Gentle fist easily counters susanoo?

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People seem to be under the impression that Hyuga's chakra is weak. I mean lol.

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It would damage susanoo. Let's not overrate Uchihas shall we? It's just that Hyugas don't have a way to touch the susanoo without being killed and don't have enough charka for the bigger susanoos.
Well they can because don't forget they Have range attack such as Airpalm in the smaller scale or Vacuum Air Palm in a larger scale that was able to have Big impact on the Juubi Arm which is 10X bigger than the regular Susanoo which should penetrate if not it can sweep the Susanno at bay.
 

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Gentle fist is effective when it touches person's body to disrupt the chakra flow or damage any chakra/pressure points.
Susano'o is an armor for the user. Gentle fist won't be able to touch the user, that means no harm to the user and hence no harm to the susano'o. Though Gentle Fist isn't as focused as that of Tsunade's punch to break the suasno'o.

Any person with comin sense know it would be harder to target chakra to finger tips as opposed to fist. It's even stated in the manga that joining struggle to do what the Hyuuga do. Gentle is way for focused then tsunades punches
 

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This post is miserably wrong because the Gentel Fist does not need to target chakra points to work. Kidomarus web does not have chakra points, nor do Kisames Water Prison. Try again.
Read what Crystal Chakra originally posted. She said that chakra was INSERTED into the OPPONENT to DESTROY chakra. I said that juken is INSERTED into the OPPONENT to BLOCK chakra points (like Naruto vs Neji). My point is since a juken user must first hit susano they can't insert chakra into the oponent to BLOCK chakra points. This is an example of an INTERNAL attack.

The example you made with Kudomaru was when Neji cut chakra strings inside the web which I already countered in my initial post; Susano can block external chakra attacks. Susano blocked odama rasengan which was EXTERNAL.

To summarize:

Gentle fist can't block a susano user's chakra points because they must first get through susano. A susano has no chakra points so juken can't block any chakra points.

Gentle fist can't penetrate susano because Susano blocks external attacks like Odama rasengen. Also Odama rasengan>juken.

Therefore whether the attack is external or internal it won't get through because it must first get through susano.
 
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Gentle fist is effective when it touches person's body to disrupt the chakra flow or damage any chakra/pressure points.
Susano'o is an armor for the user. Gentle fist won't be able to touch the user, that means no harm to the user and hence no harm to the susano'o. Though Gentle Fist isn't as focused as that of Tsunade's punch to break the suasno'o.
You're missing the point... Neji stated any thing that was made of chakra substance, Gentle fist can deliberately disrupt it like Susannoo is made of Chakra.

Neji was able to disrupt water prison or spider web because it was made of chakras.
 

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Read what Crystal Chakra originally posted. She said that chakra was INSERTED into the OPPONENT to DESTROY chakra. I said that juken is INSERTED into the OPPONENT to BLOCK chakra points (like Naruto vs Neji). My point is since a juken user must first hit susano they can't insert chakra into the oponent to BLOCK chakra points. This is an example of an INTERNAL attack.

The example you made with Kudomaru was when Neji cut chakra strings inside the web which I already countered in my initial post; Susano can block external chakra attacks. Susano blocked odama rasengan which was EXTERNAL.

To summarize:

Gentle fist can't block a susano user's chakra points because they must first get through susano. A susano has no chakra points so juken can't block any chakra points.

Gentle fist can't penetrate susano because Susano blocks external attacks like Odama rasengen. Also Odama rasengan>juken.

Therefore whether the attack is external or internal it won't get though because it must first get through susano.
You sir need to read the posts before. Susanoo is made of chakra therefore gentle fist should theoretically be able to destroy it.
 

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You sir need to read the posts before. Susanoo is made of chakra therefore gentle fist should theoretically be able to destroy it.
By your logic then since Odama rasengan is made of chakra then juken destroys it.

By your logic then since Hell stab is made of chakra then juken destroys it.

By your logic then since Chidori is made of chakra then juken destroys it.

