[Tier] Gauge Naruto and Sasuke's Lv. reversal roles. (SM and MS)

[sayian]

War arc - Sagemode Naruto

VS

- deidara <--- start
- mei (indoors)
- itachi (indoors)
- killer B (v1 max) (edited)
- Ay (kage summit)
- Danzo (same restrictions)
- MS kakashi (below bridge)

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Mangekyou Sasuke

VS

- orochi (sasuke's susanoo restricted for orochi's sake) <-- start
- Kakuzu
- Pain (keeps same restrictions used against naruto)
- 3rd Raikage
- edo Mu
- edo itachi (itachi can only use 1 susanoo max)
- edo Nagato (low mobility) (cst restricted)

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There's two scenarios for both naruto and sasuke.

scenario1 - Each fight, naruto and sasuke replinishes health, stamina and chakra.
scenario2- They don't. they must continue to keep fighting. there is no brief moment to relax.​

NOTE: Edo tensei does not regenerate limbs. kurama has no influences. i.e no handouts. purely own power.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

so sasuke gets ems or nah

 

[DHOH]

Some one just made this exact thread

 

[sayian]

Some one just made this exact thread

Can't that be said for every versus thread.

so sasuke gets ems or nah

I said no handouts, that includes ems.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Scenario 1:Sasuke stops at 3rd raikage. Naruto stops at itachi if he's serious if hes fighting the same way he fought sasuke then naruto goes on to B.

Scenario 2: Sasuke stops at pain. Naruto probably at mei.

 

[sayian]

Scenario 1:Sasuke stops at 3rd raikage. Naruto stops at itachi if he's serious if hes fighting the same way he fought sasuke then naruto goes on to B.

Scenario 2: Sasuke stops at pain. Naruto probably at mei.

Hm, forgot B had his full bijuu form. (i'll edit that) ignoring that, do you think naruto can outlast or beat danzo and Ay. especially since he can't last in sagemode for that long.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Hm, forgot B had his full bijuu form. (i'll edit that) ignoring that, do you think naruto can outlast or beat danzo and Ay. especially since he can't last in sagemode for that long.

Without intel he cant beat danzo.
He cant even react to ay. Point blank. Period

the only reason even got past those 2 is because susanno defense is too stronk

 

[KidGamer65]

-Naruto destroys Deidara.
-Naruto destroys Mei.
-If Itachi is fighting to kill then he beats Naruto easily. If Itachi isn't fighting to kill and wants to die then the outcome is obvious.
-V1 B gets stomped by War SM Naruto.
-Ay beats him. From the distance Sasuke fought him at Naruto can't react well enough to guard against his attacks.
-Danzo loses. Naruto has the firepower to kill him, the sensing to dodge his surprise attacks and the stamina to easily outlast him.
-Naruto beats Kakashi comfortably.

That's for scenario 1. In scenario 2 Naruto makes it to Itachi and dies.

-Sasuke beats Orochimaru easily. Amaterasu and Kagutsuchi are enough to destroy the version of Oro that fought KN4.
-Sasuke stomps Kakuzu low diff.
-Sasuke beats Pain mid-high diff at worst. Deva being gimped leaves the other 5 Pains with a surefire counter to Sasuke's Susanoo Arrows, Enton and Amaterasu. They can't dodge Arrows or Amaterasu and only Preta can absorb them. Amaterasu is also faster than any attack they possess so killing off the important paths first won't be hard.
-Sasuke beats the 3rd Raikage. Enton/Amaterasu sets him ablaze. It won't kill him instantly but he's not fighting with it engulfing his body.
-Sasuke beats Mu comfortably.
-Itachi beats Sasuke. That restriction doesn't matter when Sasuke can't destroy his Susanoo in the first place.
-Nagato stomps Sasuke.

