Gedo Mazo=Juubi?

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So this is the Juubi, on the other hand, here's a picture of the Gedo Mazo:
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and the one which was summoned by Nagato:
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You can't really count the tails, because they're not in sight, neither you can confirm that it doesn't have tails on it's back.
Anyhow, the Juubi had 10 tails and it arms? or don't know what, near his head.
The Gedo Mazou has over 10 'tails' aswell, just that they're cut out.
My theory is, that Gedo Mazou is actually an Edo Tensei like resurrection of the Juubi, just that it doesn't have any chakra.
Also notice the bandage on it's eyes, where he's supposed to have that rinnegan/sharingan combined eyes.
Also not everyone can summon the Gedo Mazou, only the wielders of the Rinnegan: Nagato and Tobi of who we know so far.
 

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They do kinda look alike.
 

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It's a big possible. +rep :)

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Just sayiiin'
 
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possible :shrug:
 

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Definitely. It is not the original body of the Juubi, but it is Tobi's version of the Juubi, since its original body is sealed away in the moon.
 

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it has been discussed already my friend, but good eyes
 

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it has been discussed already my friend, but good eyes

Sorry it's not like I wanted to steal your idea, tbh I noticed this quite some time ago(the comparision between the two), but now I was rewatching some episodes, and I though I'll make a topic this time, since I was like 99.99% sure that they're the 'same'.
 

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No they are not the same. The So6P sealed the Juubi's body inside the moon.
 

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No they are not the same. The So6P sealed the Juubi's body inside the moon.

I never read about that, anyhow, it's Kuchiyose: Gedo Mazou, so a summoning technique, it doesn't matter where the object or animal that you want to summon is as long as you'v emade a contract with it, and appearently, the Rinnegan is the contract for that.
Anyhow, from where'd you get this idea?
The Juubi was split down, and Rikudou Sennin created the 9 tailed beasts instead of it.
 

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Thought the same for quite some time. With Tobi's ability it teleport not only himself but the things he touches as well. And how much planning that went into all of this before the war started. I see it completely in the realm of possibility that he has either gone to the moon and extracted the juubi's body or at least its cells and made a summon out of them.
 

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I never read about that, anyhow, it's Kuchiyose: Gedo Mazou, so a summoning technique, it doesn't matter where the object or animal that you want to summon is as long as you'v emade a contract with it, and appearently, the Rinnegan is the contract for that.
Anyhow, from where'd you get this idea?
The Juubi was split down, and Rikudou Sennin created the 9 tailed beasts instead of it.

Gedo Mazo (外道魔像) literally means Outer Path Evil Statue or it can more conventionally be translated as the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path.

It's name disproves the idea that it is the Juubi's body.

It is a Rinnegan summoning. Probably a summoning of the So6P himself.
It doesn't operate on it's own and needs to either be connected to the summoner via chakra rods (Nagato) or have chakra sealed inside it.

It's an incredibly powerful sealing vessel, seeing that it's able to contain 7 bijuus full chakra, 1/8th of the Hachibi's and the Kyuubi chakra of the Kin and Gin brothers.

It doesn't look like the Juubi's body.
The Juubi's body is depicted more like the Kyuubi's. Gedo Mazo's stature is far too much like a human to resemble the Juubi.
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It looks as if it's made from Mokuton.
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Look at the texture.

It's a known fact that Mokuton is able to suppress bijuu chakra. The only three characters we know that have the ability to use Mokuton are Hashirama, Yamato and Edo Madara imbued with Senjuu DNA.

Remember, only Edo Madara possesses the Rinnegan, which Gedo Mazo can be summoned with. Edo Madara confirmed that he hadn't used Mokuton before by wanting to try it out when he was fighting the Kage's.

The above information leads to a possibility.
Hashirama was the direct descendant of the Sage, so his Mokuton ability might be coming from his bloodline.
The Sage was most probably able to use Mokuton. If we accept this idea, we can clearly say that Gedo Mazo was the creation of the Sage. A Mokuton sealing vessel that's able to contain and control bijuu chakra.
 
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i think this is obvious..it explains why the gedo eats tailed beast like cereal..

You can argue its body is in the moon..but Tobi can teleport..plus there is Summoning Tech + Reverse Summoning..and only Rinnegan users have been shown to be able to summon Gedo..so the Rinnegan is the contract (is why Juubi had Rinnegan+Sharingan eye) and it also explains why the Uchiha can control tailed beast with there Sharingan, because Juubi had Rinnegan+Sharingan, this indicates the Sharingan being able to control the TB is because they all originally belonged to Juubi

Rinnegan controls Juubi's body
Sharingan controls Juubi's chakra(tailed beast)

or something like that, either way makes sense that Gedo = Juubi without chakra
 

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Gedo Mazo (外道魔像) literally means Outer Path Evil Statue or it can more conventionally be translated as the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path.

It's name disproves the idea that it is the Juubi's body.

It is a Rinnegan summoning. Probably a summoning of the So6P himself.
It doesn't operate on it's own and needs to either be connected to the summoner via chakra rods (Nagato) or have chakra sealed inside it.

It's an incredibly powerful sealing vessel, seeing that it's able to contain 7 bijuus full chakra, 1/8th of the Hachibi's and the Kyuubi chakra of the Kin and Gin brothers.

It doesn't look like the Juubi's body.
The Juubi's body is depicted more like the Kyuubi's. Gedo Mazo's stature is far too much like a human to resemble the Juubi.
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It looks as if it's made from Mokuton.
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Look at the texture.



It's a known fact that Mokuton is able to suppress bijuu chakra. The only three characters we know that have the ability to use Mokuton are Hashirama, Yamato and Edo Madara imbued with Senjuu DNA.

