[Genjutsu Training] Xmas Group ±± Professor Sarutobi & Inch
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Professor Sarutobi
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Ok! Well, our first exercise is chakra control! As you know, the basic principles of Genjutsu require great chakra control. To achieve that you'll do a simple training.
I want you both to sit crossing your legs in front of each other. Then, i want you both to release your chakra into one and other while you focus. If you do things right, you'll both feel a kind of tickle in the back of your neck. Remember to target your partners nervous system. Remember to keep your breathing under control and to input enough chakra into this.
Try it ^^
I want you both to sit crossing your legs in front of each other. Then, i want you both to release your chakra into one and other while you focus. If you do things right, you'll both feel a kind of tickle in the back of your neck. Remember to target your partners nervous system. Remember to keep your breathing under control and to input enough chakra into this.
Try it ^^
Professor Sarutobi
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As I sit down cross legged I begin molding my chakra and releasing it outwards then directing it to the top of inch's head and spreading it through his nervous system and trying to produce a tickle on the back of inch's neck as I keep my breathing calm and keeping a steady stream of chakra flowing into his system.
*I sit down across from Proffesor Sarutobi and cross my legs. I breathe deeply in and out, relaxing my mind as I do so. After having calmed myself, I project my chakra forward into his brain. I manipulate my chakra so that it moves into the lower back of his head/upper back of his neck. I then inject my chakra into his spinal cord. Using his spinal cord as a sort of guide, I project my chakra throughout the entiritey of his nervous system, and into his brain. I then use my chakra to manipulate his sense of touch so that he feels a slight tickling on the back of his neck.*
Well, i can clearly see that the procedure is being done correctly by both. But what about the chakra input? Can any of you actually feel the ticklish feeling in tthe back of your head?
Professor Sarutobi
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Well, you use your chakra to make your enemy feel a tickle. Thus, if Sarutobi used enough chakra into you, you should be able to have felt a tickle on the back of your mind.
This exercise serves as a way to establish a baseline for genjutsu. That ticklish sensation is just a simple one that you were aiming for, however, most genjutsu work exactly like that but with other effects.
Professor Sarutobi
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Right! Now, i want you both to try and make me and my clone *makes a clone* perceive a wall in front of us. Use the same principle but "will" your chakra to make me visualize a wall. You need to, in your own minds, also visualize the wall. This can be tricky, but its called Yin manipulation. Using your imagination to will and mold your chakra into the desired effect.
Try it ^^
Try it ^^
Professor Sarutobi
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I focus on molding my yin chakra while breathing at a steady pace and send my chakra out around me tgen direct it towards your clone and you flowing it through the tops of your heads and down into your eyes to use my chakra and make the image of a grey stone wall in my mind appear in front of you, I keep a steady flow of chakra to your brain and eyes so the wall forms at the right size ( about 6 feet tall and 10 feet wide) and making sure not to blow your head off by applying too much.
*I begin focusing my chakra and streaming it into your clone's brain. Once the appropriate amount of chakra has reached the brain of your clone, I begin working my chakra deeper into his brain to manipulate his sense of sight. I use my chakra to to manipulate his vision so that a wall rises out of the ground just in front of him. After having raised the wall, I make sure to keep using my chakra to maintain the vision, for if I were to stop, the vision of the wall would stop as well.*
*suddenly a wall appears in front of me*
Hey clone, you seeing this? A wall?
Yeah boss!!
Good! Excellent!!! Now, you've learned this techinque:
(Genjutsu: Kokohin) - Illusion Technique: False surrounding
Rank: D
Type:Supplementary
Range:Short
Chakra Cost:10(+5 if you use it double)
Damage Points:N/A
Description: The user controls creates a false surrounding which can change the way an object or small area looks(if used double then its a layer of false surroundings not easy noticed by the enemy).
Now, analyze this and tell some key points:
-Possible combos or good uses of this techinque?
-Limitations
-How would you counter this in a battle?
-Creative use (meaning, how far can you stretch the use of this technique in terms of creativity)
Professor Sarutobi
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-Possible combos or good uses of this techinque?
Make changes to the terrain while they are blinded by smoke or flashs, hide yourself in false surroundings and use empty cicada to throw tour voice and throw off their idea of where you are hiding. Make demon-wind shuriken look line normal ones so they try countering with normal shuriken that bounce off and lets yours hit, make the ground look like swamp and this will either make them waste time to counter or when they realize its fake use a real one to surprise catch them.
-Limitations
Can be easily broken with kai or minor pain, can't do huge illusions and cant make solid objects so your false objects can be walked through or seen past with even low level dojutsu
-How would you counter this in a battle?
Kai, or knowing little things like walls for example dont materialize out of no where, if it was a real wall you would feel the ground shake and hear it crack from it forming and rising so you can merely walk through it or attack through it.
-Creative use
Make the ground look like a swamp and when they realize its fake if they dont take the time to release themselves from it you can make a real swamp in the false one that they will walk into.
