Gai's evening elephant = a barking dog that never bites??

[minamoto]

as much as its impossible to imagine Gai sensei survive death after opening the 8th gates, as its impossible to imagine Madara die or get extremly wounded by gai maito's kinjutsu...so despite Madara being my favorite character, if Gai sensei tachnique doesn't kill or defeat Madara...i will be fvucking pisssed.. why?...becuz so far,after opening the 8th gate...all i see is Gai sensei hurting himself..and screaming...whereas Madara's recation was just something like "is that all what you got son?".....

 

[November]

if Gai sensei tachnique doesn't kill or defeat Madara...i will be fvucking pisssed.

what manga are you reading, dude? gai shippuden?

 

[Ver55e]

I know right . I mean if naruto and sasuke enter battle . What will gai be doing . I don't want him to die

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

it'd be stupid if Gai wins.
All the build up to becoming a juubi jin just to get killed by a side character? Dont be stupid man

 

[Wparker6804]

Gai's a badass who is beating Madara down and giving others a better chance--a fighting chance--after he dies. But he won't deliver the killing blow.

 

[kageking]

I don't follow you here...

 

[Naruto.]

Gai's Eighth Gate is OP as ****, but don't forget, Madara has the frickin' Juubi inside him.
I would call bullshit if Gai defeated him. Plus it serves no purpose of Naruto and Sasuke getting power ups.
And, Gai is sacrificing himself to save time and prevent his comrades from getting annihilated by Madara.
It's pretty impressive that he has made Madara bleed.

 

[YellowFang]

Gai is never supposed to defeat Madara... Still look at what Gai did to a Juubi host...
And still more's to come...

 

[Maryeuh]

I love Gai.

Why do they always kill off the awesome characters...

 

[Byron123]

That's not true, Madara is a masochist, a normal person would scream in pain but he actually enjoys feeling it.

 

[Xlad]

If anything, Gai's attack would not defeat him, let alone kill his ass. But I think that the attack will have a major long-term effect on Madara. Think of it like a poison. That's pretty much my take.

 

[minamoto]

That's not true, Madara is a masochist, a normal person would scream in pain but he actually enjoys feeling it.

.....Madara is a realls shinobi and true philosopher, that your small brain can't comprehend him

 

[minamoto]

I don't follow you here...

though i was clear

 

[Byron123]

.....Madara is a realls shinobi and true philosopher, that your small brain can't comprehend him

Lol you're a complete idiot for thinking that somehow Madara put his body in Obito and that exact same body is inside now of Spiral Zetsu. I can't wait to see his face so I can laugh at your stupidity.

Back to the point, because your comment was completely off, it's true that Madara is a masochist and that derives from his love for battles. Even when he wasn't a jin after his revival he was enjoying at the fullest the pain he was feeling.

 

[Champ]

If Guy technique was going to kill Madara then Sasuke and Naruto would never receive a power up from Rikudo

 

[minamoto]

Lol you're a complete idiot for thinking that somehow Madara put his body in Obito and that exact same body is inside now of Spiral Zetsu. I can't wait to see his face so I can laugh at your stupidity.

Back to the point, because your comment was completely off, it's true that Madara is a masochist and that derives from his love for battles. Even when he wasn't a jin after his revival he was enjoying at the fullest the pain he was feeling.

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here's my youtube channel where i proved that tobi is the 2nd madara controling obito(+spiral zetsu).....obito was being controlled UNTILL spiral zetsu+ the man inside him (who is 2nd madara) emerged when naruto unsealed the bijuus from obito...I AM THE BEST IN THE BASE I RULE THIS KINGDOM..I AM THE SMARTEST...I GOT SHARINGAN AND RINNEGAN...AND I CAN SEE CLEARLY THROUGH KISHIMOTO'S ILLUSION...AND YOU HAVE MY PROMISE THAT i'LL BE LAUTGHING AT UR STUPIDY WHEN TOBIDARA FINALLY EMERGE...ME FTMFW !!