That's also for scenario 1. In scenario 2 Sasuke easily destroys Oro and Kakuzu, beats Pain, beats the 3rd Raikage, then beats Mu. He stops at Itachi. The first 2 fights barely require MS usage. Gimped Orochimaru was already defeated by a weaker Sasuke, and Kagutsuchi is enough to permanently kill him nor does it cost too much chakra to use in comparison to Susanoo or Amaterasu. He doesn't need MS techs to defeat Kakuzu, but even if he did, Enton Kagutsuchi is enough. That's not a lot of power used up. Pain is where he'll have to bust out the MS, but since his techs are fast and lethal he should be able to clean up without exhausting himself. Same goes w/ Ay III. Amaterasu won't instantly kill him, but it puts him down and allows Genjutsu to finish it up.

Mu is where things get tricky due to his invisibility. Kirin can nuke the field though. Sasuke would likely exhaust himself creating enough flame to create a large enough Kirin in combination with the chakra he spends on the previous fights.

 

[sayian]

-Naruto destroys Deidara.
-Naruto destroys Mei.
-If Itachi is fighting to kill then he beats Naruto easily. If Itachi isn't fighting to kill and wants to die then the outcome is obvious.
-V1 B gets stomped by War SM Naruto.
-Ay beats him. From the distance Sasuke fought him at Naruto can't react well enough to guard against his attacks.
-Danzo loses. Naruto has the firepower to kill him, the sensing to dodge his surprise attacks and the stamina to easily outlast him.
-Naruto beats Kakashi comfortably.

That's for scenario 1. In scenario 2 Naruto makes it to Itachi and dies.

-Sasuke beats Orochimaru easily. Amaterasu and Kagutsuchi are enough to destroy the version of Oro that fought KN4.
-Sasuke stomps Kakuzu low diff.
-Sasuke beats Pain mid-high diff at worst. Deva being gimped leaves the other 5 Pains with a surefire counter to Sasuke's Susanoo Arrows, Enton and Amaterasu. They can't dodge Arrows or Amaterasu and only Preta can absorb them. Amaterasu is also faster than any attack they possess so killing off the important paths first won't be hard.
-Sasuke beats the 3rd Raikage. Enton/Amaterasu sets him ablaze. It won't kill him instantly but he's not fighting with it engulfing his body.
-Sasuke beats Mu comfortably.
-Itachi beats Sasuke. That restriction doesn't matter when Sasuke can't destroy his Susanoo in the first place.
-Nagato stomps Sasuke.

That's also for scenario 1. In scenario 2 Sasuke easily destroys Oro and Kakuzu, beats Pain, beats the 3rd Raikage, then beats Mu. He stops at Itachi. The first 2 fights barely require MS usage. Gimped Orochimaru was already defeated by a weaker Sasuke, and Kagutsuchi is enough to permanently kill him nor does it cost too much chakra to use in comparison to Susanoo or Amaterasu. He doesn't need MS techs to defeat Kakuzu, but even if he did, Enton Kagutsuchi is enough. That's not a lot of power used up. Pain is where he'll have to bust out the MS, but since his techs are fast and lethal he should be able to clean up without exhausting himself. Same goes w/ Ay III. Amaterasu won't instantly kill him, but it puts him down and allows Genjutsu to finish it up.

Mu is where things get tricky due to his invisibility. Kirin can nuke the field though. Sasuke would likely exhaust himself creating enough flame to create a large enough Kirin in combination with the chakra he spends on the previous fights.

Epic post. question thou, what prevents naruto from getting kamui sniped? I know someone said in another thread that kamui has a cap speed limit that comparable to amaterasu but what gives naruto the edge to counter it? if it's size issue, then would war arc- kakashi be better option? scratch that. would that same kakashi w/ kyuubi boost have a better chance of defeating sm naruto?

 

[KidGamer65]

Epic post. question thou, what prevents naruto from getting kamui sniped? I know someone said in another thread that kamui has a cap speed limit that comparable to amaterasu but what gives naruto the edge to counter it? if it's size issue, then would war arc- kakashi w/ kyuubi boost have a better chance of defeating naruto? (gedo mazo feat)

Sensing+Shadow Clone(s) is what counters Kamui. War Arc Kakashi w/ a kyuubi boost would win easily because he can teleport along w/ his other abilities being boosted.