Gaara VS Minato

[Oblivionx]

Minato should win.. he's on a different tier than gaara... summons can use oil i.e sand's weakness and minato should be hypothetically be able to mark sand and sand containing gaara's chakra could be one hit kill here...

 

[ARGUS]

Whats this BS of Minato being able to teleport right towards Gaara, just by taggin the surrounding sand, ??
first of all Minato needs the chakra link inorder to teleport WITH the target, however he still needs a marking in-order to teleport to the assigned location,

minato teleporting right towards gaara without any marking whatsoever, is not happening,

 

[Apêx1]

Whats this BS of Minato being able to teleport right towards Gaara, just by taggin the surrounding sand, ??
first of all Minato needs the chakra link inorder to teleport WITH the target, however he still needs a marking in-order to teleport to the assigned location,

minato teleporting right towards gaara without any marking whatsoever, is not happening,

I'm still laughing at the fact he thinks that's possible. Why would Minato need closely placed Kunai's if, in the case of what they say is true, he could put one kunai in the ocean and become the strongest Suiton fighter in the world since he just teleports masses of water atop his marked opponents.

 

[Benjamin King]

Who said he needs FTG to blitz him? His Shunshin is enough. [

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[Apêx1]

Who said he needs FTG to blitz him? His Shunshin is enough. [

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He won't cross 100 meters with his shunshin before Gaara can fly upwards. Either way, how are you attributing KCM Minato's shunshin to alive Minato? That's like saying Base Naruto is as fast as KCM Naruto, when KCM Naruto is as faster than Ay.

 

[ARGUS]

I'm still laughing at the fact he thinks that's possible. Why would Minato need closely placed Kunai's if, in the case of what they say is true, he could put one kunai in the ocean and become the strongest Suiton fighter in the world since he just teleports masses of water atop his marked opponents.

Lol the bold is sig worthy, but then again i wont be surprised if i see a minato fapboy say something like this,
Exactly, what people misunderstand from minatos statement, is that minato can teleport WITH them, but not TO them, his FTG still requires markings to teleport to the assigned location, and without them he is not teleporting anywhere

Who said he needs FTG to blitz him? His Shunshin is enough. [

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from 100m??? Lol no,
and that is KCM minato, KCM Minatos shunshin >>> Base Minatos, and he is superior to base minato in every single way, so that example is clearly not valid

 

[Benjamin King]

He won't cross 100 meters with his shunshin before Gaara can fly upwards. Either way, how are you attributing KCM Minato's shunshin to alive Minato? That's like saying Base Naruto is as fast as KCM Naruto, when KCM Naruto is as faster than Ay.

Or he can close in the distance to get enough to blitz him. He already showed to cross from Fire Country to Lightning Country, and that is what? 20/30? Keep it in mind he needed to prepare markings on the battlefield and before that. Base Minato had good Shunshin feats > [

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]. There is also another way of blitzing Gaara via FTG > [

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]. He can replace himself with a clone after the clone got in close-range with Gaara.

The point is, Gaara's sand has no possible way of keeping up with Minato.

 

[Apêx1]

Or he can close in the distance to get enough to blitz him. He already showed to cross from Fire Country to Lightning Country, and that is what? 20/30? Keep it in mind he needed to prepare markings on the battlefield and before that. Base Minato had good Shunshin feats > [

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]. There is also another way of blitzing Gaara via FTG > [

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]. He can replace himself with a clone after the clone got in close-range with Gaara.

The point is, Gaara's sand has no possible way of keeping up with Minato.

Which is why I said, Gaara goes airborne. All these points are moot because base Minato can't shunshin 100 meters faster than Gaara can simply go upwards on sand he's already stepping on due to desert location. Minato isn't taking out an FTG kunai, throwing it, and it reaching before Gaara is high up in the air. Gaara can also use his sand to block the kunai rather easily. Either way, Minato doesn't have the feats to travel 100 meters before Gaara can go airborne.

But he doesn't have to, he can win by remaining in one position in the air.

