Gai vs Bee

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Location: Pain vs SM Naruto
Restriction: Gai can't use the 8th Gates, Bee can go up to v2
Intel: Full for both
Intent: To murder the other

I say Gai bodies him.
 
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Gai is faster, a lot faster, with 6th and 7th Gate, and has better reflexes and battle sense. By portrayal also he is clearly stronger than Bee, but I don't see how Asa Kujaku or even Hiru Tora could damage the V2 shroud, if it can tank Kakashi's Raikiri without being pierced at all...
 

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Gai is faster, a lot faster, with 6th and 7th Gate, and has better reflexes and battle sense. By portrayal also he is clearly stronger than Bee, but I don't see how Asa Kujaku or even Hiru Tora could damage the V2 shroud, if it can tank Kakashi's Raikiri without being pierced at all...
Asakujaku should kill Bee. Nothing suggest he's durable enough. If it doesn't, then hirudora does
 

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Asakujaku should kill Bee. Nothing suggest he's durable enough. If it doesn't, then hirudora does
But the V2 shroud wasn't pierced by Kakashi's Raikiri (that we know what piercing and cutting power has) and it also tanked some Gated kicks and punches from Gai. I don't really think that Asa Kujaku would overcome it, I don't think neither Hiru Tora could... but I firmly believe that Gai is stronger and the better ninja compared to Bee, even accounting Hachibi full form. Actually I think that Gai could defeat the full form easier than the v2...
 

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Hirudora is but a shockwave. We have seen the size of Hachibi's , it not only disperses Hirudora but also ends the fight. TBB ends, outlasting Gai while in gates ends. Hachibi has many ways to end, whereas Gai has none. v2 tailed beats controlled by an external source were faster and stronger than KCM Naruto, who was as fast as Ay in v2 (dodging doesn't mean being faster). Hachibi is leagues beyond any of those tailed beasts, going into his 7 tailed mode, in addition to being a perfect jin in control of his abilities and choices put him on a completely different level than the other v2 biju's who were already outdoing KCM Naruto. v2 Bee is in fact faster than 7th Gate Gai, or for argument prevention, on par with him. This would still mean he can easily dodge the Morning peacock and potentially launch a counter attack.
 

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But the V2 shroud wasn't pierced by Kakashi's Raikiri (that we know what piercing and cutting power has) and it also tanked some Gated kicks and punches from Gai. I don't really think that Asa Kujaku would overcome it, I don't think neither Hiru Tora could... but I firmly believe that Gai is stronger and the better ninja compared to Bee, even accounting Hachibi full form. Actually I think that Gai could defeat the full form easier than the v2...
True. Asakujaku burns though. I say Gai defeats V2 with the 7G and Hirudora is stronger than Asakujaku. Gai is much faster than Bee with the 7G so I don't see Bee reacting to Gai in V2
 

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Bee wins. 6gated Gai already failed to damage V2 Jinchurikis and fell short of their tails, even his hirudora couldn't kill Kisame and their shroud are more durable that that. The second the drawbacks of 7gate appears, Bee would lariat him to death
 

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Hirudora is but a shockwave. We have seen the size of Hachibi's , it not only disperses Hirudora but also ends the fight. TBB ends, outlasting Gai while in gates ends. Hachibi has many ways to end, whereas Gai has none. v2 tailed beats controlled by an external source were faster and stronger than KCM Naruto, who was as fast as Ay in v2 (dodging doesn't mean being faster). Hachibi is leagues beyond any of those tailed beasts, going into his 7 tailed mode, in addition to being a perfect jin in control of his abilities and choices put him on a completely different level than the other v2 biju's who were already outdoing KCM Naruto. v2 Bee is in fact faster than 7th Gate Gai, or for argument prevention, on par with him. This would still mean he can easily dodge the Morning peacock and potentially launch a counter attack.
Hiru Tora stomped Madara's 3rd stage Susanoo, keep on mind that it needed two full power hits from Tsunade and one from supercharged Ei to destroy only the 1st stage. Hiru Tora also can cover km with his AoE; it is a lot more powerful and faster than the Hachibi Bijuu Hachimaki.

Gai, together with Kakashi, was kicking these V2's asses with a big disadvantage in numbers. And there's no proof at all to say that Bee/Hachibi are stronger than these Bijuu, especially when they were getting stomped by them; also it is clearly said that the Bijuu's strength is not depending by the number of tails. All the Bijuu are pretty much equals bar Kyuubi who is far stronger than everyone else.