Make the top of a antlion or hole from moving earth core look like normal ground and lead them to fall into it.
Disguise bomb tags as leaves and drop them on to your enemy.
Make a false wall and a real wall behind it ( the kind you spit so it doesn't give as much of a warning, and if you can get them to run through the fake wall they will run into the real one behind it ( same with attacking through it)
Make a false wall to block their sight of your elemental combo until it passes through giving less time to react to it and hiding your hand seals from them
Make changes to the terrain while they are blinded by smoke or flashs, hide yourself in false surroundings and use empty cicada to throw tour voice and throw off their idea of where you are hiding. Make demon-wind shuriken look line normal ones so they try countering with normal shuriken that bounce off and lets yours hit, make the ground look like swamp and this will either make them waste time to counter or when they realize its fake use a real one to surprise catch them.
-Limitations
Can be easily broken with kai or minor pain, can't do huge illusions and cant make solid objects so your false objects can be walked through or seen past with even low level dojutsu
-How would you counter this in a battle?
Kai, or knowing little things like walls for example dont materialize out of no where, if it was a real wall you would feel the ground shake and hear it crack from it forming and rising so you can merely walk through it or attack through it.
-Creative use
Make the ground look like a swamp and when they realize its fake if they dont take the time to release themselves from it you can make a real swamp in the false one that they will walk into.
Make the top of a antlion or hole from moving earth core look like normal ground and lead them to fall into it.
Disguise bomb tags as leaves and drop them on to your enemy.
Make a false wall and a real wall behind it ( the kind you spit so it doesn't give as much of a warning, and if you can get them to run through the fake wall they will run into the real one behind it ( same with attacking through it)
Make a false wall to block their sight of your elemental combo until it passes through giving less time to react to it and hiding your hand seals from them
-Possible combos or good uses of this techinque?: I feel like this is a jutsu that's best use is deception. For example, this could be used to mask things like the existence of a swamp in front of them, or other similar effects. (Though these type of effects may require the 'double' function of this jutsu. This could also be used to force enemies to look away from the user for a split second. For example, creating the illusion that you made a clone appear a short distance to the right of someone should suffice.
-Limitations: It's general low rank is one makes it rather limited. All of the methods to escape genjutsu work on this easily: pain, kai, doujutsu, etc.. I feel like the biggest limitation to this, and to all genjutsu in fact, is that people are able to read that a genjutsu was cast, and thus they are able to do extremely coincidental things to figure out that it's a genjutsu that they normally would never do.
-How would you counter this in a battle?: I think I would attempt to use logic to allow my character to know that it's an illusion, and then use kai or pain to break it. For example, if someone were to create a fake clone next to me, I could 'know' that something is odd because no hand seals were performed and it was created over a longer range than usual, thus something is wrong.
-Creative use:
I believe one of the most effective ways to use this jutsu is to use it to block the target's sense of sight. For example, making it appear as if a dome of earth rose around them, thus blocking their vision and leaving them vulnerable while they attempted to work around the genjutsu.
Another effective way to use this, as I said before, is to mask things that really happened. For example, this could be used to make the ground look normal, but in reality create a deep trench directly in front of them.
-Limitations: It's general low rank is one makes it rather limited. All of the methods to escape genjutsu work on this easily: pain, kai, doujutsu, etc.. I feel like the biggest limitation to this, and to all genjutsu in fact, is that people are able to read that a genjutsu was cast, and thus they are able to do extremely coincidental things to figure out that it's a genjutsu that they normally would never do.
-How would you counter this in a battle?: I think I would attempt to use logic to allow my character to know that it's an illusion, and then use kai or pain to break it. For example, if someone were to create a fake clone next to me, I could 'know' that something is odd because no hand seals were performed and it was created over a longer range than usual, thus something is wrong.
-Creative use:
I believe one of the most effective ways to use this jutsu is to use it to block the target's sense of sight. For example, making it appear as if a dome of earth rose around them, thus blocking their vision and leaving them vulnerable while they attempted to work around the genjutsu.
Another effective way to use this, as I said before, is to mask things that really happened. For example, this could be used to make the ground look normal, but in reality create a deep trench directly in front of them.
Excellent analisys! Now, don't forget that although quite useful, this technique is also very simple. So unless you have a genjutsu specialist bio you can't make too detailed and intricate illusions. However, most of the times you won't need to. A good combo with this is for example, you make your enemy see the ground as it normally is. Then you make spikes come from beneath. He won't see the ground as strange and he won't see the spikes coming from beneath. OR the other way around. you can make your enemy see spikes on the ground and he'll counter with lightning or such and you can follow with water for example.
Questions?^^
Professor Sarutobi
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Does 2nd mizukage count as a genjutsu specialist bio?
And its unrelated to the training but is body flicker allowed in an all out fight?
Other then that I don't think so
And its unrelated to the training but is body flicker allowed in an all out fight?
Other then that I don't think so
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