Gentle Fist can potentialy destroy Sussano [why Hyuuga clan is inferior]

[KCMNaruto]

Hello guys, I would like to talk about the title and I promise it will be short.

First, Sussano is nothing more then thick uchiha chakra manifested around the uchiha man/woman using yin power. Gentle fist of hyuuga is known to destroy chakra.

If above is true then why have we not seen any hyuuga destroying sussano even once ?

The answer is simple Uchiha chakra is much stronger/ thicker or full of yin then hyuuga chakra.
It means hyuuga still can damage sussano but Uchiha chakra used in Sussano is so thick that we dont see change or barerly visible change.

In theory if gentle fist user would have strong chakra and sklls as sussano user then gentle fist > sussano and that what happened Here:

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Here is another example, how Kaguya using just Byakugan while possesing huge chakra push even Naruto's back. I bet Kaguya used Empty Air palm in this picture:

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Of course it is only possible if Gentle fist or air palm connect with Sussano, but Uchiha user could dodge or takes Hyuuga user beforehand

Result : Hyuuga with Uchiha's chakra could beat MS and maybe EMS user(pushing it)

Thanks for reading !

Discuss

Kaguya's chakra > Sasuke's chakra

 

[Sound]

kaguya chakra > Sasuke chakra

This is obvious

 

[Ririchiyo Sama]

Nice thread.

 

[TrollKing]

This is called kaguya/rikudo fist, not gentle fist

 

[donnic]

well we never really seen a hyuga fight a uchiha before, but while i like the hyugas i think you are right merely because they could not get close enough to disable them.

 

[Dantе]

hyugas became fodders after part 2

 

[TrollKing]

hyugas became fodders after part 2

But ot elevating them to clan of god even all hyugas stay garbage

 

[-immortal-]

Gentle Fist can't destroy susano exluding Kaguya!



you misunderstand that Kaguya hit sasuke inside his susano.

She obviously didn't/did. you know why?

sasuke wasn't standing in the armored part when kaguya hit him.

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Obviously Kaguya couldn't hit sasuke and hit the Hawk.

thus that was the point sasuke was uturning

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The armored part of The sùsano wasn't in kaguya direction anymore!.

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thus sasuke got hit. THe point is. You have a part where Susano is only CHakra. and when its armored.
like here for example

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point is. Kaguya wouldn't have hit sasuke was the hawk not hit.

long story short. Hinata cannot hit Sasuke Vital point!

 

[KCMNaruto]

Gentle Fist can't destroy susano exluding Kaguya!



you misunderstand that Kaguya hit sasuke inside his susano.

She obviously didn't/did. you know why?

sasuke wasn't standing in the armored part when kaguya hit him.

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

Obviously Kaguya couldn't hit sasuke and hit the Hawk.

thus that was the point sasuke was uturning

You must be registered for see images

The armored part of The sùsano wasn't in kaguya direction anymore!.

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

thus sasuke got hit. THe point is. You have a part where Susano is only CHakra. and when its armored.
like here for example

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point is. Kaguya wouldn't have hit sasuke was the hawk not hit.

long story short. Hinata cannot hit Sasuke Vital point!

1) Armor created for Sussano to wear/ be clad in is nothing more then manifestion of even more thick chakra using yin release
2) Yes, Hinata could but ONLY IF SHE HAS CHAKRA AS STRONG AS HER OPPONENT. However it will never happen as Uchiha's chakra > Hyuuga's chakra.
3) Well Sasuke is shown clad in Sussano even in place where needle pierced through so I think yes, Kaguya pierced his SUssano armor with Gentle Fist but the it only worked because Kaguya's chakra > Sasuke's chakra, even if they would have same chakra still Kaguya would win

try counter it

 

[shelke]

You are equating what Kaguya accomplished with what Hyuga might accomplish in a similar manner - am I right?

 

[-immortal-]

1) Armor created for Sussano to wear/ be clad in is nothing more then manifestion of even more thick chakra using yin release
2) Yes, Hinata could but ONLY IF SHE HAS CHAKRA AS STRONG AS HER OPPONENT. However it will never happen as Uchiha's chakra > Hyuuga's chakra.
3) Well Sasuke is shown clad in Sussano even in place where needle pierced through so I think yes, Kaguya pierced his SUssano armor with Gentle Fist but the it only worked because Kaguya's chakra > Sasuke's chakra, even if they would have same chakra still Kaguya would win

try counter it

SEe pearced Susano chakra! yes. Susano armor obviously blocked it.

 

[LustyLover]

yes

:sakura:

:sakura:

:sakura:

 

[To Whatever]

You are equating what Kaguya accomplished with what Hyuga might accomplish in a similar manner - am I right?

Someone's gonna end up making Shelke cry again...

OT: It's possible after what we've seen.
But who other than Kaguya is skilled enough to do it?

 

[Prince Charles]

Immortal, your post are confusing. What exactly are you saying?

 

[Styles]

Gentle Fist can't destroy susano exluding Kaguya!



you misunderstand that Kaguya hit sasuke inside his susano.

She obviously didn't/did. you know why?

sasuke wasn't standing in the armored part when kaguya hit him.