 

[Byron123]

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here's my youtube channel where i proved that tobi is the 2nd madara controling obito(+spiral zetsu).....obito was being controlled UNTILL spiral zetsu+ the man inside him (who is 2nd madara) emerged when naruto unsealed the bijuus from obito...I AM THE BEST IN THE BASE I RULE THIS KINGDOM..I AM THE SMARTEST...I GOT SHARINGAN AND RINNEGAN...AND I CAN SEE CLEARLY THROUGH KISHIMOTO'S ILLUSION...AND YOU HAVE MY PROMISE THAT i'LL BE LAUTGHING AT UR STUPIDY WHEN TOBIDARA FINALLY EMERGE...ME FTMFW !!

Lol you proved, you proved my ass! I have given you many counter-arguments in your theories here which you weren't even capable of comprehending them and you couldn't even give a sufficient answer and if you think that you're correct then do this: Copy paste the whole dialogues we had in your threads and post them in a new one and let the NB to be the final judge.

Also, you're completely mentally ill and if other people can't see that by this specific post then so they are. You have even learned your stupid quotes by heart and you use them all the time.

 

[minamoto]

if you think that you're correct then do this: Copy paste the whole dialogues we had in your threads and post them in a new one and let the NB to be the final judge.

make a thread and defy me...but dont post things i didn't say..cuz it would be so unfair

 

[Byron123]

if you think that you're correct then do this: Copy paste the whole dialogues we had in your threads and post them in a new one and let the NB to be the final judge.

make a thread and defy me...but dont post things i didn't say..cuz it would be so unfair

Haha this is hillarious, you are the one who tries to disprove something that was proven 80 chapters ago, I won't fall at your level to prove something that has already been proven, and what exactly did I say that you haven't?

As a matter of fact I will do it in this exact thread to save your from the trouble:

I WILL GO STRAIGHT TO THE POINT !!!!!!!

if you wanna know the truth of any Mystery , you have to activate your sharingan and Rinnegan....and decipher naruto Manga .....in our case , i mean we naruto readers, our Rinnegan is obtained through good observation and deep analazing of the manga....then one will be able to SEE THROUGH KISHIMOTO'S AND MADARA'S ILLUSION...and find out the the truth of the reall badass Masked man who's Glory was stolen by Obito.....hence what you thought was truth called "tobi is obito" will become a mere illusion Becuz the reall masked man was non then Uchiha Madara !!!!!


1- Pllzz dont focus on obito but just focus on old Madara...
when Madara combined both of indra's and ashura's powers that allowed him to activate Rinnegan, but unfortunately this happned when Madara's lifespan was almost over...and becuz Madara was old and weakned he just wanted to get out of the cave and implement his MEP by himself...so when Madara found obito...Madara's Golden opportunity has finally arrived to get out of the cave, its called "Obito Uchiha".....then Madara started doing his Masterevil preparations ...

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-Madara's pereparations that involves obito have 2 main goals :

A) setting the plan of Rin's death and making obito Madara's pawn
B) sealing the other part of Madara within obito and obtaining immortality.

-Madara in fact didn't die and lied to obito...becuz in truth old Madara sealed his empty shell within obito's body and controlled him ......so yes we have 2 Madaras runing around now rikudo Madara and Tobimadara....Tobimadara is the one who is inside spiral zetsu using hashirama's budha summoning


-Madara's preparation :

Notice obito's arm and how it contains humain flesh despite obito's right side body being fully made up of senju DNA...also notice how kishi drawed it in full color becuz he wanted to attract our attention to that portion of flesh in obito's arm...

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that portion of flesh is our 2nd madara , the empty shell of madara or simply Madara...its the imortal Madara...

-Now notice how edomadara was clearly talking with another personality that was controlling obito's body when obito's arm autohealed

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also did you notice obito's face and reaction when madara asked him why juubi wasnt complete??...obito seems like he doesnt know what madara is talking about....

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Now notice how the portion of humain flesh disappeared from obito's right side after Naruto extracted the bijuus from obito..

