Gai 7th gate > Ay

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saying stuff as facts without justification is pure opinionated bias.

Bias: prejudice in favor of or against one thing, person, or group compared with another, usually in a way considered to be unfair.

Considering that this is Madara, i highly doubt i have any bias in this argument.

Justification = kept up with the shodaime in taijutsu/ Has EMS/ Expert in Kenjutsu

Blah this is boring, go ahead and try to defend gai with his speed and kicks and claim that he has a "style" to him or w.e
 

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Ay sucks , overrated piece of shit .

Might Gai > Ay .
 

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I say the comment is correct but how long can gai stay with that gate open he might get a shot or two in before he uses a huge amount of chakra to maybe make a hit or too. Ay is always 100% of the time Kage level. It's like saying shikamaru is greater than Hidan because he outsmarted him. Hidan took down a tailed beast by himself. Correlation is not causality, everybody dies eventually, except Hidan that douche is still complaining somewhere
 

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Kisame tanking Hirudora is a feat for him, it doesn't mean Hirudora's weak. He's very durable, being able to survive a Lariat from V2 Bee, and still having the strength to talk [ ][ ], doing this all with crushed ribs. Dude was not only able to bring himself back to consciousness from being blasted by Hirudora and 7G Gai's punch, which easily drew a massive amount of blood [ ], but he was also able to overcome Yamato's chakra-surpressing Mokuton [ ] after biting his own tongue off [ ]. And you're telling me he's shown no durability feats? Please. While Bee had to go V2 against Kisame, he overcame V2 Ay with his Lariat in base [ ][ ], and it hurt him too, signified by him saying 'Ugh...' and having his V2 shroud instantly deactivated.

Quick note - it wasn't Gai's aim to kill Kisame with Hirudora, meaning he used a weaker version of it. Ay's still falling to Hirudora, and his durability feats aren't good enough to even hint he can tank Hirudora.
 

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Kisame tanking Hirudora is a feat for him, it doesn't mean Hirudora's weak. He's very durable, being able to survive a Lariat from V2 Bee, and still having the strength to talk [ ][ ], doing this all with crushed ribs. Dude was not only able to bring himself back to consciousness from being blasted by Hirudora and 7G Gai's punch, which easily drew a massive amount of blood [ ], but he was also able to overcome Yamato's chakra-surpressing Mokuton [ ] after biting his own tongue off [ ]. And you're telling me he's shown no durability feats? Please. While Bee had to go V2 against Kisame, he overcame V2 Ay with his Lariat in base [ ][ ], and it hurt him too, signified by him saying 'Ugh...' and having his V2 shroud instantly deactivated.

Quick note - it wasn't Gai's aim to kill Kisame with Hirudora, meaning he used a weaker version of it. Ay's still falling to Hirudora, and his durability feats aren't good enough to even hint he can tank Hirudora.
Raikage > Kisame when it comes to durability.
 

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Yeah, no, not seeing feats. Going off his father's hype isn't legit.

casually doing something which Tsunade needed the Yin seal for ( the teleportation technique) is a big time feat.
 

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casually doing something which Tsunade needed the Yin seal for ( the teleportation technique) is a big time feat.
She came out with minor flesh wounds. The only reason she healed herself was because she needed to be fully healed to go up against Madara.
 

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Show me that same Susanoo appearing again after that blast.

Doesnt mean it broke, lol.

Using what happened off panel to support your clam makes it baseless.
 

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She came out with minor flesh wounds. The only reason she healed herself was because she needed to be fully healed to go up against Madara.
That ain't minor bro lol.

And you are forgetting all this happened, while she was a Senju + Uzumaki mix. Though i think the word durability is wrong to use for Kisame and AY, they simply have tougher bodies.

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Fail, show me susanoo breaking.

mokuton lost its grip after Hirudora hit:

dunno if it completely destroyed susanoo, but effected its user.
 

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So Kisame has more durability than V3 Susano'o? LMFAO
 

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Gai can keep up with Madara.

Madara fodderized FTG Sage Minato.

Normal FTG Minato fodderized Ay.

7th gate Gai is leaps and bounds faster and more capable in taijutsu than Ay.

This would be like a jounin vs a Kage.
 

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mokuton lost its grip after Hirudora hit:

dunno if it completely destroyed susanoo, but effected its user.

Yes I agree that madara loosened his grip, could be because he got caught off guard, but there's still no proof that susanoo actually broke.

He was on the ground with pieces paper flying a bit, this implies his susanoo got destroyed

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Not only is there no paper flying around but there are no cracks even on madara.

The only thing in that circle is debris, madara is showing zero indication of any damage.
 
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