[Discussion] Global Waming

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Well, just as it says. Thoughts on global warming? How much of a threat is it? Can it be stopped? Are we really causing it for sure? Is it real? etc.
 
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global warning is real it is much of a threat because many animals can die because of it
the sun continues to get hotter each year and as it gets hotter many plant life dies ice and glaciers melt causing the water to rise
 

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Global Warming is a serious threat and I'm not entirely sure if it can be stopped. I think that we have a hand in it but I also feel like the shifting of the polar ice caps is also contributing to it and that's out of our hands. I think we're just speeding up the inevitable in all honesty with all of the greenhouse gases that we're creating.
 

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It is a serious threat, but I don't think it can be changed the way things are now. It gets worse because of things we're used to. Electricity, cars, etc.

I found it a big problem when I barely got any snow this year. Only got 1 delay, no closings. :( I may be in High School but I enjoy closings! That's why I love winter! Not to mention the cold, because during the summer it's just too hot.
 

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Actually, global warming is such a general term and what people think it is, is often different than the next person. Global Climate Change however, is just a natural process. Our earth cycles through various glacial and inter-glacial periods. Ozone depletion which many people believe to be Global Warming is not as big a deal as low atmospheric ozone formation, because O3 or Ozone is very harmful to the respiratory membranes in your body. In the end, there isn't much people can truly do that fits in the constraints of modern society and daily processes to change things. Greenhouse gases also aren't a big a cause of Ozone depletion, but the real global warming they do is based on the greenhouse effect, where trapped infrared photons being to heat the greenhouse, or in this case, the planet. If you'd like to know more, you can find some great books at your local library.
 

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i know i am gonna get flamed ............ i belive that it is a natural earth cycle that man has made it happen faster
 

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the earth goes through warming and cooling periods all the time, that said the human presence is definitely attributing to a steeper incline in average global temperature
 

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i know i am gonna get flamed ............ i belive that it is a natural earth cycle that man has made it happen faster

This is an interesting interpretation ._. I never thought of it that way.

I personally believe that it's natural for the earth to go through heating and cooling stages, although humans are making the heating & cooling stages more critical than the last. Meaning it's going to be hotter than it's supposed to be and colder than it's supposed to be when the time comes.
 

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global warning is another term for end of the world, can never stop get over it
 

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This is an interesting interpretation ._. I never thought of it that way.

I personally believe that it's natural for the earth to go through heating and cooling stages, although humans are making the heating & cooling stages more critical than the last. Meaning it's going to be hotter than it's supposed to be and colder than it's supposed to be when the time comes.

thanks for not flaming

hate to sound a little redneck hear lol

but my family was in the usa sense Jamestown and he where farmers and there are family books wrote about the weather and i can tell you for a fact about every 75-100 years you see thing wrote about grater heat then you see the temps go back to "normal" after about 15 years
 

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Global warming & cooling has been happening for many years, my teacher who was like 70 back when I was in middle school..like 5 years ago once told me that it's was nothing but lies that global warming was happening, it's an issue that even when she was younger people always had to make a big deal out of it. I can understand her point of views though and I did read an article that said that the world was going to a global coolig not warming.
Read here:


The scientist go back and forth with this issue, global warming or cooling? which one? who knows.

"Meanwhile, since the end of last year, world temperatures have fallen by more than half a degree, as the cold ‘La Nina’ effect has re-emerged in the South Pacific.
‘We’re now well into the second decade of the pause,’ said Benny Peiser, director of the Global Warming Policy Foundation. ‘If we don’t see convincing evidence of global warming by 2015, it will start to become clear whether the models are bunk. And, if they are, the implications for some scientists could be very serious.
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yes its a threat and we should all do what we can to keep it from progressing.
 

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Dude, you're gonna die in 80 years or so, why do you care? The full effects will probably not be experienced during your lifetime.
 

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Climate change = normal functioning of the earths ecosystem and the effect of our orbit around the planet. It has happened before many times and will happen again.

Modern perception of Global Warming = sensationalist journalism that has taken a natural phenomena and turned it into the new "sin" of mankind. We used to fear damnation under God, for not following our superiors orders, now we fear the wrath of the "environment" for the sins of not buying into "green industries" and environmentally friendly products.

Unfortunately the situation we have today is that global warming is being fed down people's throats not because of the impact that it should have on how we run society, but because of the business that it encourages, and the fear that can be used by governments against the common masses, who dont question what they are told.

Just my 5cents
 

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well its gotta be true ive seen studying it all my life...>.<...
plus yes we are causing it because of our shitty out of control air pollution...U_U
 

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Yeah we may be influencing the rate of change, but the media has a strong history of suggesting causation where we can only prove causation. Its not so much whether its true or not. Its about how it is being used as yet another tool to keep us all in line.

To make it clear i also believe climate change to be legitimate, by Uncle spent 40 years as a Ecologist at CSIRO (Australia's scientific organization)
 

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Dude, you're gonna die in 80 years or so, why do you care? The full effects will probably not be experienced during your lifetime.