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ahha !!!...thats becuz the 2nd madara (who was inside spiral zetsu) emerged from obito's body !!!...

-now notice how white zetsu was talking about "THE INSIDES" being well ...why??..becuz the insides were clearly inside obito's body since the death of Rin...

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-tobi vs konan chapters very important chapters wich tell us the reall identity of Tobi...but becuz tobi was revealed to be obito it will be very hard to belive what the masked man said to konan...but WHY WOULD TOBI LIE TO KONAN WHEN HE WAS SURE OF HER DEATH????

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notice how tobi not only told konan his true identity but he also GETS PROUD OF HIMSELF TO BE MADARA !!..its the same pride and arrogance weve seen in rikudo madara, edomadara and even kid madara!!!!!

-madara tells konan since you are about to die i will tell you some top secret info about me :

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-Tobi vs Minato...obito infiltrated konoha with his free will but then tobimadara took full controll of his body and CONTROLLED KURAMA WITH HIS SHARINGAN....only madara could controll kurama with his sharingan but not obito..

-the one who minato defeated was madara...but a madara without his reall vessel...thats why tobimadara congratulated minato for defeating him ,simply becuz minato defeated the legendary shinobi madara

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the reason why the unmasked obito look lesss badass then the masked man tobi is becuz madara was the badass tobi..

-kisame and itachi weren't fooled they indeed spoke with madara...what kisame saw was in fact a tobimadara face evolution becuz when madara's cells surface on obito's body tobi takes the form of madara...and kisame died like a hero protecting madara's secrets, he can't die like a fool being fooled by obito....kisame can't die for some1 who tool the talk no jutsu from obito..

-i believe in itachi...

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-TobiMadara pulled out a black rode becus he knew he was using it to controll obito..if obito knew he had black rode inside him , he wouldve known about the 2nd madara controlling him

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-notice how spiral zetsu is talking about obito despite him wearing obito himself !!..thats becuz spira zetsu was talking with tobimadara while obito was being fully controlled ....

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-notice how tobimadara was dizpointed becuz nagato shouldve' used rinnetensei to revive him(the other madara)..

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-also notice how tobimadara was talking to black zetsu...this proves that black zetsu is just madara's pawn will...however tobimadara is none then madara himself...

-the rinnegan madara is preparing now is probably tobimadara's eyes....the 2nd madara will show up in few next chapters...maybe after gai sensei's manages to wound rikudo Madara...when the tobimadara emerge,Madara will fool the allied shinobies and prove them that reality is indeed full of lies and that his MEP is worth impelementing...

-the mystery of tobi is like a genjutsu casted by kishi on us the readers...so i made this thread to tell poeple not to fall in kishimoto's illusion...

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-Madara told obito to act as madara so when obito pose as madara and try to fool others...obito will think he was fooling others into making them belive he was madara...but in truth it was indeed madara speaking through obito..in other words madara told obito to act as madara so obito wouldn't doubt he is being controlled by tobimadara...

-the goofy tobi was the spiral zetsu..

-during juubi's revival arc...tobimadara let obito act by his free will why?...becuz tobimadara is madara's ultimate secret...besides in order for edomadara to be rinnetenseid...obito must have his free will to target rinnetensei on madara..and since tobimadara is none then edomadara,one can't revive himself with rinnetensei..

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Instead of trying to prove you wrong because right now I'm just to lazy to read it all, (I feel ashamed for saying this), I'll rather pose you a question: assuming that Obito is somehow Madara, then why did Obito try to blackmail madara and didn't revive him immediately since supposedly he is him? Why did he become the Juubi jin while he could revive Madara the first time the latter tried to possess him. And please for the love of god don't you use as argument the word plot because in that way everything loses its importance.

