Gai Kakashi Minato

[Haizaki]

I made this thread in order to address the fact that people are using a collaboration between this 3 to judge who is faster
The fact that Minato appeared in front of Gai makes him faster?..come on that's not a good way to judge..don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Gai's is faster but I'm saying you can't judge from a collaboration that's all.
We've seen Madara reacted fast enough to stop kakashi from using kamui but yet still had real difficulties reacting to Gai
As a Jin, Gai's the only one referred to as being fast by Madara..Madara easily reacted to Minato..If anything, that's even a better way to judge

Look at Kakashi for example he was moving at the same speed as 6th gate Gai

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but does that make them equal in terms of speed?...clearly 6th gate Gai is faster but he was moving at the same speed because they were clearly going on the offense together

I don't want to jump in saying Gai is faster but all I'm saying is you can't use a collaboration between this 3 to judge

 

[The Necromancer]

Speed is too inconsistent to judge at this point.

 

[ShiroT]

actually we can. If you take momentum into account and how fast 8 gates guy is it is easy to conclude that if something can pop up infront of you and pop away withou you colliding with it(as guy is extremely fast and wouldve done so if minato wasnt faster) then the thing that popped in front of you had to be faster then you

 

[The Necromancer]

actually we can. If you take momentum into account and how fast 8 gates guy is it is easy to conclude that if something can pop up infront of you and pop away withou you colliding with it(as guy is extremely fast and wouldve done so if minato wasnt faster) then the thing that popped in front of you had to be faster then you

So Minato is faster than Gai but Gai is faster than Juubidara who is faster than Minato. Makes sense.

 

[ShiroT]

So Minato is faster than Gai but Gai is faster than Juubidara who is faster than Minato. Makes sense.

no minato is the fastest, what madara reacted to was minato's base striking speed not ftg as he teleported infront of madara(so the teleport is over all thats left is to strike). Madara ran from a rush

 

[The Necromancer]

no minato is the fastest, what madara reacted to was minato's base striking speed not ftg as he teleported infront of madara(so the teleport is over all thats left is to strike). Madara ran from a rush so minato fastest

But in order to use FTG in that time, Minato's reflexes had to be faster than Gai's movement speed, which was shown to be greater than Madara's reaction time which was far better than Sage Mode Minato's reaction time.

 

[Koha]

The Minato overestimation is real... 8th Gates Guy is far faster... Madara could easily react to Minato's speed, but is completely stuck on the defensive to Guy's. To even believe Minato is faster anymore is just pure denial.


8th Gate has the power to surpass ALL of the Kage including Minato. Speed, power, and dexterity.

 

[Haizaki]

actually we can. If you take momentum into account and how fast 8 gates guy is it is easy to conclude that if something can pop up infront of you and pop away withou you colliding with it(as guy is extremely fast and wouldve done so if minato wasnt faster) then the thing that popped in front of you had to be faster then you

Collaboration..if minato was faster..why did he get smacked away like that...

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Gai's hands shows his already set for to punch when he wasn't really close to Madara..that signifies he knows what's going on
Lee even threw the kunai...when something is thrown which much force and strength, it moves faster

 

[Haizaki]

Not ftg?..minato clearly threw his kunai..and he was even in SM

 

[ShiroT]

Collaboration..if minato was faster..why did he get smacked away like that...

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Gai's hands shows his already set for to punch when he wasn't really close to Madara..that signifies he knows what's going on
Lee even threw the kunai...when something is thrown which much force and strength, it moves faster

minato didnt get smacked in that scan idk what your talking about and what does guy showing his fist say anything? and did you even read my comment? after looking at the scan you can SEE how close minato was to guy and he got hit and ftg'd away while guy had only moved a few inches thats what im talking about ftg vs guys speed

 

[ShiroT]

The Minato overestimation is real... 8th Gates Guy is far faster... Madara could easily react to Minato's speed, but is completely stuck on the defensive to Guy's. To even believe Minato is faster anymore is just pure denial.


8th Gate has the power to surpass ALL of the Kage including Minato. Speed, power, and dexterity.

guy isnt faster then ftg . . .madara reacted to minato's speed not ftg itself did you see it when he countered it? he teleported in front of him giving someone on madara's level plenty of time to react. Yes guy is faster then minato's running and striking speed but he is not faster then ftg, minato > guy

 

[ShiroT]

But in order to use FTG in that time, Minato's reflexes had to be faster than Gai's movement speed, which was shown to be greater than Madara's reaction time which was far better than Sage Mode Minato's reaction time.

no, minato ftg which was faster then gai's speed(yes you need great reaction time for that), which overwhelmed madara he reacted to everything he just couldnt counter it, and yes madara was faster then minato's striking speed not ftg itself

 

[Bogard]

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[Haizaki]

minato didnt get smacked in that scan idk what your talking about and what does guy showing his fist say anything? and did you even read my comment? after looking at the scan you can SEE how close minato was to guy and he got hit and ftg'd away while guy had only moved a few inches thats what im talking about ftg vs guys speed

who threw the kunai?

 

[Haizaki]

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Lol bogard I don't get

 

[ShiroT]

who threw the kunai?

lee whats your point

 

[Haizaki]

lee whats your point

gated lee threw the kunai..the force and power in which he threw it should also be considered

 

[ShiroT]

gated lee threw the kunai..the force and power in which he threw it should also be considered

.. . . .. .honestly did you read anything i said. Im not talking about how fast the kunai got to guy im talking about the teleporting that took place infront of guy, if you go reread the chapter you will see that guy barely got in further after minato teleported infront of him and teleported away showing ftg was faster :vincent:

 

[ShiroT]

gated lee threw the kunai..the force and power in which he threw it should also be considered

think about this. theres 2 cars, one is at the beginning of 1st street and the 2nd at the beginning of 2nd street. 2nd street intersects 1st street making a +. If car one flys down 1st street at 80mph and after getting to the end of the 1st block car 2(which hadnt started driving yet) passed the first car showing that the 2nd car had to be going over 80mph proving the car 2 > car 1

if car 1 was faster, after car 2 stepped infront of it car 1 would have crashed into it if car 2 was not fast enough

 

[Haizaki]

think about this. theres 2 cars, one is at the beginning of 1st street and the 2nd at the beginning of 2nd street. 2nd street intersects 1st street making a +. If car one flys down 1st street at 80mph and after getting to the end of the 1st block car 2(which hadnt started driving yet) passed the first car showing that the 2nd car had to be going over 80mph proving the car 2 > car 1

if car 1 was faster, after car 2 stepped infront of it car 1 would have crashed into it if car 2 was not fast enough

All I'm saying is Minato in SM with FTG got reacted to easily by Madara...but what about Gai

Plus the car example can't really be used considering Minato teleports