fought the Zetsu's.

3) He hasn't necessarily foughten in Kyuubi mode so we still don't know how powerful he is until an epic episode comes that showcase his new mode.
Agreed with everything you said. Well said
 

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Well we also have to take into account that he wasn't trying to kill Nagato in Kyuubi mode. I disagree with things I bolded.

1) Raikage has to be one of the strongest shinobi in existance. Especially when in lightning armor. He broke through Sasuke's sussano with that same force so he is very strong. Thats why Naruto was hit back like that.

2) Kyuubi Naruto has the ability to make chakra arms. Those chakra arms where capable of crushing rocks just by accident. He can fight with multiple arms that can spew anywhere on his body. He can also make rasengans into everyone of those hands and pwn as seen when he fought the Zetsu's.

3) He hasn't necessarily foughten in Kyuubi mode so we still don't know how powerful he is until an epic episode comes that showcase his new mode.
Yeah, I guess that's right. Idk, I'm just disappointed by his new form SO FAR. That might just be me. He just seemed more able in combat with Sage mode, that's all. Hopefully Kishimoto redeems himself and shows the full extent of this new form within the next 20 chapters.
 
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