Remember, only Edo Madara possesses the Rinnegan, which Gedo Mazo can be summoned with. Edo Madara confirmed that he hadn't used Mokuton before by wanting to try it out when he was fighting the Kage's.

The above information leads to a possibility.
Hashirama was the direct descendant of the Sage, so his Mokuton ability might be coming from his bloodline.
The Sage was most probably able to use Mokuton. If we accept this idea, we can clearly say that Gedo Mazo was the creation of the Sage. A Mokuton sealing vessel that's able to contain and control bijuu chakra.
I'm aware of it's meaning and everything you've posted.
Indeed, it's some kind of a Mokuton technique, but that still doesn't mean anything.
I'm positive that the Rikudou Sennin created Gedo Mazo, and it could've been a good way to distribute the Juubi's chakra in 9 parts.
Well Juubi was shown only in flashbacks, also it's different the one that was shown in the anime from the one that was showed in the manga, if you do notice that.
 

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I'm aware of it's meaning and everything you've posted.
Indeed, it's some kind of a Mokuton technique, but that still doesn't mean anything.
I'm positive that the Rikudou Sennin created Gedo Mazo, and it could've been a good way to distribute the Juubi's chakra in 9 parts.
Well Juubi was shown only in flashbacks, also it's different the one that was shown in the anime from the one that was showed in the manga, if you do notice that.

I was going to quote him til I read the part "The sage was most probably able to use mokoton" because thats already been stated atleast twice in the manga..

You got a good point tho about Gedo being a Mokoton creation to distribute Juubi into 9 parts..Gedo might not be the original body of Juubi but it sure does look like it..

To me Gedo looking "humanoid" and Juubi looking like Kyuubi..is the same as Naruto with the fox cloak chakra..Juubi picture = cloak of all the tailed beast chakra, making him looking beastly.. Gedo picture = no cloak of chakra, seeing his actual body

doesn't explain the 9 eye sockets tho..unless when so6p broke it down it caused the 1 giant eye to turn into 9, for the 9 parts he was missing
 

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Well I'm interested if anything about the SO6P will be revealed after the war, wecan't argue really about this without any proof.
We've seen Gedo Mazo a few times, and the Juubi just once I believe.
 

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remember the "Eye of the moon plan". tobi's gonna seal the jubi to himself, being its jinchuriki and using the moon where the jubi's body is sealed to apply the infinite tsukuyomi.. so it means its not the jubi's body.. maybe they have the similarities but gedo mazo is just a summoning that can seal the bijuus chakra as we seen in the naruto series..
 
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I never read about that, anyhow, it's Kuchiyose: Gedo Mazou, so a summoning technique, it doesn't matter where the object or animal that you want to summon is as long as you'v emade a contract with it, and appearently, the Rinnegan is the contract for that.
Anyhow, from where'd you get this idea?
The Juubi was split down, and Rikudou Sennin created the 9 tailed beasts instead of it.

This reminds me how did Tobi summon the 9 tails after he extracted it from uzumaki? and he didn't have a rennigan? and I don't remember him pulling a contract out of Kurama's mouth or a**.
wats up with that?
 

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This reminds me how did Tobi summon the 9 tails after he extracted it from uzumaki? and he didn't have a rennigan? and I don't remember him pulling a contract out of Kurama's mouth or a**.
wats up with that?

Her seal was already breaking, since it gets weakened by child birth. Tobi just sped that up.
Once you control Kurama (at least with the Sharingan), you can summon it. I mean, it's not like Nagato signed a contract for Gedo Mazo, the Rinnegan provided access to it.
 
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Gedo Mazo (外道魔像) literally means Outer Path Evil Statue or it can more conventionally be translated as the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path.

It's name disproves the idea that it is the Juubi's body.

It is a Rinnegan summoning. Probably a summoning of the So6P himself.
It doesn't operate on it's own and needs to either be connected to the summoner via chakra rods (Nagato) or have chakra sealed inside it.

It's an incredibly powerful sealing vessel, seeing that it's able to contain 7 bijuus full chakra, 1/8th of the Hachibi's and the Kyuubi chakra of the Kin and Gin brothers.

It doesn't look like the Juubi's body.
The Juubi's body is depicted more like the Kyuubi's. Gedo Mazo's stature is far too much like a human to resemble the Juubi.
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It looks as if it's made from Mokuton.
You must be registered for see images

Look at the texture.

It's a known fact that Mokuton is able to suppress bijuu chakra. The only three characters we know that have the ability to use Mokuton are Hashirama, Yamato and Edo Madara imbued with Senjuu DNA.

Remember, only Edo Madara possesses the Rinnegan, which Gedo Mazo can be summoned with. Edo Madara confirmed that he hadn't used Mokuton before by wanting to try it out when he was fighting the Kage's.

The above information leads to a possibility.
Hashirama was the direct descendant of the Sage, so his Mokuton ability might be coming from his bloodline.
The Sage was most probably able to use Mokuton. If we accept this idea, we can clearly say that Gedo Mazo was the creation of the Sage. A Mokuton sealing vessel that's able to contain and control bijuu chakra.

best explanation thus far but I believe that Madaras depiction of the juubi is an imaginative silluette and it will prolly turn out to look much different.
 
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Her seal was already breaking, since it gets weakened by child birth. Tobi just sped that up.
Once you control Kurama (at least with the Sharingan), you can summon it. I mean, it's not like Nagato signed a contract for Gedo Mazo, the Rinnegan provided access to it.

I understand he was able to control it with Sharingan. But he specifically used Kuchiyose-no-jutsu to summon kurama to the village. And he did not have a Rinnegan yet.
 
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