Exactly, that's why we're dealing with it today at all is because of selfishness and short-sightedness. ;)
 
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Let us start our examination of Global warming with a study of its causes. Global warming is an overall state of existence that is the cumulative effect of hundreds of environmental factors. All of these join together in both a linear and random model to show global warming as a chain of events.

Most modern attention to the problem of global warming began with discussion of depletion of the Earth’s Ozone layer. Ozone (O3) is a molecular form of Oxygen. The Ozone layer is a relatively thin strata of these molecules set in the lower portion of the Earth’s stratosphere.
Depletion of the Earth’s Ozone layer has resulted in a large increase in Ultra Violet Radiation reaching the surface of the earth. Does this increase in UV rays equate to global warming? Not really. In fact most scientific opinion is that depletion of the Ozone layer results in cooling of both the stratosphere and troposphere. So why mention depletion of the Ozone layer as regards to global warming? Because it represents a needed balance between harmful radiation being allowed to reach the earth’s surface and our desire to stem the rapid increase in our air and water temperature. Remember, we are viewing global warming as a chain of events.

global-warming-3What is the most significant cause of global warming?

The primary cause of global warming is Carbon Dioxide emissions. CO2 is being pumped into our atmosphere at an insane pace; 8 billion tons of CO2 entered the air last year. Of course some of this is due to natural activity such as volcanic eruptions and people breathing. But the Earth is equipped to easily absorb those into the normal regenerative process. No, the beginning of global warming was caused by fossil fuels being burned and emitting plenty of CO2.

Currently in the world 40% of all CO2 emissions are caused by power plants. These are burning coal, natural gas and diesel fuel. Some power plants burn garbage. Some burn methane made from garbage. And discounting those super green electrical generating plants designed to issue negligible pollutants, all of our power plants let loose into the atmosphere CO2.

33% of all the CO2 sent forth is the product of cars and trucks. Internal combustion engines burning fossil fuels…gasoline and diesel spew forth a retching amount of CO2.

3.5% of all CO2 emissions are released from aircraft traveling our friendly skies. Unfortunately, jets and other aircraft deliver their payload of pollutants directly into the troposphere.

The numbers can be confusing

12% of all CO2 released into the atmosphere is related to buildings. This figure varies from one source to the next. Some place the percentage of emissions from buildings as high as 33%. What most of these figures do not address is the actual cause of the CO2 emissions. In newly constructed buildings, production of materials used in building and energy used during construction are sited as the cause of carbon dioxide emissions. In existing buildings the CO2 created by the energy upkeep of the building is the root of the emissions quotient. The general comparison is that buildings consume energy in the way that cars burn fuel. But the pollutants created in providing power for heating, air-conditioning, lights and other usage in buildings has already been factored. Honestly this double billing accounting is more the product of auto manufacturers looking to point the blame for global warming away from gas guzzling cars.

The point to remember is that 98% of all CO2 emissions are related to energy production and 80% of these emissions become greenhouse gases.

Continuing the chain…global-warming-5

Which now mentioned allows us to follow our chain of event’s leading to global warming into the next most defined cause… Methane gas. Methane is released into the atmosphere from a dozen major sources. These include natural and man made emissions. Natural release of Methane is primarily from wetlands, (including agriculture) termites, the ocean, and hydrates. Non-organic releases are based from, landfills, livestock, waste treatment, and biomass burning. (More energy production). Almost all of this is offset by the Earth’s ability to absorb around 97% of the methane released into the air. But that remaining 3% is a serious problem. The molecular structure of Methane makes it 20 times as powerful a Greenhouse gas than CO2. So while there is a great deal less Methane to contend with than CO2, it is still the second largest link in the global warming events chain.
Not every Greenhouse gas is as obvious a villain as Methane. The next most potent problem is simple H2O water. How can water be a cause of global warming? Our atmosphere contains a set parameter of water as vapor. This vapor absorbs and radiates heat as does every molecule in the air. But when the lower atmosphere (troposphere) has excess water vapor that gaseous H2O is a potent greenhouse gas.
Another of the more commonplace greenhouse gases is Nitrous Oxide. NO2 can make your car go faster, or make you relax at the dentist. It has quite few beneficial uses. But as a greenhouse gas all it manages to accomplish is to be one more ingredient in out atmospheric soup. Cars using catalytic converters, fertilizer plants, manufacture of nylon, and nitric acid as well as being produced naturally in our oceans and rain forests, produce Nitrous Oxide.
All of the above plus quite a few other greenhouse gases comprise the foundation of global warming. As above and in all discussion of global warming they are cumulatively referred to as greenhouse gases. To understand the importance of these as the start and endpoint of global warming we must digress into a brief explanation of the greenhouse effect.
 

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Well, just as it says. Thoughts on global warming? How much of a threat is it? Can it be stopped? Are we really causing it for sure? Is it real? etc.

It might not affect you much, but your son will suffer, his son will suffer and etc... untill earth is no place of living <_<, and i believe it cant be stopped, look at industry, they wont give a shit about it, they just wanna earn more and more money, nothing is gonna be stopped unless scientists come up with somethings
 
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