 

[Benjamin King]

Which is why I said, Gaara goes airborne. All these points are moot because base Minato can't shunshin 100 meters faster than Gaara can simply go upwards on sand he's already stepping on due to desert location. Minato isn't taking out an FTG kunai, throwing it, and it reaching before Gaara is high up in the air. Gaara can also use his sand to block the kunai rather easily. Either way, Minato doesn't have the feats to travel 100 meters before Gaara can go airborne.

But he doesn't have to, he can win by remaining in one position in the air.

Airborne? Gamabunta can jump high enough to reach him, and Minato can take it from there. [

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[Apêx1]

Airborne? Gamabunta can jump high enough to reach him, and Minato can take it from there. [

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But that's assuming Gaara doesn't crush Bunta from underground (he won't notice it happening either), since they're in the desert [

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]. Sand Drizzle is also active, so unless Bunta can exert oil from his own skin, he gets crushed with ease.

 

[Benjamin King]

But that's assuming Gaara doesn't crush Bunta from underground (he won't notice it happening either), since they're in the desert [

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] and then kill him [

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]. Sand Drizzle is also active, so unless Bunta can exert oil from his own skin, he gets crushed with ease.

Minato can notice it via Chakra Sensing (FT posted a scan), and warns Gamabunta to jump. Also, that is assuming Gaara gets enough time to wrap the whole sand around Gamabunta's incredible size before getting physically broken. And you can't use sand feats from Jinchuuriki Gaara, he had Shukaku's reserves. Without it, his sand range, power are limited.

 

[Apêx1]

Minato can notice it via Chakra Sensing (FT posted a scan), and warns Gamabunta to jump. Also, that is assuming Gaara gets enough time to wrap the whole sand around Gamabunta's incredible size before getting physically broken. And you can't use sand feats from Jinchuuriki Gaara, he had Shukaku's reserves. Without it, his sand range, power are limited.

Minato being able to sense doesn't mean he can warn Bunta, and then have Bunta jump all before Gaara's chakra simply needs to go upwards. Shukaku Gaara simply can access more chakra at once, it doesn't mean he can't use massive scales of sand since he showed an immensely large Sand Tsunami against the Edo Kage's. His sand range didn't change by Sand Tsunami standard. Not to mention, Gaara's sand is much faster than Bunta's jump, so he'll be crushed either way.

 

[Benjamin King]

Minato being able to sense doesn't mean he can warn Bunta, and then have Bunta jump all before Gaara's chakra simply needs to go upwards. Shukaku Gaara simply can access more chakra at once, it doesn't mean he can't use massive scales of sand since he showed an immensely large Sand Tsunami against the Edo Kage's. His sand range didn't change by Sand Tsunami standard. Not to mention, Gaara's sand is much faster than Bunta's jump, so he'll be crushed either way.

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feat in the war. It's not massive enough to wrap around Gamabunta. And also assuming Gaara's flight distance from the ground can still have enough range to manipulate it from the ground, which in here he lacks Shukaku to make it possible. The more sand he uses, the more Chakra he keeps overusing and resulting to his

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. Even if he wraps around Gamaubunta's legs, latter can cut them with his sword (which is possible as he cut off Shukaku's arm). Also, Gamaubunta isn't the only summoning he has, the other 2 can be brought out. Gaara's sand is faster than Bunta's jump? I'll need feats for that.

Off topic: I'm going to the gym, so I'll reply later.

 

[Apêx1]

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feat in the war. It's not massive enough to wrap around Gamabunta. And also assuming Gaara's flight distance from the ground can still have enough range to manipulate it from the ground, which in here he lacks Shukaku to make it possible. The more sand he uses, the more Chakra he keeps overusing and resulting to his

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. Even if he wraps around Gamaubunta's legs, latter can cut them with his sword (which is possible as he cut off Shukaku's arm). Also, Gamaubunta isn't the only summoning he has, the other 2 can be brought out. Gaara's sand is faster than Bunta's jump? I'll need feats for that.