Gated Gai is far faster than V2 Bee. Bee is equal to the other jinchuriki V2 that Gai, together with Kakashi, was counterblitzing and kicking all around. I won't even mention how 7th Gate Gai was so fast to pressure Juubi jinchuriki Madara with his speed, the same that foddered Minato's Hiraishin attack with absolute ease.
 

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Hiru Tora stomped Madara's 3rd stage Susanoo, keep on mind that it needed two full power hits from Tsunade and one from supercharged Ei to destroy only the 1st stage. Hiru Tora also can cover km with his AoE; it is a lot more powerful and faster than the Hachibi Bijuu Hachimaki.

Gai, together with Kakashi, was kicking these V2's asses with a big disadvantage in numbers. And there's no proof at all to say that Bee/Hachibi are stronger than these Bijuu, especially when they were getting stomped by them; also it is clearly said that the Bijuu's strength is not depending by the number of tails. All the Bijuu are pretty much equals bar Kyuubi who is far stronger than everyone else.

Gated Gai is far faster than V2 Bee. Bee is equal to the other jinchuriki V2 that Gai, together with Kakashi, was counterblitzing and kicking all around. I won't even mention how 7th Gate Gai was so fast to pressure Juubi jinchuriki Madara with his speed, the same that foddered Minato's Hiraishin attack with absolute ease.
Did it really? Last I checked it simply moved it and no implications were made of its destruction. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Don't care for the rest, v2 has shown outstanding durability, hell even v1 has shown insane durability. Don't know what you're on about dood.

Where they really? I don't recall considerin 2 pages in and they were fully transformed (and Kakashi doing all the work). Lawl at your next comment, one of the main reasons I am not taking you seriously. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Pretty sure the rest is a no no, ignorance is bliss.

Please show me the counter blitzing, I don't recall such happening. Anyways, v2 Bee is faster given his feats, in addition to in control of his movements which would allow him to react and focus better. Your claims are ridiculous. UMMM... LOOOL. Atleast I confirmed you were trolling along.
 

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Hirudora is but a shockwave. We have seen the size of Hachibi's , it not only disperses Hirudora but also ends the fight.
Bee can only go up to V2
TBB ends, outlasting Gai while in gates ends. Hachibi has many ways to end, whereas Gai has none.
Using TBB in V2 form requires some time from what we've seen. Pain was able to use bansho tenin while sent flying to attack before TBB could be used. Gai would use Hirudora before that.

v2 tailed beats controlled by an external source were faster and stronger than KCM Naruto, who was as fast as Ay in v2 (dodging doesn't mean being faster). Hachibi is leagues beyond any of those tailed beasts, going into his 7 tailed mode, in addition to being a perfect jin in control of his abilities and choices put him on a completely different level than the other v2 biju's who were already outdoing KCM Naruto.
This is wrong
-You forgot those V2 beasts had the sharingan which the 8 tails noted to be the reason they were faster .
- Did you forget 6G Gai was keeping up with those beasts as well
-Lol No, Madara couldn't strike 7G Gai like he did to Minato in SM which even reacted to Ay. Basically this is my point, Minato attacked first but Madara struck him down first. So Madara's striking and reacting speed are superior to Minato's. However, Gai struck first and Madara couldn't strike like he did to Minato. So Gai's striking speed is faster but Madara could react to him. Not to mention the fact that he couldn't hit Gai but kept evading making it look like Gai was quick to react before he could be hit like Minato was.
Now, Ay charged at Minato with full speed and attacked first but Minato was able to react and strike before Ay could only that Ay was saved. So KCM Naruto being as fast doesn't really mean anything here.
I hope you get what I'm saying?

v2 Bee is in fact faster than 7th Gate Gai, or for argument prevention, on par with him. This would still mean he can easily dodge the Morning peacock and potentially launch a counter attack.
No. Kisame reacted to V2 Bee but lariat was too strong and pushed him back. Kisame couldn't react to 6G Gai at all. I don't know about V2's reaction speed but it's not on Gai's level tbh.
 

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Bee mid difficulty at very most. Gai entering 6th gate will not help much, considering the speed, raw power and overall abilities are much lower to that of Jinchuuriki. Asaku Jaku was tanked without receiving damage from the Jinchuuriki. The implication applies for Bee as well. If Gai decides to enter 7th gate, his limit is around 5 minutes approx. Killer Bee can blind him via ink mist:

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He can create ink clones and have them transform into V2 as well [ ]. He is capable of using TBB on the same level as 4th tailed and 6th tailed Kyuubi did [ ] [ ]. All of Gai's attacks are rendered useless, since Hachibi's Chakra can heal Bee's damages.
 
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