Gai vs Orochimaru

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Location: Forest
Intel: Full
Conditions: This is Orochimaru without a Zetsu body.
Restrictions: ET, 8th Gate
Distance: 80 meters
 

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Guy rag dolls him in the 7th gate and then kills him with hirudora
 

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I don't think Gai has a counter for Manda so he loses.
 

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Orochimaru low/mid diffs.
 

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Orochimaru gets tossed around like a doll with his inferior speed compared to Gai
I'm not sure f Gai can kill the cockroach though
 

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Gai stomps this version of Orochimaru


- Manda gets one shotted with Hirudora.

- Asakujaku kills Oro's snakes.

- Gai proceeds to blitz Orochimaru and end him with Hirudora.
 

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Don't see how Hirudora is killing Yamata no Orochi.
 

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Don't see how Hirudora is killing Yamata no Orochi.
you mean the same thing that was getting wrecked by susanoo,
susanoo can also withstand alot more energy than its output,
and hirudora busted susanooo,

which means that hydra is non factor and blown through like a balloon
 

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^ Just how it obliterated Susanoo.


This guy just never quits huh?

Gai never starts off with Gates.He eventually dies in CQC via sneak attacks with his poisonous hidden snakes.

Hirudora couldn't even dismember Kisame's body - it's not doing shit to Orochimaru who survived tanking direct Kyuubiruto hit and getting pushed hundreds of meters through the whole forest. Rashoumon Gates tank it as well.

Gai himself stated that Hachimon . Considering that his fight with Kisame lasted for like 1 minute - he isn't doing shit to Oro, who can easily outlast him with Leech All Creation and Violet Flames Formation.
 

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Gai never starts off with Gates.He eventually dies in CQC via sneak attacks with his poisonous hidden snakes.
Doesn't mean that he won't use them, so no, Orochimaru isn't killing him before they attack. If he feels he's at a disadvantage, he opens the Gates and starts to stomp him in CQC.

Hirudora couldn't even dismember Kisame's body - it's not doing shit to Orochimaru who survived tanking direct Kyuubiruto hit and getting pushed hundreds of meters through the whole forest. Rashoumon Gates tank it as well.

Hirudora, without having to go through any kind of attack first, blew open Madara's V3 Susanoo and briefly incapacitated him. Rashomon isn't doing jack shit, and Orochimaru isn't tanking it. Lol @ taking KN4's attacks being any kind of feat. Susanoo's durability>>>>Rashomon and Orochimaru.

Rashomon isn't even happening, not when Gai can blitz the shit out of this clown and release Hirudora point blank.

Gai himself stated that Hachimon seriously exausts him. Considering that his fight with Kisame lasted for like 1 minute - he isn't doing shit to Oro, who can easily outlast him with Leech All Creation and Violet Flames Formation

Gai one shots with Hirudora, there will be no drawn out fight. Orochimaru using the Sound 4's barrier is pure fanfic, and "Leech All Creation", another jutsu you love to wank, fuses him with the ground, so if the ground is hit, he's hit too. Not to mention he has to come up at some time, if he doesn't, Gai doesn't need to be using the Gates.
 

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Normally, I'd say Guy, because when it comes to speed and power, Guy's obviously superior, and he'd mess up Orochimaru to an incredible degree, but I think the real stinker is Orochimaru's immortality. He'll probably regenerate. The only way to permanently take down Orochimaru is something that kills all his cells like FRS, obliterate him completely, or seal him after being injured. Guy has none of these unless people want to argue that Hriudora could completely destroy Orochimaru.
 

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Gai blitzes and kicks the shit out of Orochimaru until he can't regenerate anymore. And for people saying that Gai would be troubled by Manda... he was fighting ****ing Bijuu. One of his kicks made the ****ing Gedo Mazo scream in pain and lose his balance, remember that the Gedo could tank Giant Butterfly Mode Choji's hits like nothing. Let alone Asa Kujaku or Hiru Tora. Gai would eat Manda for breakfast.
 

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Doesn't mean that he won't use them, so no, Orochimaru isn't killing him before they attack. If he feels he's at a disadvantage, he opens the Gates and starts to stomp him in CQC.

If he goes Gates in the beginning - we're skipping this point. But it doesn't change the fact he's vulnerable to random snakes biting and poisoning him - especially that they have minds on their own.

Hirudora, without having to go through any kind of attack first, blew open Madara's V3 Susanoo and briefly incapacitated him. Rashomon isn't doing jack shit, and Orochimaru isn't tanking it. Lol @ taking KN4's attacks being any kind of feat. Susanoo's durability>>>>Rashomon and Orochimaru.

Show me the panel where Madara's Susano'o is shown destroyed by Hirudora. All you have are pure assumptions. Mei's Water Dragon could push Madara back as well, but did little to no damage. Hirudora couldn't even damage Kisame properly, meaning it can't do shit to Orochimaru, whos human shell doesn't care about physical wounds.

Hirudora isn't going past Triple Rashoumon and especially past the Third Gate, which specializes in dispersing the pressure.

Rashomon isn't even happening, not when Gai can blitz the shit out of this clown and release Hirudora point blank.

Once Gai opens the 7th Gate, Orochimaru begins to stall him with Leech All Creation.

Gai one shots with Hirudora, there will be no drawn out fight. Orochimaru using the Sound 4's barrier is pure fanfic, and "Leech All Creation", another jutsu you love to wank, fuses him with the ground, so if the ground is hit, he's hit too. Not to mention he has to come up at some time, if he doesn't, Gai doesn't need to be using the Gates.

Orochimaru taught Sound 4 the barrier jutsu so they could become useful during his assault on the 3rd Hokage. The same way he taught Sakon and Ukon Rashoumon. There's nothing fanfic here, unless you're implying 4 random ninja magically happened to know the same barrier jutsu.