By your logic then since bijuu dama is made of chakra then juken destroys it.

By your logic then since Godoudama is made of chakra then juken destroys it.

See how stupid this sounds. Please adhere to logic and stop posting nonsense. I am done with this thread. Have a nice day.
 
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You sir need to read the posts before. Susanoo is made of chakra therefore gentle fist should theoretically be able to destroy it.
A Bijuudama is also made out of chakra, so theoretically Gental Fist should be able to destroy, correct?

A Rasen-Shuriken is also made out of chakra, so theoretically Gentle Fist should be able to destroy it, correct?
 

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Bijuu dramas aren't fully made up out of chakra, they have positive and negative energy. My point is if the byakugan user can touch it without being harmed then theoretically he should be able to disrupt it. Look you want someone to argue with argue with crystal cause she already provided logical explanations of everything a Hyuuga should theoretically be able to do. This thread has already been solo'd
 

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By your logic then since Odama rasengan is made of chakra then juken destroys it.

By your logic then since Hell stab is made of chakra then juken destroys it.

By your logic then since Chidori is made of chakra then juken destroys it.

By your logic then since bijuu dama is made of chakra then juken destroys it.

By your logic then since Godoudama is made of chakra then juken destroys it.

See how stupid this sounds. Please adhere to logic and stop posting nonsense. I am done with this thread. Have a nice day.
A Bijuudama is also made out of chakra, so theoretically Gental Fist should be able to destroy, correct?

A Rasen-Shuriken is also made out of chakra, so theoretically Gentle Fist should be able to destroy it, correct?

Umm you can't....

Gentle fist can destroy anything made of chakra as long as the user can physically touch it or grab ahold of it

CC stated before some certain ability Meaning anythings like fire, wind, or lightning jutus, can't be destroyed by jyuuken, as, despite the fact that they're made of chakra, they can't really be physically touched.

Things like susano'O, earth or water style, or rasengan can be touched and held onto, so they can be destroyed.
 
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Umm you can't....

Gentle fist can destroy anything made of chakra as long as the user can physically touch it or grab ahold of it

CC stated before some certain ability Meaning anythings like fire, wind, or lightning jutus, can't be destroyed by jyuuken, as, despite the fact that they're made of chakra, they can't really be physically touched.

Things like susano'O, earth or water style, or rasengan can be touched and held onto, so they can he destroyed.
They just want to get there 2 cents in. Thread has been solo'd
 

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While not making logical arguments at all? Please. Majority are just saying susanoo is to big and powerful. Sounding like cave men
Gentle fist breaks down techs by cutting the thinnest points of chakra flow with a needle like chakra jab. Susanoo is way to dense to be destroyed in this manner. A web and water prison are both small sized techs that can easily be phased through. Susanoo the construct itself is made from stronger chakra than any normal techs because it's Uchiha. Essentially the argument that gentle fist breaks through Susanoo is the same as saying Gentle fist can break through something like Narutos Bijuu Mode. Which isn't happening.
 

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Gentle fist breaks down techs by cutting the thinnest points of chakra flow with a needle like chakra jab. Susanoo is way to dense to be destroyed in this manner. A web and water prison are both small sized techs that can easily be phased through. Susanoo the construct itself is made from stronger chakra than any normal techs because it's Uchiha. Essentially the argument that gentle fist breaks through Susanoo is the same as saying Gentle fist can break through something like Narutos Bijuu Mode. Which isn't happening.
You're forgetting something. Hyuga are one of the best when it comes to chakra reserve so of course Susanoo can be destroy Not saying Hyuga are best in Chakra manupilating, cause as far as I know, The Senju and Uzumaki are the best in Chakras.

So we can argue that gentle fist can destroy mid scale but this only theoretically
 

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You're forgetting something. Hyuga are one of the best when it comes to chakra reserve so of course Susanoo can be destroy Not saying Hyuga are best in Chakra manupilating, cause as far as I know, The Senju and Uzumaki are the best in Chakras.