Also, at the end you said that in order for someone to use rinnei tensei, he must do it on his own accord, find me one scan, one scan that proves that! Also, the way Madara actually got revived wasn't done forcefully? I'm not only referring to the second time when you hypothetically say that Obito was about to use it and Madara just changed his target but rather the very first time when even though he didn't succeed in it, he was about to get revived, something which is suggesting by the slow disappearance of his cracks as a sign of being edo. At that very first time wasn't Obito being forced? The only reason for which he didn't do it was because of Minato intervention, and therefore your argument is invalid. Rinnei tensei can be used forcefully.


And also, I still don't forget about how you manipulated facts in your last theory, about how Madara supposedly knew Guy from the past while his comment was supposed to show his lack of memory since he had fought against guy for a couple of hours before him becoming the Jin. Yet at that time you didn't say anything and tried to change subject. I read in one of your posts tat you're interested in hearing other opinions yet you don't have the courage to admit your mistakes.

Haha as I suspected you just can't give any answers so let me pose even more: why if what you say is correct, Madara had no clue about Obito's kamui mechanisms, and when he tried to attack him as the Juubi Jin he said "so that's your power"? According to you he should have known everything about him since he was controlling him the whole time.

-dude i think you didn't read the entire thread...so let me sum it up to you plz.....the old madara died...but befor he dies , he sealed his empty shell within obito..in other words madara didn't die...let me give you an exemple...the Gedo mazo is juubi , and the 9 bijuus all are also juubi....the gedo MAZO IS THE EMPTY SHELL OF JUUBI...so when the gedo mazo goes back to its formerself...it will become the REVIVED JUUBI...madara may have used the same thecnique...now..the old madara died...but the 2nd madara or simply madara is still alive sealed within obito controling him...tobimadara has knowledge of whats going on now...but when edomadara was revived...he doesnt know shit...he doesnt even know naruto...tobimadara knows about kamuis better then rikudo madara becus he was using it when he was in obito's body...
rikudo madara now, will need the knowledge of his other part tobidara......tobi is obito+spiral zetsu+madara....the youth adult voice was obito, the funny goofy voice was spiral zetsu...and the badass old shrill voice was MADARA UCHIHA.....like how kishimoto showed us kabuto's foot but then worked hard not to make us belive that the mysterious man was in fact kabuto...he is doing the same thing with tobi's mystery....im not saying tobi isn't obito...its indeed obito...but if obito was being controlled by the 2nd madara that will be the biggest plotwist wich will make obito not dizerve the title of the badass tobi...and now tocie how kishimoto is trying to redeem obito...and when tobimadara emrge himself and declare that he was the reall tobi...obito's character will be redeemed...becuz the tobi who committed many evil incidents like uchiha massacre and mizukages manipulations was madara throught his controll on obito....and at the end...i told you i will be laughting at your stupidity...cuz now im confident that the 2nd madara will emerge...its just a matter of few chapters befor it gets revealed...i have rinnegan i can see clearly throgh kishimoto's illusion..and the more you call me stupid , the more you will look like stupid after tobimadara is revealed...unless you stop being rude then everyhting will be allright between us

And once again you try to change the subject instead of giving specific answers to specific questions so let me pose my qeustions once again:

1)Where the hell has it been stated that rinnei tensei can only be worked only if the user uses it on his own free will?
2)The first time Madara tried to revive himself, he clearly forced Obito into doing it and that can be seen by how his cracks were slowly disappearing, thus your whole point about free will is invaild.
3)Based on the above I'll ask you once again: why Madara didn't force Obito into reviving him right from the beginning since as I proved there is no such thing as the condition of the free will, and according to you, since Obito is just Madara's puppet then it wouldn't be posssible to go against original's madara wishes.

At the end of the day, you try to prove wrong hard manga evidence and you're the one who has to give answers to questions that I, as a sceptic, pose. I don't care about you developing your ideas about matters I don't care, that's just a clever way of yours to hide your incapacity to answer with good reasoning to the questions I pose you and because of that you try to lure me into a different subject.

