Gentle Fist

[Reviewing Logic]

anyway this thread only concluded that Himawari is a SOLO BEASTING PRODIGY ELITE

 

[Holy God]

name someone sealing a chakra point beside some Kaguya based individual?

I can't since only the Hyuuga use Gentle Fist. How does this prove it's a bloodline limit?

again Hima having the ability to expel chakra like a Hyuga before she awakened her eye wasn't presented in any form via manga or anime

Hinata was surprised that it happened and never knew who did it

That's not proof that it awakened alongside with the Byakugan though. There's not a single statement throughout the series' works that connects the Byakugan and the ability to release chakra from any pressure point.

plus just hitting a chakra point with the byakugan active isn't even the problem here, she sealed it completely with one strike

the GF taijutsu style can be learnt by anyone though but using it would just be you poking people and palming them like a fool

Obviously. There's no argument here.

also some gene related moves

Uzumaki Chains, Susanoo to name some

Susano'o is listed a bloodline limit and the Uzumaki ability is genetic, but that doesn't make it a bloodline limit, thus it is rightfully labeled in the Databook.

Himawari not having the byakugan would mean that she wouldn't be able to see the chakra points meaning that if you want to go by the conjecture that she had the other ability without her eyes awakening first then once she did awaken it how would she know what specific part to poke by instinct if she never saw it before

how much to expel and how to seal the whole system without doing 64 or more hits

it would be quite a flimsy miracle, and even now Boruto can't do it

You're asking how she would know which part to attack if she had awakened her pressure point ability before the Byakugan? Why does this question even matter? Even if she awakened it after/with the Byakugan, she still wouldn't know why she'd attack them unless you're saying this pressure point ability grants you innate knowledge of how the chakra system works.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

because we never seen anyone other then a natural byakugan user (so not AO) use a form of GF or chakra point sealing or releasing

then as far it is concerned the move is genetic until proven otherwise

and then the question if you need to unlock the byakugan first to even get that ability, let alone add that to the GF taijutsu style is also the case until proven otherwise like a hyuga that hasn't awakned the byakugan yet uses it (not the taijutsu) or it is mentioned that Hima could do it before she awakened the byakugan, or Boruto did it before his Jougan got full on byakugan feats or he himself awakened the byakugan.

 

[SenseiSama]

Whiteboy is the biggest Hinata hater in NB, no one else has been this dedicated to talking shit about Hyuga :lol

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

I pray no one actually believes the Byakugan grants its host an automatic fighting style. That's asinine. The Byakugan is the seed — training is the labor — Gentle Fist is the fruit.

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Well said.

 

[Holy God]

because we never seen anyone other then a natural byakugan user (so not AO) use a form of GF or chakra point sealing or releasing

then as far it is concerned the move is genetic until proven otherwise

I think you misunderstood the point of the conversation. I never said it wasn't genetic. I said it wasn't a bloodline limit, which you cannot prove, so using your logic, until it is proved otherwise you are wrong.

and then the question if you need to unlock the byakugan first to even get that ability, let alone add that to the GF taijutsu style is also the case until proven otherwise like a hyuga that hasn't awakned the byakugan yet uses it (not the taijutsu) or it is mentioned that Hima could do it before she awakened the byakugan, or Boruto did it before his Jougan got full on byakugan feats or he himself awakened the byakugan.

You can use the default option like that, since I can't disprove it, however, even if they did awaken at the same time, it doesn't help you prove any of your actual main points, like it granting some innate knowledge on the chakra system or it being a bloodline limit.

 

[Made in Heaven]

I never said it wasn't genetic. I said it wasn't a bloodline limit

Isn't that the same? Bloodline limits are genetic abilities.

 

[SenseiSama]

because we never seen anyone other then a natural byakugan user (so not AO) use a form of GF or chakra point sealing or releasing

then as far it is concerned the move is genetic until proven otherwise

and then the question if you need to unlock the byakugan first to even get that ability, let alone add that to the GF taijutsu style is also the case until proven otherwise like a hyuga that hasn't awakned the byakugan yet uses it (not the taijutsu) or it is mentioned that Hima could do it before she awakened the byakugan, or Boruto did it before his Jougan got full on byakugan feats or he himself awakened the byakugan.

They don't need Byakugan to use GF as proven by Boruto

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But Byakugan enhances their Juken because it can see chakra points

 

[Holy God]

Isn't that the same? Bloodline limits are genetic abilities.

Essentially, but there are still criteria to define what abilities are allowed to enter this category. For example, the Senju and Uzumaki have strong life force and bodies but this does not count as a bloodline limit, as well as the latter's chains. Controlling chakra from the pressure points is something all ninja can do; the Hyuuga just have a genetic predisposition to easily doing it from all pressure points, which is why it isn't really a bloodline limit.