Leech All Creation is not only merging with the ground, but also a movement tool. Also, Gai with literally no sensory techniques won't be able to tell where Orochimaru is and using a blind Hirudora is a death sentence for him, seeing how he's pretty much unable to fight after less than 1 minute of Hachimon.

Gai blitzes and kicks the shit out of Orochimaru until he can't regenerate anymore. And for people saying that Gai would be troubled by Manda... he was fighting ****ing Bijuu. One of his kicks made the ****ing Gedo Mazo scream in pain and lose his balance, remember that the Gedo could tank Giant Butterfly Mode Choji's hits like nothing. Let alone Asa Kujaku or Hiru Tora. Gai would eat Manda for breakfast.

That's even better. Gai uses Hirudora on Manda and then he becomes useless seeing how 1x Hirudora + 30 seconds of using Hachimon exhausted him pretty badly.
 

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Sigh, even though I think Orochimaru might take this via immortality, I have to address the lack of reason being used here.

If he goes Gates in the beginning - we're skipping this point. But it doesn't change the fact he's vulnerable to random snakes biting and poisoning him - especially that they have minds on their own.


Assuming he decides to hold back against one of the most infamous ninjas of all times that scared his rival?
Show me the panel where Madara's Susano'o is shown destroyed by Hirudora. All you have are pure assumptions. Mei's Water Dragon could push Madara back as well, but did little to no damage. Hirudora couldn't even damage Kisame properly, meaning it can't do shit to Orochimaru, whos human shell doesn't care about physical wounds.

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Are you implying Madara let go of Bee on a whim?


Hirudora clashed against super shark bomb jutsu before it hit Kisame. It was clearly reduced.

Hirudora isn't going past Triple Rashoumon and especially past the Third Gate, which specializes in dispersing the pressure.


Once Gai opens the 7th Gate, Orochimaru begins to stall him with Leech All Creation.


Right, Guy's fast enough to put juubi jin Madara on the ropes with 7G, but he can't blitz a vastly slower opponent before he can sink into the ground. Sounds legit.

Orochimaru taught Sound 4 the barrier jutsu so they could become useful during his assault on the 3rd Hokage. The same way he taught Sakon and Ukon Rashoumon. There's nothing fanfic here, unless you're implying 4 random ninja magically happened to know the same barrier jutsu.

There's a difference between knowing how to do something, and doing it. Anyone with a brain knows that you need 4 ninja to use that barrier, and guess what? Orochimaru's one ninja.

Leech All Creation is not only merging with the ground, but also a movement tool. Also, Gai with literally no sensory techniques won't be able to tell where Orochimaru is and using a blind Hirudora is a death sentence for him, seeing how he's pretty much unable to fight after less than 1 minute of Hachimon.


See previous counters.
 

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you mean the same thing that was getting wrecked by susanoo,
susanoo can also withstand alot more energy than its output,
and hirudora busted susanooo,

which means that hydra is non factor and blown through like a balloon
Oh yeah, Hydra was defeated by a Susano'o that had an impentrable shield and was locked away by a sword that seals anything is pierces. Don't make it look that weak.
 

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If he goes Gates in the beginning - we're skipping this point. But it doesn't change the fact he's vulnerable to random snakes biting and poisoning him - especially that they have minds on their own.

Not really. Having minds of their own doesn't mean he'll get caught by them, not to mention he can smack them away with his Soshuuga.



Show me the panel where Madara's Susano'o is shown destroyed by Hirudora. All you have are pure assumptions. Mei's Water Dragon could push Madara back as well, but did little to no damage. Hirudora couldn't even damage Kisame properly, meaning it can't do shit to Orochimaru, whos human shell doesn't care about physical wounds.
-Susanoo was hit.

-Mokuton binding was broken.

Unless you can give me a reason not to believe that Susanoo wasn't destroyed, there is nothing more to say here. Susanoo was destroyed, that simple. Did Mei's Suiton push Madara back, break his hold over Mokuton, and then left him out of action for a whole chapter? Oh yeah, didn't think so.

Hirudora was underwater, and went through GSB first, and Gai said he wasn't going to kill him, add that to the fact it destroyed Susanoo, and I have no reason to believe that

Hirudora isn't going past Triple Rashoumon and especially past the Third Gate, which specializes in dispersing the pressure.
Susanoo>>>>>Rashomon. So no, it'll plow right through it.

Once Gai opens the 7th Gate, Orochimaru begins to stall him with Leech All Creation.
Then he goes out of it, and Orochimaru either hides the rest of the match, or comes out and gets raped. Not like he'll be able to sink into the ground before Gai blitzes, and begins to ragdoll him.

Orochimaru taught Sound 4 the barrier jutsu so they could become useful during his assault on the 3rd Hokage. The same way he taught Sakon and Ukon Rashoumon. There's nothing fanfic here, unless you're implying 4 random ninja magically happened to know the same barrier jutsu.
Proof? Orochimaru being their master doesn't mean that he taught them every single jutsu they know, nor does it mean that he can use every jutsu they know. Not to mention the barrier requires 4 people. Orochimaru isn't 4 people, he's 1.

Leech All Creation is not only merging with the ground, but also a movement tool. Also, Gai with literally no sensory techniques won't be able to tell where Orochimaru is and using a blind Hirudora is a death sentence for him, seeing how he's pretty much unable to fight after less than 1 minute of Hachimon.
Already countered. Orochimaru isn't fast enough to react to 7G Gai let alone evade him using Leech All Creation. He gets blitzed, smacked around like a bitch, and then gets one shotted by Hirudora.
 

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Orochimaru takes this. :| Gai doesn't have anything to hurt Orochimaru with, and Orochimaru has more chakra compared to how fast Gai's gates side effects come.
 
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