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Please tell me what you know about genjutsu, who are the most well known for the usage of it? And why you want to learn genjutsu? Detail is important.
 

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Genjutsu, also known as Illusionary Arts are
techniques like ninjutsu,but they are only Illusions as
the name states. Though these Illusions affect the
chakra flow of the opponent's brain, making them
believe that this illusion is indeed reality. It affects
the five senses. So Genjutsu creates images and pain
to the opponent to enhance the effect of reality. The
brain is led to believe it, so it hurts the opponent.
Some Genjutsu can trap you in a loop or even
manipulate you. Genjutsu requires handseals to
perform. One of the most dangerous Genjutsu are
those that are executed using sound, as the user can
stay out of sight.The Uchiha with their Sharingan are
known to be good with performing Genjutsu and also
recognizing it and combating it.
Users are Itachi, Sasuke, Jiraiya...
I want to learn Genjutsu because it gives you an upper hand in the battle and makes it more easier
 

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You explained the most well known, so below I will explain a bit more.

Make sure you give both this quotes and the link a read.



How to dispel a Genjutsu and why

Simple answer lies in what is a Genjutsu. Genjutsu is a disruption of your normal chakra flow that makes you experience an illusion as it scrambles your chakra. We have gone through that so you might ask how does this help?

Ok, if a Genjutsu is a disruption in your own chakra flow, to dispel it you need to create a stronger disruption that will clear that one and leave your chakra on its normal state. So basically, there is only one way to dispel genjutsu: disrupting your chakra flow.

Now, this can be done in 3 basic ways:

1- Altering the balance between physical and spiritual energies in your chakra by disturbing your physical energy. This is done by producing pain. Pain comes from the body and thus it makes your physical energy fluctuate. Because of this fluctuation your chakra flow experiences a spike. This spike is a disturbance that will dispel other disturbances present in your chakra.

2- Altering the balance between physical and spiritual energies in your chakra by disturbing your spiritual energy. This is done by your sheer will power. Its done by forcefully creating a surge of chakra in your body by spiking your spiritual energy. It can be done in 2 ways: through a technique named Kai and through other techniques, like Nagashi, that will produce a high enough surge of chakra through your body.

3- Altering your chakra flow through the introduction of foreign chakra. This can be done by an ally or by entering for example, sage mode or being a jinchuriki. The truth is that as foreign chakra enters your system or another energy (natural energy), your chakra flow becomes altered and thus releases from the genjutsu.

All of these produce a reset-like effect on your chakra flow, making it return to normal.
Also here is everything you covered plus a little more.
±± Genjutsu ±±
Genjutsu, or Illusionary Arts, unlike ninjutsu, don't produce a real, palpable, feasible effect; it produces an illusionary effect. With a specific KG however, the illusions can become so strong that the body will be fooled into mimicking in real life the fake effects its perceiving through the illusion. There exists two types of Genjutsu: the passive, non chakra fueled ones (basically illusions to our senses like visual paradoxes and such which have little use in the RP and can be easily overcome through experience and logic) and the active, chakra fueled ones. Within the active chakra fueled ones two subtypes exist: Dojutsu induced Genjutsu and Normal Genjutsu.

Genjutsu works by using chakra to disturb the chakra flow of the opponent, specially in the brain, altering his senses. By doing this you can make him perceive any thing his senses are capable of: pain, heat, cold, tickles, iching, etc etc. A ninja can make the opponent taste, smell, feel, see or hear anything he wants. However, because this is done by using your chakra to manipulate his chakra flow, the ninja needs to be close or, many times, have direct eye contact or even physical contact. This is the main limitation of Genjutsu: range. The further you are away from your opponent, the harder it is to induce the fluctuation on his chakra flow to produce the genjutsu.

