[Discussion] Ging's team vs Chrollo's team

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Ging wins anyday.
There is a theory i came up with Ging faught or saw Chrollo in his past and copied or made his own version of chrollo's book technique and incorporated it into Greed Island.
 
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Ging wins anyday.
There is a theory i came up with Ging faught or saw Chrollo in his past and copied or made his own version of chrollo's book technique and incorporated it into Greed Island.
I dont think he needs a book, the guy has talent he can moves after seeing them once. He copied Learo's tranporting punch move.
 

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Even though they're outnumbered Ging's team wins pretty comfortably. Especially after seeing what Hisoka did to two members, it would be an easy win. Ging is already one of the top 5 nen users and to make matters worse for Chrollo's team, Ging is easily one of the smartest characters we've seen. We don't know much about Pariston, other than the fact that he's smart too.
 
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If the spiders have the new improved Hisoka on the team, they definitely win. They'd get massively outnumbered. Hisoka alone could take Kite before his power up imo, not to mention now. Ging is not on a different tier from Chrollo if we use Logic, while Pariston's abilities are unknown. But this is still 12 vs 5, and it's not like those 5 are too much stronger than the spiders.

The spiders would win med diff.

If we anallyze the matchup closely:

Kurtopi as many clones of the spiders as he can, and Chrollo uses order stamp on them + sun and moon seal, to keep all of them bussy. The chances of Kite getting his huge sword to eliminate all the puppets is really low, and not to mention that he couldn't do it anyways if he has to deffend against Hisoka.

Ging can probably deal with the puppets + a couple of ryodan members, but he'd get more and more swarmed as his teammates get killed, since Razor would be taken down + Uvo+Phinks (he can't overpower that duo) and the rest of the ryodan would deliver attacks to everyone.

Damn, this is a low diff for the ryodan really.
 
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If the spiders have the new improved Hisoka on the team, they definitely win. They'd get massively outnumbered. Hisoka alone could take Kite before his power up imo, not to mention now. Ging is not on a different tier from Chrollo if we use Logic, while Pariston's abilities are unknown. But this is still 12 vs 5, and it's not like those 5 are too much stronger than the spiders.

The spiders would win med diff.

If we anallyze the matchup closely:

Kurtopi as many clones of the spiders as he can, and Chrollo uses order stamp on them + sun and moon seal, to keep all of them bussy. The chances of Kite getting his huge sword to eliminate all the puppets is really low, and not to mention that he couldn't do it anyways if he has to deffend against Hisoka.

Ging can probably deal with the puppets + a couple of ryodan members, but he'd get more and more swarmed as his teammates get killed, since Razor would be taken down + Uvo+Phinks (he can't overpower that duo) and the rest of the ryodan would deliver attacks to everyone.

Damn, this is a low diff for the ryodan really.
You are underestimating razor, Kite and Pariston.
Pariston would see through any plans that chrolo might be able to make. The other 3 would most likely be the brawn of the team. Simply seeing razor on greed island almost 5 members of the ryodan were stopped in their tracks.
Kite maintained an EN of 45 meters for almost an entire night, when we know even Zeno complained about the technique being too tiresome.

Ging would probably defeat all the clones with just Leorio's technique and his quick punches, without even needing to get close.
 

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You are underestimating razor, Kite and Pariston.
Pariston would see through any plans that chrolo might be able to make. The other 3 would most likely be the brawn of the team. Simply seeing razor on greed island almost 5 members of the ryodan were stopped in their tracks.
Kite maintained an EN of 45 meters for almost an entire night, when we know even Zeno complained about the technique being too tiresome.

Ging would probably defeat all the clones with just Leorio's technique and his quick punches, without even needing to get close.
No i'm not. You're overrating them sir, and Ging overall. Did you not just see the fight Hisoka vs Chrollo where Hisoka was literally making a hammer out of them and smashing all of them around, but they wouldn't stop unless decapitated? The sole idea of Ging soloing them all with one attack is hilarious when at the same time he has to watch the sun and moon seals + being swarmed by A rank criminals who are all on Hisoka's level.

And Pariston knowing about the plan is ridicculous too, since Hisoka only had a slight idea because Chrollo explained his abilities to him to make it more fun. No need to do that here, so no, they will have no idea about sun and moon or the puppets until they have anallyzed a lot of explosions earlier (which would end on them knowing how it works, but lacking their extremities).

