[Gen] Genjutsu with Reborn.

[Shīnju]

Yes we have .

 

[Reborn]

Alright, we can move onto regular training.

Genjutsu Kai
Paralysis & Restriction
Concealment
Deception
Hypnotic

These are the five or rather four methods of canon genjutsu + genjutsu kai. Kai itself is only one technique and we will be going through that one first.

We will recap what genjutsu kai is; the slowing down/halting of your chakra system for a brief moment followed by a sudden spike of the chakra system to re-establish proper flow thereby forcing your way out of the genjutsu. The amount by which you spike (rank) depends on the jutsu you're releasing. What this means in regard to our Roleplay; at certain ranks you gain the ability to release higher grades of genjutsu. Right now you can release up to A-rank.

 

[Shīnju]

And official sages can break S ?

 

[Reborn]

That's what I always believed, however once you reach sage in posts you can break S-rank genjutsu with kai, I believe that's what Scorps told to me. So a little less than 1k for you.

 

[Shīnju]

So if i was to put my self in extreme pain bone breaking etc i will able to. BY pass being a sage and break the s rank?

 

[Reborn]

That's not bypassing that's following the rules. Kai is only one method of breaking genjutsu; pain, external chakra infusion, and full-body surge are the others. If you didn't have kai and, you don't have a comrade/partner or one of the advanced versions that allot for external chakra infusion then you have two ways of breaking S-rank genjutsu; high enough inflicted pain or F-ranked body surge.

Of course, even if you are a sage, if you are hit with a paralysis genjutsu and do not already have your hands positioned in a hand seal, you cannot perform kai. Genjutsu kai requires a hand seal. Though, generally; most lone genjutsu techniques will are breakable in some way. Some are just harder than most. Since we're on the genjutsu kai portion we might as well do some theoretical exercises. I don't feel like opening a new tab so

Genjutsu Kai

You can considered that learned.

I'll maybe start doing this with other students but before we start, tell me what you're current stats are as far as training in canon areas.

 

[Shīnju]

Basic 4 mastered , Earth B lol

Gen/Nin =you

Sharingan genjutsu i just started

Taijutsu C

Thats it i believe

 

[Reborn]

Alright, first hypothetical situation.

You're a Kage rank right now, your opponent casts an S-ranked paralysis genjutsu on you. You don't have the ability to use kai on that level and much less, you don't have your hands in position to use any hand signs to begin with. For all extensive purposes you already know you're in the illusion you just need to figure out how to break out of it. With your current level of training, what can you currently do with your canonical knowledge to release you from this genjutsu?

 

[Shīnju]

Nothing . Cant move nor make any handseals,

I have a question in a paralyzed genjutsu one cant move , so if i was to try and move would i actually be moving in reality ?

 

[Reborn]

I know of quite a few ways with the stuff you have to break out of a jutsu. Do you necessarily need to use hand seals for techniques?

the centers of the brain controlling your sense of touch, specifically your voluntary and involuntary motor movements are being manipulated. As far as they can tell, they can't move and thus you won't be able to physically move.

 

[Shīnju]

Mostly all techniques require a handseal or something except weight addition and weight reduction earth technique

 

[Reborn]

You don't have to go past D-rank, I'll give you that much of a hint for the most simplistic of methods.

 

[Shīnju]

Raiton: Raikou Oonami

Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user will concentrate their chakra and slam their hand on the ground to release a surge of lightning across the ground to the opponents feet to shock them.



? if this is not it I have no idea.

 

[Reborn]

Not, quite, but you're on the right track. D-rank earth release technique, or D-rank lightning release technique (not entirely sure if they've been taken out) However there is a great deal of versatility with those techniques which allows you to freely manipulate your chakra for various purposes up to mid-range. I've seen many people make pillars rise from the ground to impale a part of their body which would cause enough pain to break you out of the genjutsu. You can use this with virtually any of the generic D-rank base elemental techniques since they don't require hand seals and you don't even have to move much. You're still capable of flowing your chakra. Quite honestly that's one of the only remaining uses for canon D-rank generic techniques.

 

[Shīnju]

Eh I never seen someone use pillars on there self . But too bad the d ranks are trash never seen people nowadays use genjutsu under c rank

 

[Reborn]

We're on the 4th page and you haven't learned a thing. I don't see you as being too genjutsu inclined for the advanced placement that I give to some of my other students so I'm just going to give you the fundamentals for you to survive with genjutsu. Now if you recall the four methods of this training; Paralysis/Restriction, Deception, Concealment, and Hypnotic pick one of these methods (aside form Hypnotic) and decide which sort of genjutsu you want to learn first.

Also I dropped your ninjutsu training since you haven't responded to that in months.

 

[Shīnju]

Lets see what deception has

 

[Reborn]

Deception is almost an inappropriate term to coin to just one method of genjutsu. All genjutsu are by definition deceptive in nature, they create falsehoods that trick your opponent into experiencing/believing things are real when they aren't. However, this method distinctly deals with creating illusions that are more discrete in nature and serve the purpose of creating a false sense of security for opponents that would otherwise leave them open.

Not all canon techniques in this method are hard to distinguish but a fair many of them are. When creating your own genjutsu of this type you want to think of things that are difficult think out of without metagaming. Subtle changes to the environment, changes that would not cause one to suspect they are in an illusion, etc.

 

[Shīnju]

Would be hard to that lol "Similar techniques exist " declined



So this justifies basic deception as for example basic genjutsu that really doesn't change anything but small things that are hardly noticeable?

 

[Reborn]

Generally, yes

As for the "similar technique exist" this is why you need to be creative. General concepts may have been used before but if you add enough of a twist to them to make it unique you should be fine.