How exactly does it work? Well, every one has a balanced chakra flow. The chakra flows in a balanced combination of both physical and spiritual energies. The ratio between them vary from person to person (that is how each person has a different chakra signature) but its always calm and balanced. To produce a genjutsu, a ninja uses his chakra to disturb that balance in a controlled way. This is done in a similar way to ninjutsu, throught both focusing and molding chakra. A fluctuation is then created in the targets chakra "wave length" and makes it fluctuate in a given way. This produces the illusion by scrambling the users link between his Spirit and his Body which effectively is the link between his mind and his senses. To make your chakra be capable of doing the correct fluctuation, you need to use, most of the times, handseals. These help you mold and shape and focus your chakra to the correct wave length you want to induce, thus enabling you to use it to disturb the targets chakra flow.
Any questions?
 

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Okay great, time to start the techniques.

The following template is what I want you to fill out with every technique that I show you.

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(Magen: Kokoni Arazu no Jutsu) - Demonic Illusion: False Surroundings Technique
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 10 (+5 if you use it double)
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user casts an illusion over an area that allows him to manipulate the way an area looks to fool an opponent. He can only change the way the terrain looks, and not any other feature.

Okay so, here I would like you to focus your chakra towards my clone and insert it into its brain; that makes him believe that the surrounding area has changed, but of course within reason. This technique can only change the way the area looks, can't do anything else besides that. So you could change the terrain to rocky area, green plains and even a desert, but you have to be smart about it.
 

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(Magen: Kokoni Arazu no Jutsu) - Demonic
Illusion: False Surroundings Technique



I focus my chakra, transferring it towards your clone and inserting it into its brain; that
makes him believe that the surrounding area has
changed. This technique
can only change the way the area looks,Changing the rocky terrain to green plains
  • •Changing a dry terrain into terrain with water makes the opponent try to use a water defense technique when a fire jutsu is used
    •No handseals
    •Gives the opponent upper hand and easier to lure him into a trap
 

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You missed like half the template, redo.

One/three advantages:
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One/three disadvantages:
  • 1.
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  • 3.
How you would use it in battle:
How you would counter it:
How you perform it (with as much detail as you can):
 

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(Magen: Kokoni Arazu no Jutsu) - Demonic
Illusion: False Surroundings Technique



I focus my chakra, transferring it towards your clone and inserting it into its brain; that
makes him believe that the surrounding area has
changed. This technique
can only change the way the area looks,Changing the rocky terrain to green plains
Advantages:
  • •Changing a dry terrain into terrain with water makes the opponent try to use a water defense technique when a fire jutsu is used
    •No handseals
    •Gives the opponent upper hand and easier to lure him into a trap
Disadvantages
  • •Easy to detect
    •Too basic, can't do anything apart from change terrain
    •Low rank jutsu
How you would use it in battle:When fighting in a water terrain, I will use to jutsu to make the terrain look the terrain look the same, I then use my jutsu that removes all water from the terrain... I then attack with S Rank fire
How you would counter it: By detecting the change in environment, I'll get I'm in a genjutsu... So, I'll inflict pain on myself by stabbing myself in a non vital part
How you perform it:(Magen: Kokoni Arazu no Jutsu) - Demonic
Illusion: False Surroundings Technique

I focus my chakra,and when I have focused enough, i transferred it towards, your clone and inserting it into its brain;thereby using my chakra to disrupt his chakra flow this makes him believe that the surrounding area has
changed. This technique
can only change the way the area looks,Changing the rocky terrain to green plains
 
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Better.

(Genjutsu: Kahen Tonsou) - Illusion Technique: Flower Petal Escape
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 10
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user makes five handseals, appearing to dissolve into a shower of cherry blossom petals. These petals surround the opponent, blocking his vision. This allows the user to mask his movement effectively.

This one seems a little useless, perform the big amount of handseals [silly imo for such a low rank technique] then insert your chakra into your targets brain, they will see a shower of cherry blossom petals, this cover his vision. Mainly used to cover your tracks, and/or retreat or whatnot.
 

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(Genjutsu: Kahen Tonsou) - Illusion Technique:
Flower Petal Escape


Advantages:
  • •Uses to surprise attack the opponents
    •You can block the opponent's view
    •Easy to retreat
Disadvantages
  • •Easy to detect its a genjutsu
    •Too basic, useless
    •Many handseals
How you would use it in battle:I will use this technoique and attack immediately before he breaks it
How you would counter it: By detecting the
obvious change, I'll get I'm in a genjutsu... So,
I'll inflict pain on myself by stabbing myself in a non
vital part
How you perform it:(Magen: Kokoni Arazu no
Jutsu) - Demonic
Illusion: False Surroundings Technique

I focus my chakra,and when I have focused enough, i
transferred it towards, your clone and inserting it into
its brain;thereby using my chakra to disrupt his
chakra flow this makes him believe he sees a blossom shower
.
 