And yes, Kite is a great emisor. How does that fact correlate on his fight with Hisoka? This is a diagram of the fight:

Chrollo himself using sun and moon which won't dissapear on kurtopi's puppets, + order stamp + other ability he can use since he doesn't need to keep sun and moon activated, with another 2 spiders (machi and franlkin are the most adequate, since Machi would combine her strings to pull togheter the puppets to explode when she wants, plus franklin would swarm Ging with nen bullets) vs Ging = Ging has no fraking way of surviving, lmao. And if it's not enough, i'll just throw it here, we have super saiyan shalnark and feitan...

Hisoka and Bonolenov vs Kite = just threw bonolenov here because he'd support Hisoka, in the case kite gets his huge almighty Katana, Bonolenov counters with his planet throwing, using the rock as a shield. Hisoka solos this anyways. But with support there's no point in debating it.

Razor's emision attacks were reacted to by Gon and Killua, so Uvo and Phinks can avoid them. And if we talk about reinforcement, uvo alone has better feats on that category, with the support of phinks they get overpowered. Razor's 14 monkeys would get obvliverated by bing bang impact and 15+ rotation punches from phinks

Pariston's intellect wouldn't make it on time and i already explained why. His speed is on par with Ging's at the moment i'll give you that, but i still have Feitan (who's a boss) with the support of all the other spider's i havent named + the support of the spiders that have already killed their enemy.

To say more, none of the spiders would die on this event, maybe except for Kurtopi.
 

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No i'm not. You're overrating them sir, and Ging overall. Did you not just see the fight Hisoka vs Chrollo where Hisoka was literally making a hammer out of them and smashing all of them around, but they wouldn't stop unless decapitated? The sole idea of Ging soloing them all with one attack is hilarious when at the same time he has to watch the sun and moon seals + being swarmed by A rank criminals who are all on Hisoka's level.

And Pariston knowing about the plan is ridicculous too, since Hisoka only had a slight idea because Chrollo explained his abilities to him to make it more fun. No need to do that here, so no, they will have no idea about sun and moon or the puppets until they have anallyzed a lot of explosions earlier (which would end on them knowing how it works, but lacking their extremities).

And yes, Kite is a great emisor. How does that fact correlate on his fight with Hisoka? This is a diagram of the fight:

Chrollo himself using sun and moon which won't dissapear on kurtopi's puppets, + order stamp + other ability he can use since he doesn't need to keep sun and moon activated, with another 2 spiders (machi and franlkin are the most adequate, since Machi would combine her strings to pull togheter the puppets to explode when she wants, plus franklin would swarm Ging with nen bullets) vs Ging = Ging has no fraking way of surviving, lmao. And if it's not enough, i'll just throw it here, we have super saiyan shalnark and feitan...

Hisoka and Bonolenov vs Kite = just threw bonolenov here because he'd support Hisoka, in the case kite gets his huge almighty Katana, Bonolenov counters with his planet throwing, using the rock as a shield. Hisoka solos this anyways. But with support there's no point in debating it.

Razor's emision attacks were reacted to by Gon and Killua, so Uvo and Phinks can avoid them. And if we talk about reinforcement, uvo alone has better feats on that category, with the support of phinks they get overpowered. Razor's 14 monkeys would get obvliverated by bing bang impact and 15+ rotation punches from phinks

Pariston's intellect wouldn't make it on time and i already explained why. His speed is on par with Ging's at the moment i'll give you that, but i still have Feitan (who's a boss) with the support of all the other spider's i havent named + the support of the spiders that have already killed their enemy.

To say more, none of the spiders would die on this event, maybe except for Kurtopi.
You are just powerscaling. Ging and Paristan think on an entirely different level, which even chrollo won't be able to handle (He could not handle Kurapika).
 

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You are just powerscaling. Ging and Paristan think on an entirely different level, which even chrollo won't be able to handle (He could not handle Kurapika).
Lol what is thi? You can't just make a matchup and then say that "they think on a different level so they win the fight". They'd get babyshaked.
 

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Even though they're outnumbered Ging's team wins pretty comfortably. Especially after seeing what Hisoka did to two members, it would be an easy win. Ging is already one of the top 5 nen users and to make matters worse for Chrollo's team, Ging is easily one of the smartest characters we've seen. We don't know much about Pariston, other than the fact that he's smart too.
So you jus gon conveniently forget to mention that said two spiders didn't have their powers at the time since Chrollo borrowed their abilities?
 
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