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

Obviously Kaguya couldn't hit sasuke and hit the Hawk.

thus that was the point sasuke was uturning

You must be registered for see images

The armored part of The sùsano wasn't in kaguya direction anymore!.

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

thus sasuke got hit. THe point is. You have a part where Susano is only CHakra. and when its armored.
like here for example

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

point is. Kaguya wouldn't have hit sasuke was the hawk not hit.

long story short. Hinata cannot hit Sasuke Vital point!

Honestly that Susano'o hand he used doesn't even look complete it have a wide gap at the center.

 

[KCMNaruto]

You are equating what Kaguya accomplished with what Hyuga might accomplish in a similar manner - am I right?

Yes, but my point is NOT Neji/Hinata > Uchiha or Any Hyuuga > Any Uchiha

Just to estabilish fact that Gentle fist > Sussano, but Sussano always win due to being created from much bigger input chakra then Gentle fist user can input in Gentle fist.

Besides, I won't just assume any Kaguya's feats as Hyuuga's feats, because it is wrong. However it shows True Byakugan's potential especially if Kishi give on panel focusing on Kaguya's activated Byakugan.

I know Kaguya is not just Baykugan, but give credit where it deserves

Someone's gonna end up making Shelke cry again...

OT: It's possible after what we've seen.
But who other than Kaguya is skilled enough to do it?

But this is no point dammit...

I mean Skills alone will accomplish nothing as long as your opponent can overpower you with much greater amount of chakra.

However Give Neji/Hinata Sasuke's chakra and they could destroy Sussano with their Gentle Fist- > DOES NOT MEAN AUTO WIN, as Sasuke would reactivate or use Enton etc. BUT THIS IS NOT MY POINT.

ONLY AMOUNT OF CHAKRA IS WHAT DECIDED SUSSANO USER > GENTLE FIST USER

Hope it clear doubts

 

[TrollKing]

Yes, but my point is NOT Neji/Hinata > Uchiha or Any Hyuuga > Any Uchiha

Just to estabilish fact that Gentle fist > Sussano, but Sussano always win due to being created from much bigger input chakra then Gentle fist user can input in Gentle fist.

Besides, I won't just assume any Kaguya's feats as Hyuuga's feats, because it is wrong. However it shows True Byakugan's potential especially if Kishi give on panel focusing on Kaguya's activated Byakugan.

I know Kaguya is not just Baykugan, but give credit where it deserves

Your scans never even state gentle fist nor hyuuga even once. Therefore your conclusion is out of no where

 

[KCMNaruto]

Your scans never even state gentle fist nor hyuuga even once. Therefore your conclusion is out of no where

Hyuuga yes, I didn't include them in this thread at least directly, but Gentle fist ?

Of couse I did, Kaguya saw Sasuke's chakra points and filled needles with her chakra throwing it at him, but Sussano blocked it, so She had to put more chakra in needle then point in Sussano's armor has so needle pierced through at pierced Sasuke in hand.

SEe pearced Susano chakra! yes. Susano armor obviously blocked it.

Sussano's chakra = Sussano's armor

Difference is amount of chakra put into it and how dense it visualising as layers of Sussano's chakra manifesting as bones, skins and finally armor.

What is that hard to get it ?

 

[shelke]

^ Your post is a bit confusing - in the first image, she simply viewed the vitals and landed a hit with a senbon. The attack has no relevance with the Byakugan. The other seems like Gentle Fist, but Hyuga's usually use Palm Based attacks, I need a chapter to even confirm this.

So, your main point is, that given more chakra - much much more - Hyugas might accomplish the same?

Someone's gonna end up making Shelke cry again...

OT: It's possible after what we've seen.
But who other than Kaguya is skilled enough to do it?

The amount of care you give about my tears ... makes it almost silly romantic.

 

[KCMNaruto]

^ Your post is a bit confusing - in the first image, she simply viewed the vitals and landed a hit with a senbon. The attack has no relevance with the Byakugan. The other seems like Gentle Fist, but Hyuga's usually use Palm Based attacks, I need a chapter to even confirm this.

So, your main point is, that given more chakra - much much more - Hyugas might accomplish the same?





The amount of care you give about my tears ... makes it almost silly romantic.

Exactly you got my point, but it is not true point.

My true point is: Gentle fist abillity > Sussano's abillity given SAME AMOUNT OF CHAKRA

Reason: Gentle fist destroy chakra and Sussano is chakra...

BTW. I am not sure if it depends on just greater amount of chakra because it could be strength of chakra as well, or maybe even amount of Yin element/skills over it which put Uchiha over Hyuuga.

EDIT:

@ bold part, Of course she did but Sussano's armor was in her way so it could only imply that Needle had to pierce through Sussano's dense chakra to even reach Sasuke which is main sign of Gentle Fist utilised.

@ underlined part, well to me it looked more like Empty Air Palm...

Well When Kaguya got slashed by Sasuke Sussano Her aura can be seen to maybe she even used Full body blow technique as Neji but with much greater chakra result was much bigger as repeling and destroying Sasuke's Sussano