Off topic: I'm going to the gym, so I'll reply later.

What? That's way larger than Gamabunta.. It doesn't have to be that high, 20 meters is more than enough. He's done a feat from underground that is far superior to the one I showed previously here [

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], as you and I both know, the meteor is extremely large, so being capable of covering a decent amount of its surface area with sand is highly impressive. Gaara has also shown to fly above Shukaku while using sand, so he definitely can fight while flying, no reason for him not to be able to. So because he fought the edo Kage's and is fighting Madara, he somehow has low chakra reserves? Please.. Bunta isn't cutting Sand if Gaara can withstand legged Susano slashes, not a chance, Bunta is far weaker than a Susano slash, hence Gaara stops the attacks. Only because he can destroy Shukaku's body doesn't mean he can destroy shukaku's defences, not a chance. More so, he only has one sword, and four limbs. So either Gaara restrains his sword hand and crushes all four limbs, or Bunta miraculously saves 1 limb, so now he has a left hand and left foot and no right hand no right food. Technically, he still lost because of the agony he'll be in and the opportunity for Gaara to crush him again. Minato cannot summon more than two summons, he doesn't have the chakra feats for such a thing. Hence, he's just wasted a large portion of his chakra summoning two summons which are virtually useless, since Gaara only needs to kill off Bunta, the other toads don't have oil like he does nor do they have his jumping feats. What? Don't pull a burden of proof fallacy, we all know Gaara's sand speed, you are the one who needs to give feats of Bunta's jumping speed (he has none).

Alright man.

 

[Benjamin King]

What? That's way larger than Gamabunta.. It doesn't have to be that high, 20 meters is more than enough. He's done a feat from underground that is far superior to the one I showed previously here [

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], as you and I both know, the meteor is extremely large, so being capable of covering a decent amount of its surface area with sand is highly impressive. Gaara has also shown to fly above Shukaku while using sand, so he definitely can fight while flying, no reason for him not to be able to. So because he fought the edo Kage's and is fighting Madara, he somehow has low chakra reserves? Please.. Bunta isn't cutting Sand if Gaara can withstand legged Susano slashes, not a chance, Bunta is far weaker than a Susano slash, hence Gaara stops the attacks. Only because he can destroy Shukaku's body doesn't mean he can destroy shukaku's defences, not a chance. More so, he only has one sword, and four limbs. So either Gaara restrains his sword hand and crushes all four limbs, or Bunta miraculously saves 1 limb, so now he has a left hand and left foot and no right hand no right food. Technically, he still lost because of the agony he'll be in and the opportunity for Gaara to crush him again. Minato cannot summon more than two summons, he doesn't have the chakra feats for such a thing. Hence, he's just wasted a large portion of his chakra summoning two summons which are virtually useless, since Gaara only needs to kill off Bunta, the other toads don't have oil like he does nor do they have his jumping feats. What? Don't pull a burden of proof fallacy, we all know Gaara's sand speed, you are the one who needs to give feats of Bunta's jumping speed (he has none).

Alright man.

It clearly not. That sand was barely bigger than those small rock cliffs, and Bunta is a Bijuu-sized. And also, he needed to prepare a lot of Chakra on that sand size, because they planned on taking the Edo Kages by a surprise attack. Even though, Mu sensed it and Minato is a sensor. It had no way of catching Bunta. He only held the bottom bit of the meteor, not the actual whole of it. And again, he needed to prepare his Chakra for that sand, and there is no preparation in here for 2 reasons: One, he's facing a giant opponent. Two, he's facing a teleportor and fastest Shinobi. Those slashes were used by clones, which are split of the user's power. His sand and Onoki's Golem got demolished in

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. Bijuu are far more durable than that. Lol, Minato's worthy Chakra levels are this:

-Teleported 100% Kurama's TBB. (They are the size of the Hokage's faces on mountains)
-Teleported 100% Kurama (which Bunta is only 1/4 of its size).
-Teleported Juubi's massive TBB. (Inb4 Edo Tensei gives unlimited Chakra - it doesn't)

He clearly has the reserves to summon 2 or 3 of them. Are you serious? The toads were fighting Pain's summons on air.[

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]. Gaara's sand which could not catch Mizukage's oil clone nor without prep is wrapping, catching the toads at all.