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How you would counter it: By detecting the
obvious change, I'll get I'm in a genjutsu... So,
I'll inflict pain on myself by stabbing myself in a non
vital part

Going to need another example. Try again.
 

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How to counter it:Detecting the change, I will analyze and know I'm in a genjutsu. I will then focus my chakra and disrupt my chakra flow
 

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Eh, fine.

How you perform it Magen: Kokoni Arazu no
Jutsu) - Demonic
Illusion: False Surroundings Technique
I focus my chakra,and when I have focused enough, i
transferred it towards, your clone and inserting it into
its brain;thereby using my chakra to disrupt his
chakra flow this makes him believe he sees a blossom shower

Don't copy and pasta your replies, then change a small amount of the wording. Try it again, with more detail. Where does your target see the petals?
 

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How you perform it Magen: Kokoni Arazu no
Jutsu) - Demonic
Illusion: False Surroundings Technique

I focus my chakra, and when I have focused enough, I weave 5 handseals and doing this, I release my chakra into your clone's brain thereby making him see blossom coming down in front of him obstructing his view
 

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How you perform it Magen: Kokoni Arazu no
Jutsu) - Demonic
Illusion: False Surroundings Technique

I focus my chakra, and when I have focused enough, I weave 5 handseals and doing this, I release my chakra into your clone's brain thereby making him see blossom coming down in front of him obstructing his view
What technique is that supposed to be? I am confused is it (Magen: Kokoni Arazu no Jutsu) - Demonic Illusion: False Surroundings Technique or (Genjutsu: Kahen Tonsou) - Illusion Technique: Flower Petal Escape?
 

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Awful. Just awful.

One/three advantages:
  • 1. It's not a heavily visual illusion, meaning that dissolving in to petals could be construed as elemental technique or even a variant of body flicker. Making it harder to identify.
  • 2. The genjutsu doesn't require visual contact of any type and only directly affects yourself making it effective even if you have no direct line of sight momentarily.
  • 3. Well this type of genjutsu is excellent for masking movement or even another technique once it has begun and throws the enemy off your location quite effectively.
One/three disadvantages:
  • 1. Well the main disadvantage would be the large number of handseals required for such a basic genjutsu. Making it difficult to use as quickly as would be needed sometimes.
  • 2. Aside from that it's generally low rank means it's easily broken by minor pain, and of course the usage of Kai or any full body surge of C rank and above.
  • 3. The final drawback in my opinion would be how susceptible you still are to large area attacks if you did attempt to use this to mask movement.
How you would use it in battle: Simple and effective is the way to go with this, use it on an enemy advancing for a taijutsu attack and attempt to use it to outmaneuver him and deal a powerful hit. Alternatively it could be used to mask your location allowing you to freely fire another technique from the cover of the illusion.
How you would counter it: Quite simple to counter this technique really, you simply need to recognize it first. A key way to recognize this illusion is knowing it yourself, and by understanding that flower manipulation is an aspect of a certain KG which the user may not have. Eliminating the chance of it being elemental.
How you perform it (with as much detail as you can): I begin by first making the required string of five handseals. Then extending my chakra in a raw form throughout the field. Targeting my opponents mind directly, once the chakra is placed and the genjutsu is logged on course my opponent would begin to see me seemingly dissolve from his vision in a swarm of beautiful sakura petals, causing me to be masked from his sight.

Put some effort in. That is all. <_>
 

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Oh.. Sorry. A mistake. Copied the topic from a wrong thread
(Genjutsu: Kahen Tonsou) - Illusion Technique:
Flower Petal Escape

I focus my chakra, and when I have focused enough, I
weave 5 handseals and doing this, I release my
chakra into your clone's brain thereby making him
see blossom coming down in front of him obstructing
his view
 
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