So we can argue that gentle fist can destroy mid scale but this only theoretically
No where does it imply Hyuuga have any type of special chakra reserve. :rolleyes: Hyuuga don't hold much of a special place in the manga.
 

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Bijuu dramas aren't fully made up out of chakra, they have positive and negative energy. My point is if the byakugan user can touch it without being harmed then theoretically he should be able to disrupt it. Look you want someone to argue with argue with crystal cause she already provided logical explanations of everything a Hyuuga should theoretically be able to do. This thread has already been solo'd
Right, so you think just by touching the Susano'O (known to have beasts amount of chakra rivaling the Bijuu's themselves) that it will disrupt it automatically? Ok. I wonder how you desperate Hyuga fans will feel about it destroying an actual Bijuu, since that is also made of chakra. The Bijuu's are nothing but big manifestations of chakra.

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They can emit a sharp like chakra needle in their fingertips and cut through thin parts of chakra enhanced attacks. The Susano'O has much more chakra and will not just disappear or collapse from a single finger point. That by itself sounds incredibly stupid.

It's funny how the Hyuga fans claim that a single finger tip can disrupt something as big as this.
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By your logic, all chakra enhanced attacks can be disrupted by the Gentle fists with proper chakra control. If this was the case then the Hyuga would have been relevant for awhile now.
Apparently, the op is asshurt and fixated on the Uchiha being stronger than the Hyuga, as going by his logic and the title, only the Susano'O can be destroyed by Gentle fist, despite that their are a lot more chakra enhanced jutsu's in this manga.

Susano'O is a moving physical form with immense chakra from the user. Jyuuken could stop Kidomaru's thread because they had chakra flowing into them, while Susano'O does not have chakra flowing in it. Susano'O is completely made out of chakra. Susano'O has a physical form that is made of chakra. Jyuuken is hand-to-hand combat used to inflict internal damage through attacking the body's Chakra Pathway System using your own chakra.
 
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By your logic then since Odama rasengan is made of chakra then juken destroys it.

By your logic then since Hell stab is made of chakra then juken destroys it.

By your logic then since Chidori is made of chakra then juken destroys it.

By your logic then since bijuu dama is made of chakra then juken destroys it.

By your logic then since Godoudama is made of chakra then juken destroys it.

See how stupid this sounds. Please adhere to logic and stop posting nonsense. I am done with this thread. Have a nice day.
All of them are correct.

if the user has sufficient amount of chakra, it will destroy them.

That's like Acid. Acid can destroy leaves (for example) but a really thick layer of leaves could survive a bottle of acid.

So if a hyuga has sufficient chakra it can destroy a susano, PS is out of question but the others are totally doable ( Danzo winf attack could damage a Susano, at its weakest part yeah) so a gentle fist attack could disrupt the susano or enough of it.

If Naruto were a Hyuga, he could destroy Bijudamas because he would have had enough chakra for that.
 

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All of them are correct.

if the user has sufficient amount of chakra, it will destroy them.

That's like Acid. Acid can destroy leaves (for example) but a really thick layer of leaves could survive a bottle of acid.

So if a hyuga has sufficient chakra it can destroy a susano, PS is out of question but the others are totally doable ( Danzo winf attack could damage a Susano, at its weakest part yeah) so a gentle fist attack could disrupt the susano or enough of it.

If Naruto were a Hyuga, he could destroy Bijudamas because he would have had enough chakra for that.
But Danzo's wind attack was powered from a rare and really powerful summoning which made his jutsu probably 10x more powerful
 

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no, gentle fist can't destroy susanoo for two reason :

1.susanoo ain't chakra (CHAKRA ALREADY HAS A PHYSICAL FORM IT MAKES NO SENSE TO GIVE IT A PHYSICAL FORM)

2.EVEN IF IT WAS CHAKRA YOU CAN'T DESTROY A STRONGER ONE WITH A WEAKER ONE

EVERYTHING DEVELOPED BY CRYSTAL CHAKRA IS PURE FANFIC
 
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