 

[DrProof]

About to get up in this ina bit.

 

[Rιver]

No, Minato's S/T barrier only warps what enters within it. If he's warping an attack from in front of him, he can't simultaneously warp an attack from behind him, that's not how it works. Same applies for attacks from beneath and above him.

This is laughable and you completely miscomprehended my points. I am saying if Minato were to put an FTG kunai on the ground, he can virtually travel anywhere in the world since its connected to bedrock which would be connected to rater fall places. That's like saying if Minato has a Kunai in the battlefield, he can teleport anywhere there with the floor being connected, but that's completely illogical since he throws about 23 kunai's per fight, all of which are close to each other. Hence, it is logical to assume that he can only teleport to the kunai's and not what they are linked to. I'm sure Minato would put so many Kunai's next to each other if he only needed one [

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What? The tag doesn't contain chakra, that was my point. If you are talking about the indirect link, my point still stands. Minato used Naruto's cloak as a medium to use Hirashin, Naruto's cloak is directly linked to everything with a cloak as I already proved in my initial post to you. Naruto controls it=Naruto is directly linked with it. The FTG kunai isn't directly linked with Minato, nor does it contain chakra to be capable of such, end of story.

Incorrect, if he starts the fight with Sand drizzle, Bunta's only thing to do in order to counter it is to jump away, however, I have already shown you the Gaara can create sand from beneath the ground, hence if he jumps away, the sand is still stuck to his ass and he gets crushed since it moves much faster than slowpoke Bunta.

That's only if it came from one direction. If it were to surround Minato or Bunta, either one would get warped away. Don't question the speed.

Cloak? Yes. But what about Tobirama? He didn't merge his chakra with Minato. He didn't tag the entire SA. All he did was use Minato's chakra as a medium. I never claimed tag is the medium. All I said that everything in contact with the sand is vulnerable, including the third party, Gaara. Why? Because you know why after 5 responses.

This is the same exact argument as "can Totsuka seal Earth" or "Can Sharingan genjutsu one if looked in the mirror". You're just neglecting that fact. At times manga follows logic, at times not. Saying "omg this makes him 2 op kaaant be truuu" is just ignorance at it's worst. The sand will prove to be a downfall to Gaara. Whether you accept that fact or not is up to you.

Pfft, my job is done then.

 

[UzumakiWade]

Gaara High-Extreme High diff only because its a desert.

Any other location besides desert and Minato takes it.

 

[Minator93]

Dafuq is this shit? It needed Juubi Jins to overcome Minato's speed and attack-reflexes!! Garra needs to become Juubi Jinchuriki if he wants to defeat Minato. Honestly never knew Minato was this much underrated.

OT: Minato negs. There's no way Garra is surviving Hiraishin Kunai spread + Hiraishin Level 2 spam. I mean Ei's max speed got shat on Neg diff. Garra moves at snail's speed compared to Ei. Heck Minato won't even need to go in himslef, his shadow clone will solo whilst he sips his Earl Grey in the Hokage Office U_U

 

[Minato namikaze123]

Dafuq is this shit? It needed Juubi Jins to overcome Minato's speed and attack-reflexes!! Garra needs to become Juubi Jinchuriki if he wants to defeat Minato. Honestly never knew Minato was this much underrated.

OT: Minato negs. There's no way Garra is surviving Hiraishin Kunai spread + Hiraishin Level 2 spam. I mean Ei's max speed got shat on Neg diff. Garra moves at snail's speed compared to Ei. Heck Minato won't even need to go in himslef, his shadow clone will solo whilst he sips his Earl Grey in the Hokage Office U_U

^^^ awesome one..