And in any case most of what you said is just your own interpretation without necessarily any reasoning behind of it. For instance right from the beggining you suggest that madara sealed his shell inside of Obito? When was that stated? You throw something as a fact while it needs to be proven. And as a matter of fact let us make it a little more tasty. You used the term shell and used as example the Juubi. Indeed, the 9 beasts are what is inside of Mazo while mazo is indeed the body. However, when madara died, his dead body was left at that throne he had and at that time his body was able-bodied. Therefore when you use the term shell, what do you mean, that he just chopped his hand and stuck it into Obito's arm?

Let me make this clean, others might have believed your theory but I don't care about getting answers in generalities. You compared madara to Juubi and his body to its something that doesn't make sense based on what I said above. Either you give me specific responses or don't hope that you'll just lure me into believing you.

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and even if this piece of evicdence didn't exist ...if Madara could use rinnetensei on himself he wouldve done that long time ago...

-also it bothers me how you treat some theoritic parts of my thread as true facts lol and just lol....

-you counterarguments are so weak.....also you need to calm down homie...when tobimadara emerge he will explain us why he let obito act by his free will...he will also explain us what old madara did exactly to obito's body...becuz what you forgot is that what wev'e seen was just obito's flashbacks or just the truth and how obito viewed it...obito had troubles of self identity..and bad memories due of the boulder that crushed his head..madara took advantage of this and controlled obito and told him to pose as madara...so it would be difficult for obito to reconize that he was being controlled by Madara......

- you and that uchiha smarter and few others are just victim of kishimoto's illsuion where as me my reaction is just like madara when he shruged with indiferences during juubito scene...so untill im able to give a fvck i will just sit down and laught at ur stupidity befor the tobidara gets revealed...

Lol for real that's your sole counter-argument and you say that my counter-arguments are weak? Excume but the panel you provided only proves that you don't even understand what you read. What you put in yellow only proves that one has to sacrifice his life to use rinnei tensei but where in hell does it prove that you need to use it intenionally, on your free will? This only proves that you use scans which you don't even understand what they're saying or at the very least you're hallucinating.

Also, Obito had a problem with his memory only the very first seconds after he was crushed, that's not called bad memory, it's just the shock that comes after such an experience while you awake in an unknown for you place.


Last but not least, no I don't take some of your theoritic parts and treat them as true facts; it's the other way around. You say something without any argument to back them up and try to pass them as facts in order to fit your theory. I, on the contrary empathise on the fact that these theoritic parts do need an explanation from your part and force you to support them somehow in order to see how well you can and to further see if they have any basis behind. The scan you provived to answer supposedly to what I said about rinnei tensei being capable of being used without being done by someone's free will only proves your weakness since that scan says specific things and you undertstand completely others and thus jumped into conclusions. Besides, I can't stand generalities in theories by guys who try helplessly to prove their opinions while they don't even have the necessary arguments to back them up. A prime example of that is the so called shell of yours. On the one hand you sugggest that this whole process is about somehow Madara putting his spirit in Obito and then on another instance you use that exact argument to suggest that the difference in his arm was because of that shell? So what exactly is that for you? Madara is at the same inside of Obito as a spirit yet somehow is part of his physical body as well?

-Dude ...what kestions do you want me to answer you just sum them up..dont write me wall of text plz

You really considered that a wall text while your own theory was way bigger O_O? Ok let's make it short, the panel you provided by no means proves that in order to use rinnei tensei you have to do it your own free will, it only proves that once you use it, you die. Therefeore what you say in your theory as a conlusion is invalid about the reasoing behind Madara's choice not to force Obito into reviving him. For that reason I'll ask again, since something like has no basis, why didn't Madara forced Obito from the beginning since according to you he could control him?

I would like to also add another question: we know for a fact that only zetsu alone can move through the ground, correct? If supposedly Spiral Zetsu was indeed inside of Obito, then how the next second he could appear by using another person as his vessel who must be Yamato? To do that he would have to travel the normal methods since Yamato is another living being and it's simply impossible to think that he could do it in such a short time while that fight in fact had already begun at alliance's side and it's simply impossible to think that in that short amount Spiral just took control of a fodder guy off panel.

