Gimped Rinnegan Sasuke vs Hokage Naruto

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This is the Rinnegan Sasuke that fought Shin, so his Rinnegan doesn't have any tomoe.

Naruto is restricted to the feats he showed in Gaiden and the moves he could use in that form. So he can only form Kurama's head and no large scale attacks
 

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So Naruto has partial transformation and his RSM mode but without any jutsu bar chakra arms vs. Sasuke w/ no Mangekyo techs?

-Shin could dodge Naruto's chakra arm attack so Sasuke does the same, with ease.
-He still has Ameno, so that + Chidori should be able to pierce and damage or kill Naruto if it hits.

However Naruto has the partial transformation here so he'd just block all of Sasuke's attacks with Kurama's head and then demolish him with chakra claws. So Naruto obviously wins.
 

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So Naruto has partial transformation and his RSM mode but without any jutsu bar chakra arms vs. Sasuke w/ no Mangekyo techs?

-Shin could dodge Naruto's chakra arm attack so Sasuke does the same, with ease.
-He still has Ameno, so that + Chidori should be able to pierce and damage or kill Naruto if it hits.

However Naruto has the partial transformation here so he'd just block all of Sasuke's attacks with Kurama's head and then demolish him with chakra claws. So Naruto obviously wins.

What does Ameno stand for?
Also what effect does tomoe have on sasukes rinnegan?
 

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What does Ameno stand for?
Also what effect does tomoe have on sasukes rinnegan?

It simply means he can use his Rinnegan along with his Sharingan simultaneously, so he receives benefits such as extra Precognition and Mangekyo abilities.
 

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What does Ameno stand for?
Also what effect does tomoe have on sasukes rinnegan?

Ameno is for his teleportation (amenotejikara), and NarutoX28 explained the rest.
 

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It simply means he can use his Rinnegan along with his Sharingan simultaneously, so he receives benefits such as extra Precognition and Mangekyo abilities.

Kind of weird that its just 9 tomoe on a rinnegan instead of three or EMS pupils combined with rinnegan
 

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i think sasuke wins, i personally think they both have gotten weaker but naruto more so
 

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Kind of weird that its just 9 tomoe on a rinnegan instead of three or EMS pupils combined with rinnegan

The original Rinnegan design had 3 tomoe on it. The first few times pain showe'd up as that silhouette I think he had them
 

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It simply means he can use his Rinnegan along with his Sharingan simultaneously, so he receives benefits such as extra Precognition and Mangekyo abilities.

I doubt that's it when Madara used Sharingan abilities with his Rinnegan active.

It was never stated or implied that MS and Sharingan abilities wern't possibile with the Rinnegan active either. Makes no sense considering the Rinnegan is an evolution of the Sharingan. That would be like saying the Sharingan loses the ability to copy Jutsu after 3T
 

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I doubt that's it when Madara used Sharingan abilities with his Rinnegan active.

No it wasn't. He only manifested Susano'o, but that technique doesn't use his eyes as a medium in order to use it. It's even shown that the Rinnegan is incapable of using of using the Sharingan's technique as Madara needed the Sharingan in order to cast his Genjutsu:



It certainly does make sense why the Sharingan contains different abilities compared to the Rinnegan. The Rinnegan was considered a Six Paths Power. If the Sharingan's abilities were derived from the Sharingan, then the Sharingan would be considered a Six Paths Power, but it's not, it's considered a Power of the Uchihas and that makes sense considering both requires different types of Chakra in order to awaken it and it also explains why Nagato can't use the Sharingan's abilities through the Rinnegan.

Even the Hachibi separates the Rinnegan and the Sharingan's abilities as shown here:



He explains that the Sharingan was the reason why they were moving so well while their Shared Vision was of course linked to them having their Rinnegan. If the Rinnegan did contain the Sharingan's abilities, then clearly it would've gave the Jin Precognition, but Hachibi thinks otherwise.
 

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No it wasn't. He only manifested Susano'o, but that technique doesn't use his eyes as a medium in order to use it. It's even shown that the Rinnegan is incapable of using of using the Sharingan's technique as Madara needed the Sharingan in order to cast his Genjutsu:


This proves mothing. That scan doesn't imply or state that he couldn't use with a Rinnegan. Your logic could literally be applied to any instance in the manga where a lower level of Doujutsu was used to use something

Madara was also able to see through Naruto's Kage Bunshin, which would only be an ability of the Sharingan (though he's the only one shown capable of doing so)

It certainly does make sense why the Sharingan contains different abilities compared to the Rinnegan. The Rinnegan was considered a Six Paths Power. If the Sharingan's abilities were derived from the Sharingan, then the Sharingan would be considered a Six Paths Power, but it's not, it's considered a Power of the Uchihas and that makes sense considering both requires different types of Chakra in order to awaken it and it also explains why Nagato can't use the Sharingan's abilities through the Rinnegan.

The Rinnegan is a further evolution of the Sharingan. The diffrences your drawing in your post are simply what's diffrent between them, not proof that the Sharingan's abilities cant be used in conjunction with the Rinnegan.

Nagato can't use Sharingan abilities because he didn't know them. He's not an Uchiha either, so he wouldn't have any natural affinity for Uchiha abilities.


Even the Hachibi separates the Rinnegan and the Sharingan's abilities as shown here:



He explains that the Sharingan was the reason why they were moving so well while their Shared Vision was of course linked to them having their Rinnegan. If the Rinnegan did contain the Sharingan's abilities, then clearly it would've gave the Jin Precognition, but Hachibi thinks otherwise.

Gyuuki doesn't know that the Rinnegan is a further evolution of the Rinnegan.

Their Rinnegan is a product of the Six Paths Jutsu, all the alot is Shared Vision and whatever jutsu the user gives the puppet.

They're not real Rinnegan. So once again, moot point.




Nb4 you reply. Theres is Zero concrete proof or even the slightest implication of what your trying to assert. Not a single instance in the manga implies the a Sharingan that's evolved into a Rinnegan is incapable of using the Sharingan's abilities, and the only subject you have to try and proof your point is a character that's only shown MS abilities are Susano'O & Izanagi
 
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naruto would probably win since sasuke doesnt possess the power needed to get through even a partial manifestation of kurama without his full eye powers intact.
 

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So Naruto has partial transformation and his RSM mode but without any jutsu bar chakra arms vs. Sasuke w/ no Mangekyo techs?

-Shin could dodge Naruto's chakra arm attack so Sasuke does the same, with ease.
-He still has Ameno, so that + Chidori should be able to pierce and damage or kill Naruto if it hits.

However Naruto has the partial transformation here so he'd just block all of Sasuke's attacks with Kurama's head and then demolish him with chakra claws. So Naruto obviously wins.

Sasuke could technically ameno inside the cloak
 

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Sasuke could technically ameno inside the cloak

I'm iffy about that.

-It's solid unless the user makes room I believe.
-It's a tactic Sasuke or any teleporter not once tried.
 
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