-ok i already explained this in my thread but nvm....listen..according to naruto manga in order for one to be rinnetenseid, another rinnegan user must throw away his life to revive that dead....this is why madara gave his precious eyes (rinnegan) to nagato , so that nagato revives madara properly....ok now listen well....old madara died..but his other part tobidara was inside obito controlling him....so when tobi implanted the rinnegan into his eye...the masked man will throw way his life on edomadara to revive him..and becuz tobimadara is none then madara, tobimadara can't revive his other part (edomadara with rinnetensei)...so tobidara was clever and let obito act by his free will, so that edomadara use the chakra rodes and force obito revive him with rinnetensei no jutsu...this process wont happen untill obito gets exausted wich would make it easy for madara to controll obito...ALSO...if tobimadara took full controll over obito's body from the begining, everyone would find out madara's ultimate secret...and madara's secret to make obito revive him with rinnetensei will fail....

-the man inside spiral zetsu is tobidara ...tobi is madara +obito+spiral zetsu but the dominant tobi is madara..ITS NOT YAMATO WHO IS INSIDE SPIRAL ZETSU...now im pretty sure you didn't read my entire thread wich dosnt give you the right to counterargument me !!

Lol so wait, you're saying that the man who is fighting right now against the alliance inside of spiral zetsu is Obito or madara, the ones who are some kilometres away?

And as for the post above you, what I'm trying to prove is that your logic has flaws and here's why. While you suggest that all this time Madara was dead, he could supposedly control him because of the part of his soul that he put inside of him, now you say that if he was to try to take full control over Obito's body in order to force him into reviving him, the latter would resist while according to you, a tobimadara or whatever you call it was the dominant power inside of him the whole time. Don't you see the contradiction in what you're saying. Also, I know exactly how rinnei tensei works, the difference is that you also added a condtion which has derived from your interpratetion, the one I proved invalid to my previous big reply, that rinnei tensei can only only be by one's free will, something which is completely fallacious.

Another thing, you say that madara's plan to revive himself would fail yet you don't give any reason at all for that, it's just a baseless conclusion of yours. Since madara, according to you could control Obito all this time, then with same ease he should have been able to force him into reviving him while there was no danger for him yet, for instance let's say even before alliance's arrival, right when the Juubi was first revived.

- dude pllzz read the god damn thread!!!..i said spiral zetsu along the man inside him (2nd madara) emerged from obito's body after naruto extracted the bijuus from obitos body...now they finally got separated from obitos body

I completely understood your thread and don't need of a second read. You on the other hand if you were reading my posts carefully and trying to be more into subject instead of answering to what you think I said you would have avoid a lot of tiime instead of giving me inaccurate or competely off subject answers. I lost interest in your thread, you want to believe that you're right and that your theory will come into fruition? So be it, it's really hard trying to explain things over and over again just because someone can't understand you, it's not worth my time nor my patience. But other times, don't ask for others' opinions, to do that you have to have the capacity to see things from their side and this a quality that you greatly lack since most of the time you couldn't even follow the flow of my questions and were only answering to some of them and that only because I was practically forcing you by being repetitive.

 

[minamoto]

Lol you proved, you proved my ass! I have given you many counter-arguments in your theories here which you weren't even capable of comprehending them and you couldn't even give a sufficient answer and if you think that you're correct then do this: Copy paste the whole dialogues we had in your threads and post them in a new one and let the NB to be the final judge.

Also, you're completely mentally ill and if other people can't see that by this specific post then so they are. You have even learned your stupid quotes by heart and you use them all the time.

i didn't like the way you posted me this whole conv history between us..this is just immature from you...and it ruined my thread...i would never do the same to your thread and ruin it..you desrespected me here....I SAID MAKE YOUR OWN THREAD..i didnt say post me this immature shit...
you dont even read what i say....Madara will show you the true strenght of fooling the readers..i got madara's eyes thats why i can comprehend kishi's manga, as for you you will be ingnored for enernity